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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2018 16:09:58 GMT
Man City's owners have been absolutely brilliant for them. Piss poor choice! It's piss poor understanding on your part. You would still be moaning if we were second in he table so they are your only option. Personally I prefer us being owned by someone who has supported the club for sixty years or so, provides local jobs, understands the game, is well respected and is actually English. if they and Man City are so brilliant, off you go then... I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 15, 2018 16:18:36 GMT
What do you mean “have for years”? How many years? What issues? We have consistently outperformed what our wage bill would predict, been way more successful than a Club with our crowd, catchment and international profile could expect for a decade and have Very strong finances. Benchmark our commercial revenue against the division and you will see we generate more than our peers on a like for like basis. Please provide evidence for what i believe is a lazy and ill-informed assertion Our commercial results are poor and have been since we got up. Our advertising strategy is lazy, piggy back on bet365 and don't diversify from there. The whole club is lazy really, like this appointment, lazy and unambitious. We're run like a Conference club. They have been happy to stick with a bloke who was flailing for two years, it was sheer arrogance to stick with him for how long they did and they're paying for it. Our commercial results are not poor. I have seen the financial data from all PL clubs and we outperform on revenue generated. What would be your evidence for saying we are poor?
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Post by tqstokie on Jan 15, 2018 16:21:38 GMT
IMHO all we as supporters of the club can do for now is get behind the new manager and the team. Supporters have been disillusioned with the clubs transfer dealings, Mr Scholes and Mr Cartwright for a long time now. The board did act too late but it was done in good faith. The manager recruitment debacle seems that it is not wholly the fault of the club. Why we don't ask for people to apply as for any other job is a mystery to me and then interview and decide who is the best option, instead of washing our linen in public. Good luck Paul Lambert, I personally wish you every success.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 15, 2018 16:21:41 GMT
You have no idea how the club is run. John and Peter are joined at the hip and invest huge amounts of time into the Club. The idea that one is running things alone is just wrong, changing roles would not change anything they have complete shared responsibility. Either you want the club to have access to their money or you don’t, that is the only choice I want the club to be run like a PL club should be. PL view is Stoke City is the best run PL club but what would they know?
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 15, 2018 16:25:25 GMT
It's piss poor understanding on your part. You would still be moaning if we were second in he table so they are your only option. Personally I prefer us being owned by someone who has supported the club for sixty years or so, provides local jobs, understands the game, is well respected and is actually English. if they and Man City are so brilliant, off you go then... I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks. Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2018 16:28:59 GMT
I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks. Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it Oh us being in the PL is amazing for the area, that's why the boards negligence over Hughes is even more frustrating than it would be normally.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2018 16:29:28 GMT
Our commercial results are poor and have been since we got up. Our advertising strategy is lazy, piggy back on bet365 and don't diversify from there. The whole club is lazy really, like this appointment, lazy and unambitious. We're run like a Conference club. They have been happy to stick with a bloke who was flailing for two years, it was sheer arrogance to stick with him for how long they did and they're paying for it. Our commercial results are not poor. I have seen the financial data from all PL clubs and we outperform on revenue generated. What would be your evidence for saying we are poor? Lets have a look then because the data I've seen doesn't favour us!
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 15, 2018 16:29:53 GMT
Shit Bin
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 15, 2018 16:29:55 GMT
I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks. Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it Those figures are going to take a massive hit when we are in the championship next season.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 15, 2018 16:31:25 GMT
I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks. Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it Save your good efforts, when characters like this simply have agendas.
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Post by vahl on Jan 15, 2018 16:38:38 GMT
I got it and they have a face and they are easily the best owners in the league with what they've done for that club and that area in Manchester. It doesn't bother me tbh and I do like it and I'm not calling for all of the Coates' to go............. And why would I do that? What bollocks. Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it This is a good and important point. Most people don't realise (or actually care enough) what having this club in the Premier League means for the entire City of Stoke. It is massive for us and the people that live here. The focus of everyone's energy should be on getting Stoke back up the table now.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 15, 2018 16:40:17 GMT
Coates in.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jan 15, 2018 16:45:48 GMT
There’s stupid comments, then there’s this shit. Some people have short memories for what he’s done for us. Probably wouldn’t see you again if we got relegated.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 15, 2018 16:49:08 GMT
Sorry to be boring and quite facts but Stoke City’s impact of the city of Stoke-on-Trent is way ahead of Manchester City’s and nearly all PL clubs. Stoke City generated around 3% of PL revenue in 2014/5 but over 4% of economic and social impact. Report is publicly available if you want to read it This is a good and important point. Most people don't realise (or actually care enough) what having this club in the Premier League means for the entire City of Stoke. It is massive for us and the people that live here. The focus of everyone's energy should be on getting Stoke back up the table now. The point I do make about the Coates family and the owners is that virtually all other club owners are in debt to the club because football is not a money making business. Contrast the proportion of their income the average season ticket holder spends on their hobby, Stoke, with the proportion that John and Peter put in or Bet365 Stoke are being run on the cheap and it shows. Brilliant, sound business but a poor way to run a successful football club. As an extreme example Chelsea owe their owner about £300m.
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Post by knightonstokie on Jan 15, 2018 16:51:45 GMT
Its clear that things need to change at all levels in the club. We need a clear out and restructure throughout. I think it is time for Peter to step down and let his son take over. Scholes and cartwright need to be removed with a new transfer strategy being implemented (don't ask me what) as this one is clearly struggling to get the right players through the doors and closing deals efficiently.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2018 16:55:24 GMT
There’s stupid comments, then there’s this shit. Some people have short memories for what he’s done for us. Probably wouldn’t see you again if we got relegated. No short memory, he's been great but the board haven't been up to scratch for some time now and a freshness within that is needed. And that's bollocks. I can't wait to have my row back!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 15, 2018 17:50:49 GMT
We wanted Hughes out and look what we ended up with. I don't want Coates out but I do want a credible and professional executive team to run the Club. Second sentence is spot on
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 15, 2018 19:23:49 GMT
Anyone else like this angry Bayern? 😂 Reminds me of a victim who becomes enraged after a tough traumatic experience. If his recruitment and definite “outs” each window are anything to go off of Lambert could be the savoiur.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 15, 2018 19:48:39 GMT
Coates in...bayernoutcake
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Post by chad on Jan 15, 2018 19:52:39 GMT
The most embarrassing thread ever on here and that’s saying something
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 15, 2018 20:21:13 GMT
It is on the face of it another underwhelming, uninspiring appointment even for Mr Coates.
His mistake was leaving it to get this bad and then having no time to chose a better candidate and he does have to stop with this British thing.
He also needs to get good footballing people around him and listen to their advice in the future.
He has still been great for our club in the past and hopefully will be in the future, but let's be brutally honest the future looks pretty bleak at the moment no matter how you sugar-coat it and things do need to change in the way performance of our team is monitored so we don't let things stagnate too long before change and we need to be braver and more forward thinking when choosing our next manager which may mean removing PC from that decision
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jan 15, 2018 21:03:09 GMT
There’s stupid comments, then there’s this shit. Some people have short memories for what he’s done for us. Probably wouldn’t see you again if we got relegated. No short memory, he's been great but the board haven't been up to scratch for some time now and a freshness within that is needed. And that's bollocks. I can't wait to have my row back! I’ve read some shit on here, but this tops that pile for me.
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Post by alster on Jan 15, 2018 21:23:57 GMT
We wanted Hughes out and look what we ended up with. I don't want Coates out but I do want a credible and professional executive team to run the Club. Said for sometime if they are going to continue with their ownership they need to get a sharp operator in the Levy mould to run the club they’re simply not up to it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 5, 2018 23:05:32 GMT
He's got to step down as Chairman at the end of this season surely?
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Post by StokieNath on Feb 5, 2018 23:08:14 GMT
He's got to step down as Chairman at the end of this season surely? One can hope.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Feb 5, 2018 23:08:42 GMT
He’s fucking senile.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 5, 2018 23:10:18 GMT
He really has shat his pants completely.
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Post by songthrush01 on Feb 5, 2018 23:10:37 GMT
There’s stupid comments, then there’s this shit. Some people have short memories for what he’s done for us. Probably wouldn’t see you again if we got relegated. why whats he done,i think you will find it was tony that got us in the prem and kept us in it.
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Post by scfc5 on Feb 5, 2018 23:15:42 GMT
We wanted Hughes out and look what we ended up with. I don't want Coates out but I do want a credible and professional executive team to run the Club. Said for sometime if they are going to continue with their ownership they need to get a sharp operator in the Levy mould to run the club they’re simply not up to it. I suspect they think they have already...
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2018 23:16:00 GMT
Like I said years ago, leopards don't change their spots.
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