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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 13:31:08 GMT
I think that they basically dropped him and then pushed him forward shows the answer to that is probably not. Not really, it's in perspective, I'd expect a 'shit' left back to be playing way down the leagues, you tend to use 'shit' for anything/anybody that you don't think is at the top of the tree. He didn't make it as a left back though, indeed he was given a new position because he was shit at it in the league and they highlighted he was better used elsewhere.
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Post by dhes2113 on Jan 18, 2018 13:35:02 GMT
Just been announced - completed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 13:38:18 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 18, 2018 13:38:25 GMT
No mention of any option to buy, which isn't ideal
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Post by jonso on Jan 18, 2018 13:39:43 GMT
Stafy! Made for us.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Jan 18, 2018 13:39:46 GMT
Magic
Onto a defensive midfielder and striker now
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2018 13:40:56 GMT
'Chief Executive Tony Scholes said: “Having played in Germany himself, Paul Lambert is a keen observer of the Bundesliga and I know he has been impressed by what he has seen of Kostas in action for Augsburg.'
Accepting that on face value it's a Lambert signing.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 18, 2018 13:43:49 GMT
'Chief Executive Tony Scholes said: “Having played in Germany himself, Paul Lambert is a keen observer of the Bundesliga and I know he has been impressed by what he has seen of Kostas in action for Augsburg.' Accepting that on face value it's a Lambert signing. Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up.
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2018 13:48:59 GMT
'Chief Executive Tony Scholes said: “Having played in Germany himself, Paul Lambert is a keen observer of the Bundesliga and I know he has been impressed by what he has seen of Kostas in action for Augsburg.' Accepting that on face value it's a Lambert signing. Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up. So disingenuous from Scholes then. Given Lambert was at Augsberg & their manager is a mate of his he must have had some inside track on the player at some point But yeah Scholes spinning things appears more likely
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Post by bostonstokie on Jan 18, 2018 13:49:54 GMT
No mention of any option to buy, which isn't ideal Normally I'm with you there FM, but sitting in 18th, I don't find myself caring. First things first, let's bring in whoever for however long to stay up and then sort out next year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 13:55:57 GMT
'Chief Executive Tony Scholes said: “Having played in Germany himself, Paul Lambert is a keen observer of the Bundesliga and I know he has been impressed by what he has seen of Kostas in action for Augsburg.' Accepting that on face value it's a Lambert signing. Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up. He said he was aware of the player, didn't pay attention to any individual whilst he was out there, likes him but the club have been watching him for a while. I dare say that this is how a lot of clubs work these days FM - especially in these times of trigger happy chairmen. They tend to operate on a global philosophy and pick coaches, scouts players etc that fit that philosophy so that there is little turmoil when key people leave - just rinse and repeat with someone of a similar philosophy. As for recruitment i'd guess it goes a bit like this: 1. Manager picks positions he wants strengthening, which attributes he wants for each position. 2. Chief Pizza eater/Football Manager guru logs onto Pro-Zone or Wyscout and gets cracking with some metrics and finds a shortlist of players. 3. Passes list to Chief Scout who organises which local scouts watch which player (or the higher up you go he passes a smaller list onto the chief scout of the area said player plays in, who subsequently arranges the local scout) 4. Reports are amalgamated and assessed to narrow down the shortlist. 5. Chief Scout goes out to watch players from the smaller shortlist. 6. Final reports assessed and opinions put to the board/manager who then decides to either go with the scout report or go out and watch the player himself before giving the green light. 7. All details are passed to the senior management team to p*** about for 6 months monitoring the player before losing him to Southampton. I dare say there are lots of nuances depending on the situation and I dare say the process is massively ongoing with new players added to the list based on form / availability etc. but I dare say at a huge guess this is roughly what goes on. "Dare say" = "Clearly"
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 18, 2018 14:00:57 GMT
Welcome Stafy www.premierleague.com/news/5969843 signed and it's still only the 18th. The best January signing in recent years was Odemwingie on 28th (2014); would that we could make another successful signing like him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 18, 2018 14:03:10 GMT
Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up. He said he was aware of the player, didn't pay attention to any individual whilst he was out there, likes him but the club have been watching him for a while. I dare say that this is how a lot of clubs work these days FM - especially in these times of trigger happy chairmen. They tend to operate on a global philosophy and pick coaches, scouts players etc that fit that philosophy so that there is little turmoil when key people leave - just rinse and repeat with someone of a similar philosophy. As for recruitment i'd guess it goes a bit like this: 1. Manager picks positions he wants strengthening, which attributes he wants for each position. 2. Chief Pizza eater/Football Manager guru logs onto Pro-Zone or Wyscout and gets cracking with some metrics and finds a shortlist of players. 3. Passes list to Chief Scout who organises which local scouts watch which player (or the higher up you go he passes a smaller list onto the chief scout of the area said player plays in, who subsequently arranges the local scout) 4. Reports are amalgamated and assessed to narrow down the shortlist. 5. Chief Scout goes out to watch players from the smaller shortlist. 6. Final reports assessed and opinions put to the board/manager who then decides to either go with the scout report or go out and watch the player himself before giving the green light. 7. All details are passed to the senior management team to p*** about for 6 months monitoring the player before losing him to Southampton. I dare say there are lots of nuances depending on the situation and I dare say the process is massively ongoing with new players added to the list based on form / availability etc. but I dare say at a huge guess this is roughly what goes on. Yeah, sounds very much like the same Carto scouting shortlist has been passed on to Lambert for his final approval/selection, in the same way Hughes had the ultimate yay or nay. But definitely seems very much a Carto-driven club process, rather than the old days of the manager ringing around his contacts. Sounds like Lambo gave him the once over yesterday on wyscout or whatever and gave him the thumbs-up after he was maybe the one the club were leaning towards anyway? "The club have been following him for a little bit, and I've watched him myself and I thought "Yeah, he looks very good" The Staffy discussion's about 25 seconds in:
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 18, 2018 14:04:38 GMT
Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up. He said he was aware of the player, didn't pay attention to any individual whilst he was out there, likes him but the club have been watching him for a while. I dare say that this is how a lot of clubs work these days FM - especially in these times of trigger happy chairmen. They tend to operate on a global philosophy and pick coaches, scouts players etc that fit that philosophy so that there is little turmoil when key people leave - just rinse and repeat with someone of a similar philosophy. As for recruitment i'd guess it goes a bit like this: 1. Manager picks positions he wants strengthening, which attributes he wants for each position. 2. Chief Pizza eater/Football Manager guru logs onto Pro-Zone or Wyscout and gets cracking with some metrics and finds a shortlist of players. 3. Passes list to Chief Scout who organises which local scouts watch which player (or the higher up you go he passes a smaller list onto the chief scout of the area said player plays in, who subsequently arranges the local scout) 4. Reports are amalgamated and assessed to narrow down the shortlist. 5. Chief Scout goes out to watch players from the smaller shortlist. 6. Final reports assessed and opinions put to the board/manager who then decides to either go with the scout report or go out and watch the player himself before giving the green light. 7. All details are passed to the senior management team to p*** about for 6 months monitoring the player before losing him to Southampton. I dare say there are lots of nuances depending on the situation and I dare say the process is massively ongoing with new players added to the list based on form / availability etc. but I dare say at a huge guess this is roughly what goes on. There's a bit missing in that Pizza eater passes list to CEO who puts a red line through any that don't fall in line with budget. What's left (if any) go on to stage 3. Anyway, less of this: who is coming next Mr Guru
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 18, 2018 14:06:12 GMT
Option to buy?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 14:12:33 GMT
He said he was aware of the player, didn't pay attention to any individual whilst he was out there, likes him but the club have been watching him for a while. I dare say that this is how a lot of clubs work these days FM - especially in these times of trigger happy chairmen. They tend to operate on a global philosophy and pick coaches, scouts players etc that fit that philosophy so that there is little turmoil when key people leave - just rinse and repeat with someone of a similar philosophy. As for recruitment i'd guess it goes a bit like this: 1. Manager picks positions he wants strengthening, which attributes he wants for each position. 2. Chief Pizza eater/Football Manager guru logs onto Pro-Zone or Wyscout and gets cracking with some metrics and finds a shortlist of players. 3. Passes list to Chief Scout who organises which local scouts watch which player (or the higher up you go he passes a smaller list onto the chief scout of the area said player plays in, who subsequently arranges the local scout) 4. Reports are amalgamated and assessed to narrow down the shortlist. 5. Chief Scout goes out to watch players from the smaller shortlist. 6. Final reports assessed and opinions put to the board/manager who then decides to either go with the scout report or go out and watch the player himself before giving the green light. 7. All details are passed to the senior management team to p*** about for 6 months monitoring the player before losing him to Southampton. I dare say there are lots of nuances depending on the situation and I dare say the process is massively ongoing with new players added to the list based on form / availability etc. but I dare say at a huge guess this is roughly what goes on. Yeah, sounds very much like the same Carto scouting shortlist has been passed on to Lambert for his final approval/selection, in the same way Hughes had the ultimate yay or nay. But definitely seems very much a Carto-driven club process, rather than the old days of the manager ringing around his contacts. Sounds like Lambo gave him the once over yesterday on wyscout or whatever and gave him the thumbs-up after he was maybe the one the club were leaning towards anyway? "The club have been following him for a little bit, and I've watched him myself and I thought "Yeah, he looks very good" The Staffy discussion's about 25 seconds in: Yeah I'd say a bit of that has gone on. To be fair, we haven't got time to go out and scout his players have we? Two weeks of the window left dictates we are deep in Carto territory with the odd name flagged up by Lambert. The true test of this will be in the summer, when hopefully we are still in the league and Lambert can start to put his stamp down. The good news is it looks like Hughes knew the weaknesses and set the scouts off looking for attributes that were greatly needed, judging by Bauer the other night.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 18, 2018 14:14:38 GMT
Having watched the press conference, Lambert basically admits the idea to sign him wasn't his, although he clearly gave him the thumbs-up. He said he was aware of the player, didn't pay attention to any individual whilst he was out there, likes him but the club have been watching him for a while. I dare say that this is how a lot of clubs work these days FM - especially in these times of trigger happy chairmen. They tend to operate on a global philosophy and pick coaches, scouts players etc that fit that philosophy so that there is little turmoil when key people leave - just rinse and repeat with someone of a similar philosophy. As for recruitment i'd guess it goes a bit like this: 1. Manager picks positions he wants strengthening, which attributes he wants for each position. 2. Chief Pizza eater/Football Manager guru logs onto Pro-Zone or Wyscout and gets cracking with some metrics and finds a shortlist of players. 3. Passes list to Chief Scout who organises which local scouts watch which player (or the higher up you go he passes a smaller list onto the chief scout of the area said player plays in, who subsequently arranges the local scout) 4. Reports are amalgamated and assessed to narrow down the shortlist. 5. Chief Scout goes out to watch players from the smaller shortlist. 6. Final reports assessed and opinions put to the board/manager who then decides to either go with the scout report or go out and watch the player himself before giving the green light. 7. All details are passed to the senior management team to p*** about for 6 months monitoring the player before losing him to Southampton. I dare say there are lots of nuances depending on the situation and I dare say the process is massively ongoing with new players added to the list based on form / availability etc. but I dare say at a huge guess this is roughly what goes on. "Dare say" = "Clearly" Yep that's close to how things operate at most prem clubs. It only underlines how important the recruitment team is to the success of the club. Hughes has carried the can for our decline but there are a few others that are culpable but seem to have so far dodged the noose. My respect and liking of Lambert (at the moment it's pretty low) will increase if he tells Coates the recruitment team is not good enough and heads roll. In fact if the recruitment and scouting team doesn't radically improve we will continue to decline and relegation would be a question of when not if.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 18, 2018 14:15:00 GMT
I'm sure Lambert will have marked the transfer team's card with some fresh ideas and they will be busy making enquiries with the relevant clubs. Whether any will come to fruition is another matter.
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 18, 2018 14:15:21 GMT
Welcome Staffy.
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Post by Cartman on Jan 18, 2018 14:15:54 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2018 14:18:38 GMT
He's a no sock wanker.
Welcome aboard Mr Stafylidis.
I hope he's good, we certainly need it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 14:19:15 GMT
It’s great that Martin Paterson is back at the club visiting but where’s the new fella?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 14:20:16 GMT
Round peg, round hole - hallelujah.
If we bring a midfielder/striker in this window - I'll faint.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 18, 2018 14:25:59 GMT
Yeah, sounds very much like the same Carto scouting shortlist has been passed on to Lambert for his final approval/selection, in the same way Hughes had the ultimate yay or nay. But definitely seems very much a Carto-driven club process, rather than the old days of the manager ringing around his contacts. Sounds like Lambo gave him the once over yesterday on wyscout or whatever and gave him the thumbs-up after he was maybe the one the club were leaning towards anyway? "The club have been following him for a little bit, and I've watched him myself and I thought "Yeah, he looks very good" The Staffy discussion's about 25 seconds in: Yeah I'd say a bit of that has gone on. To be fair, we haven't got time to go out and scout his players have we? Two weeks of the window left dictates we are deep in Carto territory with the odd name flagged up by Lambert. The true test of this will be in the summer, when hopefully we are still in the league and Lambert can start to put his stamp down. The good news is it looks like Hughes knew the weaknesses and set the scouts off looking for attributes that were greatly needed, judging by Bauer the other night. From the OS“It is funny because I was actually in Augsburg not long ago with Steffan Reuter, who I played with at Dortmund, and he invited me along to watch training.
“I obviously saw him then and was impressed and as it happened he had been flagged up here at the Club too, so it all fell together perfectly.”
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 18, 2018 14:26:21 GMT
Welcome to Stoke.
2 new full backs in just over a week? 'kinell.
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Post by devondumpling on Jan 18, 2018 14:31:16 GMT
Yeah, sounds very much like the same Carto scouting shortlist has been passed on to Lambert for his final approval/selection, in the same way Hughes had the ultimate yay or nay. But definitely seems very much a Carto-driven club process, rather than the old days of the manager ringing around his contacts. Sounds like Lambo gave him the once over yesterday on wyscout or whatever and gave him the thumbs-up after he was maybe the one the club were leaning towards anyway? "The club have been following him for a little bit, and I've watched him myself and I thought "Yeah, he looks very good" The Staffy discussion's about 25 seconds in: Yeah I'd say a bit of that has gone on. To be fair, we haven't got time to go out and scout his players have we? Two weeks of the window left dictates we are deep in Carto territory with the odd name flagged up by Lambert. The true test of this will be in the summer, when hopefully we are still in the league and Lambert can start to put his stamp down. The good news is it looks like Hughes knew the weaknesses and set the scouts off looking for attributes that were greatly needed, judging by Bauer the other night. Hughes knew the weaknesses "only 6 months too late then, and why the hell did we not sign these guys/similar in the summer window. Flipping obvious we needed them".
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 18, 2018 14:34:04 GMT
Has anyone started to look beyond their blind optimism yet?
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 18, 2018 14:40:17 GMT
Has anyone started to look beyond their blind optimism yet? Not until 5pm on Saturday
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 14:41:11 GMT
Hughes knew the weaknesses "only 6 months too late then, and why the hell did we not sign these guys/similar in the summer window. Flipping obvious we needed them". Exactly my thoughts, we have gambled our status in the premier league by leaving it until now to address the weaknesses in the squad.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 18, 2018 14:42:31 GMT
Has anyone started to look beyond their blind optimism yet? Nah, he'll be better than Pieters easily
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