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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 18, 2018 22:50:46 GMT
Surely it's a piss take ad they were going in for Carroll! Carroll's injured (surprise, surprise) and out for a month. So out of the running.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 18, 2018 22:51:51 GMT
Chelsea want edin dzeko, it’s all over sky sports news
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 18, 2018 22:54:26 GMT
No I suspect you're right we wont spend £20m but if selling Crouch to them (or even loaning Crouch to them if thats really what they want) brings that down to £12.5m or £15m might we be tempted? I actually have no idea who we need up front as I don't see anybody affordable in the premier league but I just dont see us spending enough money to get what we need whether Uk based or not... which is the main reason I would think of letting Crouch go - either to reduce the price of a direct target or give extra funds to get someone else Again, you're probably right but it needs to be handled correctly and not just dismissed with a 'tough titty' to make sure... I think it'd be 20 with Crouch, didn't they pay 33m for him? The principle is the same if it makes it affordable or negotiable - or if it enables someone else currently out of reach to be bought...I'd love to see us spend £30m between now and the end of the month but if its Crouch plus £20m and it gets us what we need then so be it...I'd even be willing to sacrifice Jack if it allowed us to get what we need to stay up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 22:57:04 GMT
I think it'd be 20 with Crouch, didn't they pay 33m for him? The principle is the same if it makes it affordable or negotiable - or if it enables someone else currently out of reach to be bought...I'd love to see us spend £30m between now and the end of the month but if its Crouch plus £20m and it gets us what we need then so be it...I'd even be willing to sacrifice Jack if it allowed us to get what we need to stay up Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 18, 2018 22:59:55 GMT
The principle is the same if it makes it affordable or negotiable - or if it enables someone else currently out of reach to be bought...I'd love to see us spend £30m between now and the end of the month but if its Crouch plus £20m and it gets us what we need then so be it...I'd even be willing to sacrifice Jack if it allowed us to get what we need to stay up Nah Butland go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. If it meant we could stay up then for me anyone is expendable - only one thing matters right now and thats maintaining premier league status
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 18, 2018 23:01:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 23:01:52 GMT
Nah Butland go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. If it meant we could stay up then for me anyone is expendable - only one thing matters right now and thats maintaining premier league status The board need to get their bastard cheque book out. No one of use can be sold this window.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 18, 2018 23:06:15 GMT
If it meant we could stay up then for me anyone is expendable - only one thing matters right now and thats maintaining premier league status Mthe board need to get their bastard cheque book out. No one of use can be sold this window. I dont disagree but in the absence of them doing what I'm sure we all want then selling a 'star' to allow us to bring in what we need is an unpalatable but necessary sacrifice Personally I'd much rather we'd paid whatever it took to bring in Rafa and guaranteed him £50m for each of the next 2 windows - in the absence of that selling Crouch (not for £3m by the way) or sacrificing Jack to give Lambert what he needs to keep us up are crap but plausible alternatives
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 23:10:57 GMT
Mthe board need to get their bastard cheque book out. No one of use can be sold this window. I dont disagree but in the absence of them doing what I'm sure we all want then selling a 'star' to allow us to bring in what we need is an unpalatable but necessary sacrifice Personally I'd much rather we'd paid whatever it took to bring in Rafa and guaranteed him £50m for each of the next 2 windows - in the absence of that selling Crouch (not for £3m by the way) or sacrificing Jack to give Lambert what he needs to keep us up are crap but plausible alternatives They did that already at the start of the season and we're still not in a + net spend...... I honestly thought we'd spend what we got in + 20m in the summer. It was absolutely ridiculous that we didn't. There is absolutely no justification for another one to go.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 18, 2018 23:13:11 GMT
I dont disagree but in the absence of them doing what I'm sure we all want then selling a 'star' to allow us to bring in what we need is an unpalatable but necessary sacrifice Personally I'd much rather we'd paid whatever it took to bring in Rafa and guaranteed him £50m for each of the next 2 windows - in the absence of that selling Crouch (not for £3m by the way) or sacrificing Jack to give Lambert what he needs to keep us up are crap but plausible alternatives They did that already at the start of the season and we're still not in a + net spend...... I honestly thought we'd spend what we got in + 20m in the summer. It was absolutely ridiculous that we didn't. There is absolutely no justification for another one to go. Yes it is absolutely ridiculous that they didn't but they didn't and there is no sign they are about to spend big in this window without letting another one go the justification is staying up...whatever it takes...
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Post by jeycov on Jan 18, 2018 23:14:35 GMT
Ridiculous Crouch may be wondering whether he fits into Lamberts plans and like every player he is fighting for a place in the match day line up /squad He is a vital part of the dressing room Every chance that we won’t see too much of Jesé I expect Johnson will leave we need to retain everyone else until the summer We sold SJW for 3 million and that was a bargain Let’s sing his name as loud as ever on Saturday
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 18, 2018 23:16:11 GMT
The principle is the same if it makes it affordable or negotiable - or if it enables someone else currently out of reach to be bought...I'd love to see us spend £30m between now and the end of the month but if its Crouch plus £20m and it gets us what we need then so be it...I'd even be willing to sacrifice Jack if it allowed us to get what we need to stay up Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Would you take £30m and Mignolet in exchange? Would you take £40m and buy Hart for £10m? Very rough estimates I know!!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 18, 2018 23:17:41 GMT
Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Would you take £30m and Mignolet in exchange? Would you take £40m and buy Hart for £10m? Very rough estimates I know!! Yes if the money made was invested.
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2018 23:18:08 GMT
Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Would you take £30m and Mignolet in exchange? Would you take £40m and buy Hart for £10m? Very rough estimates I know!! Man City wouldn't be interested,sweeper keepers only there. Liverpool is the obvious one but they are linked with other keepers Not sure there is any strong interest in Butland right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 23:19:27 GMT
Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Would you take £30m and Mignolet in exchange? Would you take £40m and buy Hart for £10m? Very rough estimates I know!! I wouldn't want either of them tbh. Both calamities. Both would see us down.
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2018 23:20:47 GMT
Would you take £30m and Mignolet in exchange? Would you take £40m and buy Hart for £10m? Very rough estimates I know!! I wouldn't want either of them tbh. Both calamities. Both would see us down. We would do very well to get better.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 23:23:16 GMT
I wouldn't want either of them tbh. Both calamities. Both would see us down. We would do very well to get better. I really don't think we would. Both are utter shit goalies. Lee Grant is better than both. And I don't particularly rate him. I wouldn't wish Hart on the Vale. He shouldn't be getting a gig in the PL next season.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jan 18, 2018 23:28:16 GMT
The principle is the same if it makes it affordable or negotiable - or if it enables someone else currently out of reach to be bought...I'd love to see us spend £30m between now and the end of the month but if its Crouch plus £20m and it gets us what we need then so be it...I'd even be willing to sacrifice Jack if it allowed us to get what we need to stay up Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Player of the year last season not good enough ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 23:37:45 GMT
Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Player of the year last season not good enough ? No. Clearly.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 18, 2018 23:41:02 GMT
Nah Butland can't go this window. Unless we signed a new keeper for #1. That's just a ridiculous notion. He'd be so hard to replace and no Grant isn't good enough. Player of the year last season not good enough ? Unfortunately that says more about the season than it does about the player
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Post by RF10 on Jan 18, 2018 23:44:10 GMT
If we were to sell Butland in the summer I'd go after either Pope or Heaton from Burnley. Heaton has just returned back into training so should be interesting to see if gets game time based on Pope having good season.
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Post by ibby on Jan 18, 2018 23:45:47 GMT
BREAKING: Sky in Italy: Chelsea FC interested in signing striker Edin Dzeko from Roma.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 23:46:53 GMT
If we were to sell Butland in the summer I'd go after either Pope or Heaton from Burnley. Heaton has just returned back into training so should be interesting to see if gets game time based on Pope having good season. Angus Gunn from Man City would be perfect.....
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Post by discokaraoke on Jan 18, 2018 23:56:12 GMT
Player of the year last season not good enough ? Unfortunately that says more about the season than it does about the player No, the said player says more about our status this season.
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Post by stokesupporter on Jan 19, 2018 5:28:47 GMT
Who is behind this news? Are they trying to unsettle Crouch and us just before Huddersfield match?
If this news is genuine Lambert has a real enigma in his hands.
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Post by alster on Jan 19, 2018 6:40:56 GMT
Indeed. Time and time again he does absolutely fuck all when starting. Exactly why it’s best he goes to stop us constantly going back to something that just doesn’t work.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 19, 2018 6:41:32 GMT
What the hell's this all about? Mad.
I suppose if Abraham's got any sort of future there, Crouch would be on the bench for the rest of the season while TA's on loan, then be third choice next year. That's assuming they sell Batshuayi.
Can't see what the point is really. Crouch will get more football here than he would at Chelsea, and he's not up to that level anymore- as much as we all love him.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jan 19, 2018 6:57:21 GMT
Just talking about this on Talkshite.
Yes he'd be cheap for them and Crouchy might like the move but what's in it for us? We'd lose a proven option off the bench and wouldn't get much money in return. The only upside for the club might be lowering the wage bill, but that would only be of interest if we had an expensive replacement lined up.
Don't see it happening.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 19, 2018 7:08:47 GMT
If the new defence do their job Grant is good enough!
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Post by nott1 on Jan 19, 2018 7:10:26 GMT
Just talking about this on Talkshite. Yes he'd be cheap for them and Crouchy might like the move but what's in it for us? We'd lose a proven option off the bench and wouldn't get much money in return. The only upside for the club might be lowering the wage bill, but that would only be of interest if we had an expensive replacement lined up. Don't see it happening. They can have him in return for Zouma and a striker + Moses!
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