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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2018 20:02:39 GMT
Not in the 18 again tonight - think this is the 4th game in a row. The Alaves President has said it's for the best he comes back. He allegedly want to come back. But it doesn't seem like we want him, does it? Bit of a shame he's got to waste the next 6 months of his life. But maybe we don't want to go back to paying his full wage again if we don't think he's going to contribute? Hard to see him having any future here if we don't even want him back in these circumstances, with a new broom sweeping through the club and with him being totally unwanted at his loan club? What are we like for squad spaces? Maybe we're seeing what we can do in the market in the next week before we recall him? Adam, Charles Graham Afellay, Ibrahim Allen, Joseph Michael* Berahino, Saido* Butland, Jack* Cameron, Geoff Scott Choupo-Moting, Eric Maxim Crouch, Peter James* Diouf, Mame Biram Fletcher, Darren Barr* Grant, Lee Anderson* Haugaard, Jakob Ireland, Stephen James* Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper* Martins Indi, Rolando Maximiliano Pieters, Erik Rodriguez Ruiz, Jese Shaqiri, Xherdan Shawcross, Ryan James* Wimmer, Kevin Zouma, Kurt Happy +Stafylidis and Bauer. So that's 23 currently by the looks of it. Think Harrison would count as under-age for this season too. Hopefully Johnson is out before February comes (and maybe Jese too)?
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2018 20:03:37 GMT
Not in the 18 again tonight - think this is the 4th game in a row. The Alaves President has said it's for the best he comes back. He allegedly want to come back. But it doesn't seem like we want him, does it? Bit of a shame he's got to waste the next 6 months of his life. But maybe we don't want to go back to paying his full wage again if we don't think he's going to contribute? Hard to see him having any future here if we don't even want him back in these circumstances, with a new broom sweeping through the club and with him being totally unwanted at his loan club? He’s still ours for another three years so it makes no sense to leave him not playing any football He’ll return
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Post by mrred on Jan 24, 2018 20:03:58 GMT
How many chances does one guy need? He's already been at two clubs, either of which are better than Stoke, Ajax, Roma or Millen. He can't make an impact and none of the above wanted him. Cut the strings, admit defeat and invest in someone that isn't such a fucking snowflake and will make a positive impact on our club.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 24, 2018 20:05:11 GMT
We need eleven grafters out there
If We are going to bend the rules and say let shaq be a sort of number 10, who doesnt have to track back all the time
Then We have played all our cards
We cant say let bojan be number 10 Aswell, he doesnt have to track back either
Its the premier league, not lads and dads
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Post by elystokie on Jan 24, 2018 20:10:31 GMT
I seem to remember he struggled to cope in the prem until he bulked up in the gym and put 6kg of muscle on, I think he needs to get back to that to give himself any chance.
I'd love to see him back.
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 24, 2018 20:11:38 GMT
What are we like for squad spaces? Maybe we're seeing what we can do in the market in the next week before we recall him? Adam, Charles Graham Afellay, Ibrahim Allen, Joseph Michael* Berahino, Saido* Butland, Jack* Cameron, Geoff Scott Choupo-Moting, Eric Maxim Crouch, Peter James* Diouf, Mame Biram Fletcher, Darren Barr* Grant, Lee Anderson* Haugaard, Jakob Ireland, Stephen James* Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper* Martins Indi, Rolando Maximiliano Pieters, Erik Rodriguez Ruiz, Jese Shaqiri, Xherdan Shawcross, Ryan James* Wimmer, Kevin Zouma, Kurt Happy +Stafylidis and Bauer. So that's 23 currently by the looks of it. Think Harrison would count as under-age for this season too. Hopefully Johnson is out before February comes (and maybe Jese too)? Cheers. So room for Harrison, a striker and a midfielder then. Then if it's a choice between Imbula and Bojan or Johnson and Jese then we'd have to go for the former surely? Imbula has pissed me off so much since he's been here, but with Lambert playing a 433, then he might actually be worth a place in the squad? (might)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:30:25 GMT
Think the only thing we missed in the game on Saturday was the creative link between the forwards and midfield. That improved second half as we kept possession a bit more, but a number 10 would be a huge help. We won't get better value for money than a Bojan we already own. Bring him back. He doesn't have to be incredible, he just has to be a tidy focal point for our passing, give the opposition more to worry about and get to ball to stick a bit easier up front. The more players around Diouf the better.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 24, 2018 21:56:44 GMT
Have Bojan and Muni done anything in Spain??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:58:00 GMT
Have Bojan and Muni done anything in Spain?? Muni had a much more succesful time over there than Bojan. As much as it pains me to say, since his injury Bojan doesn’t seem to be able to cut it anymore
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 24, 2018 21:59:39 GMT
It’s been long enough now Lambo bring him home for fucks sake.
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Post by lordb on Jan 24, 2018 22:01:05 GMT
We need eleven grafters out there If We are going to bend the rules and say let shaq be a sort of number 10, who doesnt have to track back all the time Then We have played all our cards We cant say let bojan be number 10 Aswell, he doesnt have to track back either Its the premier league, not lads and dads We need grafters but we need matchwinner too. We won't stay up without both.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 0:26:39 GMT
We need eleven grafters out there If We are going to bend the rules and say let shaq be a sort of number 10, who doesnt have to track back all the time Then We have played all our cards We cant say let bojan be number 10 Aswell, he doesnt have to track back either Its the premier league, not lads and dads We need grafters but we need matchwinner too. We won't stay up without both. This ^ we need magic and graft.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 25, 2018 0:30:25 GMT
Not in the 18 again tonight - think this is the 4th game in a row. The Alaves President has said it's for the best he comes back. He allegedly want to come back. But it doesn't seem like we want him, does it? Bit of a shame he's got to waste the next 6 months of his life. But maybe we don't want to go back to paying his full wage again if we don't think he's going to contribute? Hard to see him having any future here if we don't even want him back in these circumstances, with a new broom sweeping through the club and with him being totally unwanted at his loan club? He’s still ours for another three years so it makes no sense to leave him not playing any football He’ll return But surely we'd have had him back already? Why wait?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 25, 2018 0:59:28 GMT
We need eleven grafters out there If We are going to bend the rules and say let shaq be a sort of number 10, who doesnt have to track back all the time Then We have played all our cards We cant say let bojan be number 10 Aswell, he doesnt have to track back either Its the premier league, not lads and dads We need grafters but we need matchwinner too. We won't stay up without both. Bojan isn't the match winner we need, he looks like a shadow of his former self and is too easily marked out of games.
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Post by adi on Jan 25, 2018 1:13:52 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 25, 2018 9:21:11 GMT
He’s still ours for another three years so it makes no sense to leave him not playing any football He’ll return But surely we'd have had him back already? Why wait? Maybe trying to get rid of Jesé First which has turned out to be more complicated then anticipated?
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Post by parsonage1955 on Jan 25, 2018 9:38:33 GMT
Shaq's a much more effective 10 than he is a winger (where l'd prefer to see Ramadan). So if we do bring Bojan back, he's effectively competing with Shaq. Is he as good as Shaq at 10?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jan 25, 2018 9:46:45 GMT
Feel like it would have happened by now if it was going too.
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Post by cruxmeister on Jan 25, 2018 10:32:30 GMT
Shaq's a much more effective 10 than he is a winger (where l'd prefer to see Ramadan). So if we do bring Bojan back, he's effectively competing with Shaq. Is he as good as Shaq at 10? I agree, he is our only really special talent and is more threatening at 10. Bojan isn't as good as Shaq but might be useful cover for when one of his massive calves go ping! I know Bojan hasn't lit up the world recently, but I do still think he can do a part time job in certain circumstances. His movement is very good and he attracts opposition players creating space for others. Might as well bring him back to the squad and let him fight for his place. I can't imagine he would expect to walk into the side after the underwhelming nature of his last 2 loan stints. Might be happy to play any part at all.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 25, 2018 10:32:54 GMT
It seems ridiculous for him not to be with the squad this week, if he going to come back. Perfect time to be reintegrated back into the set up and to get used to the new manager.
All very odd. Bojan I would bring back into the fray. Imbula can stay where he is.
Surely the Jese situation is irrelevant. He's not been involved for ages, he spends more time in Spain than England so if Bojan and Jese are here, you just leave Jese out of the 25 man squad if necessary. It's not great loss given how little he's featured.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 10:40:53 GMT
Shaq's a much more effective 10 than he is a winger (where l'd prefer to see Ramadan). So if we do bring Bojan back, he's effectively competing with Shaq. Is he as good as Shaq at 10? Shaq was great on the wing on saturday. He is infinitely better than Ramadan. With a number 10 alongside him it'd be much more fluid attacking wise. Just need a proper defensive midfielder.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 25, 2018 11:30:27 GMT
According to the Sentinel, last night was the fifth game in a row that he hasn't featured in the 18 - and he's played just 15 minutes since November 4th. Got to feel he would've been recalled by now if he was going to be though? Couldn't be getting stronger signals from the Alaves end that they want rid. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-news-transfer-rumours-1115207Where's Bojan? Stoke City playmaker Bojan was nowhere to be seen as Alaves crashed out of the Copa del Rey in Spain last night. It is the fifth successive league and cup game that Bojan has failed to make the Alaves squad after apparently being frozen out by new coach Abelardo. No wonder the little magician is so keen to get back to Stoke. For the record, Alaves lost on penalties to Valencia after drawing 2-2 over two legs.
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 25, 2018 11:36:44 GMT
Love Bojan but he is not the sought of player I would want alongside me in a Relgation scrap.
If he is not playing out there then why not bring him back to train with the squad ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 25, 2018 11:49:18 GMT
According to the Sentinel, last night was the fifth game in a row that he hasn't featured in the 18 - and he's played just 15 minutes since November 4th. Got to feel he would've been recalled by now if he was going to be though? Couldn't be getting stronger signals from the Alaves end that they want rid. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-news-transfer-rumours-1115207Where's Bojan? Stoke City playmaker Bojan was nowhere to be seen as Alaves crashed out of the Copa del Rey in Spain last night. It is the fifth successive league and cup game that Bojan has failed to make the Alaves squad after apparently being frozen out by new coach Abelardo. No wonder the little magician is so keen to get back to Stoke. For the record, Alaves lost on penalties to Valencia after drawing 2-2 over two legs. Presumably he has to be recalled before the transfer window closes? If we have a gap in 25 man squad come the end of the window, are we able to bring him back after the close of the window and add him to our ranks?
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 25, 2018 11:52:06 GMT
Luxury Player that gets knocked off the ball too easily and not the same since his injury. Haven't seen many offers for him here or Europe over the last two years. Another Write off I'm afraid to go with all the others. Get someone with a bit of Steel & skill in midfield like Allen
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Post by mickmacc on Jan 25, 2018 11:55:39 GMT
Luxury Player that gets knocked off the ball too easily and not the same since his injury. Haven't seen many offers for him here or Europe over the last two years. Another Write off I'm afraid to go with all the others. Get someone with a bit of Steel & skill in midfield like Allen Bang on.Its astonishing people want him back. He's a busted flush. Can't even get in the Alaves squad. His career has gone steadily downhill. And you're right in the Prem he is like watching an under 9 in an adults game. Football fans are weird sometimes.This romantic attachment to a player who won't remotely help us is just daft.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 25, 2018 12:04:16 GMT
According to the Sentinel, last night was the fifth game in a row that he hasn't featured in the 18 - and he's played just 15 minutes since November 4th. Got to feel he would've been recalled by now if he was going to be though? Couldn't be getting stronger signals from the Alaves end that they want rid. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-news-transfer-rumours-1115207Where's Bojan? Stoke City playmaker Bojan was nowhere to be seen as Alaves crashed out of the Copa del Rey in Spain last night. It is the fifth successive league and cup game that Bojan has failed to make the Alaves squad after apparently being frozen out by new coach Abelardo. No wonder the little magician is so keen to get back to Stoke. For the record, Alaves lost on penalties to Valencia after drawing 2-2 over two legs. Presumably he has to be recalled before the transfer window closes? If we have a gap in 25 man squad come the end of the window, are we able to bring him back after the close of the window and add him to our ranks? Pretty sure he has to be registered in our squad on Feb 1st if he's going to play this season - and the only 2 clubs he can play for this season are Stoke and Alaves - and it doesn't look like he's going to do any playing at all there. Suppose it's possible we're waiting to see what we can do, signings-wise, before recalling him. At the moment we've apparently got 23 (including Bauer and Stafylidis). Harrison wouldn't count this season - but the midfielder and striker we're supposedly tracking would take us up to the 25. And that'd mean we'd have to get rid of Jese - or just do the obvious move of putting him in ahead of Glen Johnson (and it's surely time to pay off the last 6 months of his deal) Bojan's got another 2 and a half years on £60-70k-a-week, so something's going to have to be worked out. There was some talk in Spain of an MLS team being interested, and apparently he'd be allowed to join them and play for them this season as their season starts on a different date. Could be time for him to look at that kind of thing if he's totally unwanted here and not good enough to make a mark at somewhere like Alaves?
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Post by foster on Jan 25, 2018 12:10:12 GMT
Luxury Player that gets knocked off the ball too easily and not the same since his injury. Haven't seen many offers for him here or Europe over the last two years. Another Write off I'm afraid to go with all the others. Get someone with a bit of Steel & skill in midfield like Allen Bang on.Its astonishing people want him back. He's a busted flush. Can't even get in the Alaves squad. His career has gone steadily downhill. And you're right in the Prem he is like watching an under 9 in an adults game. Football fans are weird sometimes.This romantic attachment to a player who won't remotely help us is just daft. I really liked him before the injury but since then he's basically a passenger and its like we're playing with 1 man down when he's on the pitch. Now unless we fill midfield with a bunch of bruisers who can all break up play and allow him a free role then fine, but that's not going to happen and we don't have the capacity to carry him anymore. I don;t mind him coming back, but then I'd only want to see him playing the last 15 minutes of games when we're already 3-0 up.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 25, 2018 12:16:50 GMT
Presumably he has to be recalled before the transfer window closes? If we have a gap in 25 man squad come the end of the window, are we able to bring him back after the close of the window and add him to our ranks? Pretty sure he has to be registered in our squad on Feb 1st if he's going to play this season - and the only 2 clubs he can play for this season are Stoke and Alaves - and it doesn't look like he's going to do any playing at all there. Suppose it's possible we're waiting to see what we can do, signings-wise, before recalling him. At the moment we've apparently got 23 (including Bauer and Stafylidis). Harrison wouldn't count this season - but the midfielder and striker we're supposedly tracking would take us up to the 25. And that'd mean we'd have to get rid of Jese - or just do the obvious move of putting him in ahead of Glen Johnson (and it's surely time to pay off the last 6 months of his deal) Bojan's got another 2 and a half years on £60-70k-a-week, so something's going to have to be worked out. There was some talk in Spain of an MLS team being interested, and apparently he'd be allowed to join them and play for them this season as their season starts on a different date. Could be time for him to look at that kind of thing if he's totally unwanted here and not good enough to make a mark at somewhere like Alaves? You have to think we are holding on to see what we can bring in and indeed ship out, prior to making a decision on him then...which isn't particularly conducive to making him feel wanted and a genuine part of the new managers plans.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 25, 2018 12:20:15 GMT
Shaq's a much more effective 10 than he is a winger (where l'd prefer to see Ramadan). So if we do bring Bojan back, he's effectively competing with Shaq. Is he as good as Shaq at 10? I think on his day he is as good as Shaq at 10. Competition is healthy and of course injuries and suspension needed to be covered. I would have him back for the rest of this season to take a good look at him, and decide his future in the summer.
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