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Post by george2again on Jan 7, 2018 22:53:30 GMT
Written off but could thrive under a different manager - Are we able to get any of them back?
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Post by professorplump on Jan 7, 2018 22:56:03 GMT
I wouldn't mind having Muni back if he could keep himself fit.
It has to be said though that Bojan and Imbula have struggled under many different managers.
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Post by george2again on Jan 7, 2018 23:02:51 GMT
I think Muni is pretty limited and fairly slow but he would have suited the left wing back role far better than Pieters - undoubtly another nail in Hughes coffin the decesion to peservere with Pieters. Have to say Hughes made some glaring errors mostly playing a system without the personnel to carry it through. Everybody saw this before a ball was kicked.
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Post by bigdev on Jan 7, 2018 23:03:44 GMT
Bring back Imbula.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 7, 2018 23:07:30 GMT
Bojan and Muni will end up in the Spanish second and Imbula will be stacking boxes in a warehouse
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 23:09:18 GMT
I think we can bring in someone better than Imbula this window.
Bringing back Bojan gives us at least one number 10 in the squad, and a creative player who isn't Shaq.
Not sure re: Muni, we already have a fair few defenders but he'd be decent left back cover.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2018 23:11:09 GMT
I think what this highlights, is just how difficult it's going to be for the new chap to assess the squad.
How on earth is he going to know where the strengths and weaknesses are and which positions he should target in the window?
Who does he turn to for honest (and more importantly) accurate advice?
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 7, 2018 23:12:01 GMT
I think what this highlights, is just how difficult it's going to be for the new chap to assess the squad. How on earth is he going to know where the strengths and weaknesses are and which positions he should target in the window? Who does he turn to for honest (and more importantly) accurate advice? He'll log on here. ??? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 23:12:14 GMT
Any manager will want to look at all the player material at his new club and everyone will get a chance, and damn it, that includes Berahino and Wimmer. The manager may not be aware of the reasons why players aren't at the club at the moment, so they will definitely come bck with their slates truly swiped clean. However all five have problems that need solving primarily by the players themselves, so if they do come back they will have to assert themselves quickly. If they show the right attitude it wouldn't be the first time that a new manager was able to release unfulfilled potential. You could say that Mark Hughes was very good in that respect! Arnautovic, Bojan, Diouf, Ireland and others were all given much longer time to find their feet than most managers would have.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 7, 2018 23:12:33 GMT
Bojan and Imbula on long contracts
Depending on who comes in obviously. I hope they get a fair crack
Someone, somewhere has to get a tune out if Imbula. One day.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 7, 2018 23:14:41 GMT
Bojan and Imbula on long contracts Depending on who comes in obviously. I hope they get a fair crack Someone, somewhere has to get a tune out if Imbula. One day. To be honest, I don't think you'd get a tune out of Imbula even if he had a flute for a cock. The bloke's a waste of space. |
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Post by greystokie on Jan 7, 2018 23:16:35 GMT
For a variety of different and well rehearsed reasons none of them are suited to Prem football. They'll never feature for SCFC again.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 7, 2018 23:19:15 GMT
Muniesta sounds like a City you might visit in a very hard away trip in the old UEFA Cup, Commentary via a phone line on Radio 2.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 7, 2018 23:19:17 GMT
Bojan and Imbula on long contracts Depending on who comes in obviously. I hope they get a fair crack Someone, somewhere has to get a tune out if Imbula. One day. To be honest, I don't think you'd get a tune out of Imbula even if he had a flute for a cock. The bloke's a waste of space. For some reason I'm wiling to give Berahino the benefit of the doubt and I think Wimmer has just been brought into a team that was in terminal decline but everyone involved in the Imbula signing needs to be out of the door during this changing of the guard. I've never seen a more one footed lacksidaisical waste of space than this player.... |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 7, 2018 23:20:34 GMT
Who's going to take £150,000 per week of wages off our hands?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 23:29:03 GMT
I think what this highlights, is just how difficult it's going to be for the new chap to assess the squad. How on earth is he going to know where the strengths and weaknesses are and which positions he should target in the window? Who does he turn to for honest (and more importantly) accurate advice? Surely it wouldn’t be difficult for the new man to watch replays of several games this season to see the glaring issues in our squad. Also there won’t be wholesale changes this window, this team just weds some organisation and we will be fine. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 7, 2018 23:31:05 GMT
Muniesta, is that a crazy hybrid of Muni and Iniesta 🤔
Could be quite a player that
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2018 23:41:26 GMT
I think what this highlights, is just how difficult it's going to be for the new chap to assess the squad. How on earth is he going to know where the strengths and weaknesses are and which positions he should target in the window? Who does he turn to for honest (and more importantly) accurate advice? Surely it wouldn’t be difficult for the new man to watch replays of several games this season to see the glaring issues in our squad. Also there won’t be wholesale changes this window, this team just weds some organisation and we will be fine. Well he's not going to have a clue about the players that haven't played is he? And he's not really going to have the time to sit down and study 30 hours of videos is he? And if he did, what's it actually going to tell him ... that we need a load of new defenders and a striker or two? |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 7, 2018 23:42:22 GMT
Who's going to take £150,000 per week of wages off our hands? They don't all have to go to the same place, do they? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2018 23:43:44 GMT
Who's going to take £150,000 per week of wages off our hands? They don't all have to go to the same place, do they? He hasn't suggested that though has he? |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 7, 2018 23:45:40 GMT
Surely it wouldn’t be difficult for the new man to watch replays of several games this season to see the glaring issues in our squad. Also there won’t be wholesale changes this window, this team just weds some organisation and we will be fine. Well he's not going to have a clue about the players that haven't played is he? And he's not really going to have the time to sit down and study 30 hours of videos is he? And if he did, what's it actually going to tell him ... that we need a load of new defenders and a striker or two? I imagine if I were a manager looking to take on a new job, which I will never be, I would have studied up before my interview and have my answers to the team's recent struggles at the ready. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 7, 2018 23:46:18 GMT
They don't all have to go to the same place, do they? He hasn't suggested that though has he? Is Imbula being paid 150,000 a week?! |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 7, 2018 23:51:43 GMT
Bojan and Muni will end up in the Spanish second and Imbula will be stacking boxes in a warehouse But those boxes will be full of money we gave him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 23:52:05 GMT
They're contracted here...they might as well be given a go.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2018 23:52:05 GMT
Well he's not going to have a clue about the players that haven't played is he? And he's not really going to have the time to sit down and study 30 hours of videos is he? And if he did, what's it actually going to tell him ... that we need a load of new defenders and a striker or two? I imagine if I were a manager looking to take on a new job, which I will never be, I would have studied up before my interview and have my answers to the team's recent struggles at the ready. Just walk me through (say) Gary Rowett 'studying up' comprehensively on the Stoke City squad before he even has his interview. What will this entail specifically? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 7, 2018 23:53:42 GMT
He hasn't suggested that though has he? Is Imbula being paid 150,000 a week?! Eh? |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 7, 2018 23:57:04 GMT
I imagine if I were a manager looking to take on a new job, which I will never be, I would have studied up before my interview and have my answers to the team's recent struggles at the ready. Just walk me through (say) Gary Rowett 'studying up' comprehensively on the Stoke City squad before he even has his interview. What will this entail specifically? I imagine he would be asked questions about both tactics and personnel, and how he would approach the clubs recent struggles, which are no secret, our defence is non-existent, and we struggle to create shots on target. If he can't give an answer to how he can take over and improve us in those two areas, then he wouldn't even have prepared for the interview let alone being ready to steer the ship. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 7, 2018 23:59:21 GMT
Is Imbula being paid 150,000 a week?! Eh? when OP said who is going to take 150,000 off our wage bill, it seemed he was saying they all had to go at once, to a singular "who". We could realistically find a club that might be willingy to gamble on say Bojan without worrying about selling the others to the same buyer. |
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Post by thegift on Jan 8, 2018 0:00:21 GMT
Is Imbula being paid 150,000 a week?! Eh? Paul is trying to be clever. Although you stated we need to get rid of 150K and someone has to take it, paul was saying each player can go to various clubs, so would only be taking 1/3 of the bill, 50K Paul's idea of funny, but in fact, it wasn't really. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:06:52 GMT
Just walk me through (say) Gary Rowett 'studying up' comprehensively on the Stoke City squad before he even has his interview. What will this entail specifically? I imagine he would be asked questions about both tactics and personnel, and how he would approach the clubs recent struggles, which are no secret, our defence is non-existent, and we struggle to create shots on target. If he can't give an answer to how he can take over and improve us in those two areas, then he wouldn't even have prepared for the interview let alone being ready to steer the ship. There is absolutely no way he can he have a comprehensive understanding of the specific weaknesses and strengths of our squad at this point and the board won't expect him to have either. That is something that will come as he gets to work with them on the training ground and as he watches them in matches. If the new man had come in in December then they would have a better understanding of what their requirements would be in the current window because they would have had a few weeks to assess the players but the new guy isn't going to be afforded that opportunity. There's no point in crying over split milk though, we are where we are but let's not pretend that's it's not going to be a tall order for the new manager when it comes to make recruitment decisions this window. |
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