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Post by woodstein on Jan 15, 2018 12:00:19 GMT
His he bringing in John Butler as his assistant? Think I need a fag- and I've never smoked in my life. Perhaps something stronger instead.
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Post by nathstoke86 on Jan 15, 2018 12:00:44 GMT
My biggest concern is what kinds of quality talent is Lambert going attract...? Am sure any decent players out there will see us with no ambition so why would they want to sign for us..!!!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 15, 2018 12:01:14 GMT
I think from where we were Lambert was the best appointment we could make. He is a serious individual who knows the Prem and the Championship and it seems our squad. I have a good feeling about this appointment.We are truly fucked then!
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Post by Gods on Jan 15, 2018 12:02:45 GMT
So long premier league...hello championship 😭 And if that is the case you are surely not going to blame Paul Lambert for it?! We are already on what you might politely call a 'downward trajectory' it's not Lambert who has engineered that. His job is to make an 'immediate impact'. I'm not sure what he has done wrong beyond not having an exotic Spanish name and a nice euro jumper/scarf combo ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 15, 2018 12:06:16 GMT
After 3 or more rejections this is not the appointment everyone wanted. I think everyone agrees that the way this has been handled by SCFC hierarchy is eamatyerish and embarrassing. I don't think this regime is sufficiently proactive or professional enough to take this club anywhere. Having said that, negativity towards the new manager at this point is suicide. So zip up your man suits ladies and let's get behind him and more importantly Stoke. He deserves a chance for having the balls to do this. Agree, not one that was wanted but let's give him a chance It's the players that need to man up (along with quite a few so called fans on here) and give 100% each game.
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Post by burystokie on Jan 15, 2018 12:07:07 GMT
One thing is for certain, no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth on here is going to help the situation, and if it's replicated inside the ground then it may make it a whole lot worse.
The appointment of Tony Pulis (first time around) was incredibly similar to this one - the Burley farce, posters guaranteeing that he'd definitely take us down, "you don't know what you're doing" in his very first game, etc. That eventually worked out rather better than any of us expected.
Hughes' appointment wasn't as unpopular as Pulis but we had the yellow 'Hughes Out' van and loads of moaning on here. That also worked out far better than expected, at least for the first few years.
Paul Lambert is an incredibly uninspiring choice, especially after we'd all got excited about QSF. But he's our manager now and the very least he deserves is to be given a chance to prove himself before the knives come out. He's also got a surprisingly decent managerial record (btw the incredible money at Wolves has come in THIS season - that's why they got rid of Lambert in the first place, to bring in the new manager who's very close to Jorge Mendes).
Even the 2.5 year contract doesn't surprise me that much. We hear over and over again that players won't bother listening to a manager who won't be there long term. Even Manchester United had a dip when Alex Ferguson announced he was going to retire. We don't know the details of the contract, maybe we can sack him for a couple of months' wages, but it makes sense to at least appear to be giving him a future at the club. Sure, if he keeps us up then I'd imagine he'll probably be given a crack at next season as well but I'd take that right now. We all would, wouldn't we?
Bottom line, Paul Lambert is now the manager of Stoke City and as supporters, if we want the best for our club then the best thing we can do is get behind him. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out but at least let's take the time to find out?
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Post by Gods on Jan 15, 2018 12:14:56 GMT
One thing is for certain, no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth on here is going to help the situation, and if it's replicated inside the ground then it may make it a whole lot worse. The appointment of Tony Pulis (first time around) was incredibly similar to this one - the Burley farce, posters guaranteeing that he'd definitely take us down, "you don't know what you're doing" in his very first game, etc. That eventually worked out rather better than any of us expected. Hughes' appointment wasn't as unpopular as Pulis but we had the yellow 'Hughes Out' van and loads of moaning on here. That also worked out far better than expected, at least for the first few years. Paul Lambert is an incredibly uninspiring choice, especially after we'd all got excited about QSF. But he's our manager now and the very least he deserves is to be given a chance to prove himself before the knives come out. He's also got a surprisingly decent managerial record (btw the incredible money at Wolves has come in THIS season - that's why they got rid of Lambert in the first place, to bring in the new manager who's very close to Jorge Mendes). Even the 2.5 year contract doesn't surprise me that much. We hear over and over again that players won't bother listening to a manager who won't be there long term. Even Manchester United had a dip when Alex Ferguson announced he was going to retire. We don't know the details of the contract, maybe we can sack him for a couple of months' wages, but it makes sense to at least appear to be giving him a future at the club. Sure, if he keeps us up then I'd imagine he'll probably be given a crack at next season as well but I'd take that right now. We all would, wouldn't we? Bottom line, Paul Lambert is now the manager of Stoke City and as supporters, if we want the best for our club then the best thing we can do is get behind him. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out but at least let's take the time to find out? Nice analogy. 1.Lambert is not to blame for where we are and our current downward trajectory. 2.He is a serious individual with a strong work ethic willing to stand up and be counted where others were not. I'm really not sure what he has done wrong, we should stand up and be counted too and get behind him. Anything less and we are in the Championship and the game is well and truly up.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 15, 2018 12:17:22 GMT
He spent a fortune at Wolves You are wrong! The only signing he made after he took over in November 2015 was our old player Ben Marshall from Blackburn - fee not disclosed - but no way a fortune. And his win% at 42% is quite respectable
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Post by liamo on Jan 15, 2018 12:18:43 GMT
We signed a right back with no manager, recruitment won't be an issue because we shouldn't be targeting big name failures at big clubs anyway considering Hughes adventures in to the transfer market...
Saying that.. do you think when players come to teams like Stoke they really REALLY mean it when they say they come for the manager? Shaqiri is here for the £75k a week
There are plenty of young hungry players that would improve us dramatically and wouldn't turn us down, we just have to find them
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Post by redwhite on Jan 15, 2018 12:20:39 GMT
The only positivity I can find in this is that I and many others thought Hughes was a horrific appointment and he proved to be fantastic during the first couple of years.
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Post by Godo on Jan 15, 2018 12:22:35 GMT
...........and on another positive note his recent experience of the Championship will be very useful next season.
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Post by conroyfan on Jan 15, 2018 12:26:13 GMT
Lambert managed back to back promotions at Norwich taking them from League 1 to the premiership,must have something about him to achieve that a d also has a good record with young players, deserves a chance
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Post by foster on Jan 15, 2018 12:26:49 GMT
After 3 or more rejections this is not the appointment everyone wanted. I think everyone agrees that the way this has been handled by SCFC hierarchy is eamatyerish and embarrassing. I don't think this regime is sufficiently proactive or professional enough to take this club anywhere. Having said that, negativity towards the new manager at this point is suicide. So zip up your man suits ladies and let's get behind him and more importantly Stoke. He deserves a chance for having the balls to do this. You'll never get everyone happy with any individual manager. However, saying that Lambert is ahead of our 2nd and 3rd rejections in terms of my preference. QSF was never going to happen either.
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Post by stokiekm on Jan 15, 2018 12:29:49 GMT
People ignore facts like this when they hate him though
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2018 12:31:01 GMT
People ignore facts like this when they hate him though His PL "experience"
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Post by iplayinthehole on Jan 15, 2018 12:33:22 GMT
Lambert managed back to back promotions at Norwich taking them from League 1 to the premiership,must have something about him to achieve that a d also has a good record with young players, deserves a chance He's our manager now, doesn't matter if we wanted someone else. Lots of people pointing out the negatives whilst completely dismissing the positives, which doesn't seem very even handed. Let's give him a chance at least. He might surprise us. We have to give him the benefit of the doubt until we have a reason not too.
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Post by stokiekm on Jan 15, 2018 12:33:46 GMT
My biggest concern is what kinds of quality talent is Lambert going attract...? Am sure any decent players out there will see us with no ambition so why would they want to sign for us..!!! big fat fuck off premier league salary perhaps?
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 15, 2018 12:35:10 GMT
People ignore facts like this when they hate him though His PL "experience" Good point
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Post by hstoke on Jan 15, 2018 12:36:01 GMT
And whose got the say and final say on what players he will sign
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Post by andystokey on Jan 15, 2018 12:36:38 GMT
People ignore facts like this when they hate him though His PL "experience" 1 Pt a game at Villa
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Post by greyman on Jan 15, 2018 12:37:26 GMT
After 3 or more rejections this is not the appointment everyone wanted. I think everyone agrees that the way this has been handled by SCFC hierarchy is eamatyerish and embarrassing. I don't think this regime is sufficiently proactive or professional enough to take this club anywhere. Having said that, negativity towards the new manager at this point is suicide. So zip up your man suits ladies and let's get behind him and more importantly Stoke. He deserves a chance for having the balls to do this. You'll never get everyone happy with any individual manager. However, saying that Lambert is ahead of our 2nd and 3rd rejections in terms of my preference. QSF was never going to happen either. Except he met with the club and agreed terms.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 12:38:35 GMT
I think from where we were Lambert was the best appointment we could make. He is a serious individual who knows the Prem and the Championship and it seems our squad. I have a good feeling about this appointment. Let’s hope so Gods. He’s really not as bad as some are making him out to be; there are plenty of positives in his career thus far - especially what he achieved at Norwich - and he’s still relatively young and hungry to achieve something at the top level.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 15, 2018 12:39:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 12:41:06 GMT
There really isn't anything to cling on to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 12:41:14 GMT
It is easy to jump to the conclusion that Paul Lambert has very little to offer However,a look back at his record suggests many positives... Lambert was given no money to spend in his last few seasons at Villa, nor at Blackburn or Wolves. I believe he left Blackburn of his own accord at the end of that season His win % at Wolves was very good when he departed at the season end (was there a change of ownership?) His earlier managerial career at Norwich and Villa was superb. He brought in many young faces at Villa in particular And he is only 48 - young but experienced Looking good? His time ar villa ws superb? No chance I usually say whoever it is get behind them.... Lambert out
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Post by knyperstokie on Jan 15, 2018 12:41:26 GMT
He doesn't seem to come across well on the media, which may explain some of the negative comments here. A bit boring but a safe pair of hands would be my description of him. Might be just what we need. Pack the defence and back to the long ball for the rest of the season!
Let's give the guy a chance and get behind him and the team - it's the only option after all.
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Post by stokie23 on Jan 15, 2018 12:43:49 GMT
Board need to back him ! We need to get behind the lads, 6 massive games after tonight !
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Post by foster on Jan 15, 2018 12:44:11 GMT
You'll never get everyone happy with any individual manager. However, saying that Lambert is ahead of our 2nd and 3rd rejections in terms of my preference. QSF was never going to happen either. Except he met with the club and agreed terms. Except that he obviously didn't agree terms or he'd be the manager now.
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Post by hoofmagic on Jan 15, 2018 12:45:13 GMT
Afer 50 years im OUT....................
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jan 15, 2018 12:45:52 GMT
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