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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:08:06 GMT
Paul is trying to be clever. Although you stated we need to get rid of 150K and someone has to take it, paul was saying each player can go to various clubs, so would only be taking 1/3 of the bill, 50K Paul's idea of funny, but in fact, it wasn't really. What the fuck are you wittering on about now?
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Post by thegift on Jan 8, 2018 0:09:36 GMT
Paul is trying to be clever. Although you stated we need to get rid of 150K and someone has to take it, paul was saying each player can go to various clubs, so would only be taking 1/3 of the bill, 50K Paul's idea of funny, but in fact, it wasn't really. What the fuck are you wittering on about now? Oh Paul, you know.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:09:55 GMT
when OP said who is going to take 150,000 off our wage bill, it seemed he was saying they all had to go at once, to a singular "who". We could realistically find a club that might be willingy to gamble on say Bojan without worrying about selling the others to the same buyer. Did you seriously think he was suggesting that they all had to go to the same team? Really? Behave.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:13:41 GMT
What the fuck are you wittering on about now? Oh Paul, you know. Ok then.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 8, 2018 0:14:08 GMT
I imagine he would be asked questions about both tactics and personnel, and how he would approach the clubs recent struggles, which are no secret, our defence is non-existent, and we struggle to create shots on target. If he can't give an answer to how he can take over and improve us in those two areas, then he wouldn't even have prepared for the interview let alone being ready to steer the ship. There is absolutely no way he can he have a comprehensive understanding of the specific weaknesses and strengths of our squad at this point and the board won't expect him to have either. That is something that will come as he gets to work with them on the training ground and as he watches them in matches. If the new man had come in in December then they would have a better understanding of what their requirements would be in the current window because they would have had a few weeks to assess the players but the new guy isn't going to be afforded that opportunity. There's no point in crying over split milk though, we are where we are but let's not pretend that's it's not going to be a tall order for the new manager when it comes to make recruitment decisions this window. I disagree. I think with even just one day to prepare a PL quality manager should be able to do enough research to get a decent handle on a squad's strengths and weaknesses. We see it happen every week when good managers set their teams up to play well by taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of their competition.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 8, 2018 0:15:08 GMT
when OP said who is going to take 150,000 off our wage bill, it seemed he was saying they all had to go at once, to a singular "who". We could realistically find a club that might be willingy to gamble on say Bojan without worrying about selling the others to the same buyer. Did you seriously think he was suggesting that they all had to go to the same team? Really? Behave. Jeez, Paul, relax. I was just on about how the 150,000 doesn't have to go at once.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:22:57 GMT
There is absolutely no way he can he have a comprehensive understanding of the specific weaknesses and strengths of our squad at this point and the board won't expect him to have either. That is something that will come as he gets to work with them on the training ground and as he watches them in matches. If the new man had come in in December then they would have a better understanding of what their requirements would be in the current window because they would have had a few weeks to assess the players but the new guy isn't going to be afforded that opportunity. There's no point in crying over split milk though, we are where we are but let's not pretend that's it's not going to be a tall order for the new manager when it comes to make recruitment decisions this window. I disagree. I think with even just one day to prepare a PL quality manager should be able to do enough research to get a decent handle on a squad's strengths and weaknesses. We see it happen every week when good managers set their teams up to play well by taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of their competition. Mate clubs have scouts watching the opposition and studying videos for weeks prior to playing them, they will be aware of the opposition they have to play in the league that they were competing. Let's say Mark Hughes walked into an interview this week for a team in the relegation zone in the Championship. Do you think he would have a comprehensive understanding of THAT squad, that he'd know the strengths and weaknesses of it and know which transfer targets he should be targeting? Of course he wouldn't, he's been concentrating on Stoke City.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:26:01 GMT
Did you seriously think he was suggesting that they all had to go to the same team? Really? Behave. Jeez, Paul, relax. I was just on about how the 150,000 doesn't have to go at once. I'm fine mate. He never said that the 150,000 had to go at once, that was you. You didn't really think he was suggesting that did you?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 8, 2018 0:29:24 GMT
I disagree. I think with even just one day to prepare a PL quality manager should be able to do enough research to get a decent handle on a squad's strengths and weaknesses. We see it happen every week when good managers set their teams up to play well by taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of their competition. Mate clubs have scouts watching the opposition and studying videos for weeks prior to playing them, they will be aware of the opposition they have to play in the league that they were competing. Let's say Mark Hughes walked into an interview this week for a team in the relegation zone in the Championship. Do you think he would have a comprehensive understanding of THAT squad, that he'd know the strengths and weaknesses of it and know which transfer targets he should be targeting? Of course he wouldn't, he's been concentrating on Stoke City. With 48 hours notice I could tell you the squad needs of any PL team, and I work 50-60 hours a week, and haven't done my badges.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 8, 2018 0:31:04 GMT
Jeez, Paul, relax. I was just on about how the 150,000 doesn't have to go at once. I'm fine mate. He never said that the 150,000 had to go at once, that was you. You didn't really think he was suggesting that did you? i dunno ask him, but yes that's how it looked , who will take the wages of three players off our hands? That's how I read it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:33:03 GMT
Mate clubs have scouts watching the opposition and studying videos for weeks prior to playing them, they will be aware of the opposition they have to play in the league that they were competing. Let's say Mark Hughes walked into an interview this week for a team in the relegation zone in the Championship. Do you think he would have a comprehensive understanding of THAT squad, that he'd know the strengths and weaknesses of it and know which transfer targets he should be targeting? Of course he wouldn't, he's been concentrating on Stoke City. With 48 hours notice I could tell you the squad needs of any PL team, and I work 50-60 hours a week, and haven't done my badges. Fair enough, good for you. That's clearly why we disagree on this.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 0:35:28 GMT
I'm fine mate. He never said that the 150,000 had to go at once, that was you. You didn't really think he was suggesting that did you? i dunno ask him, but yes that's how it looked , who will take the wages of three players off our hands? That's how I read it. It's be a pretty stupid thing for him to suggest and I don't think he's that stupid. Hence your interpretation of it didn't even cross my mind.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 8, 2018 0:51:03 GMT
I think Muni is pretty limited and fairly slow but he would have suited the left wing back role far better than Pieters - undoubtly another nail in Hughes coffin the decesion to peservere with Pieters. Have to say Hughes made some glaring errors mostly playing a system without the personnel to carry it through. Everybody saw this before a ball was kicked. Slow wing back - we already have several of those!
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Post by kustokie on Jan 8, 2018 0:52:39 GMT
There is absolutely no way he can he have a comprehensive understanding of the specific weaknesses and strengths of our squad at this point and the board won't expect him to have either. That is something that will come as he gets to work with them on the training ground and as he watches them in matches. If the new man had come in in December then they would have a better understanding of what their requirements would be in the current window because they would have had a few weeks to assess the players but the new guy isn't going to be afforded that opportunity. There's no point in crying over split milk though, we are where we are but let's not pretend that's it's not going to be a tall order for the new manager when it comes to make recruitment decisions this window. I disagree. I think with even just one day to prepare a PL quality manager should be able to do enough research to get a decent handle on a squad's strengths and weaknesses. We see it happen every week when good managers set their teams up to play well by taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of their competition. Any potentially serious candidate will have been contacted weeks ago and has already done their research. That’s how it works. Edit: The next 24 - 48 hours are all about dotting the “i”s and crossing the “t”s on the contracts
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 8, 2018 1:00:39 GMT
I'd recall all of them if it was possible so the new manager can see if he can get anything out of them.
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Post by ramin on Jan 8, 2018 1:28:52 GMT
I imagine if I were a manager looking to take on a new job, which I will never be, I would have studied up before my interview and have my answers to the team's recent struggles at the ready. Just walk me through (say) Gary Rowett 'studying up' comprehensively on the Stoke City squad before he even has his interview. What will this entail specifically? Stay at Derby..
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 8, 2018 2:25:09 GMT
Not a clue, like everybody else
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Post by hanibal7 on Jan 8, 2018 2:27:20 GMT
There is absolutely no way he can he have a comprehensive understanding of the specific weaknesses and strengths of our squad at this point and the board won't expect him to have either. That is something that will come as he gets to work with them on the training ground and as he watches them in matches. If the new man had come in in December then they would have a better understanding of what their requirements would be in the current window because they would have had a few weeks to assess the players but the new guy isn't going to be afforded that opportunity. There's no point in crying over split milk though, we are where we are but let's not pretend that's it's not going to be a tall order for the new manager when it comes to make recruitment decisions this window. I disagree. I think with even just one day to prepare a PL quality manager should be able to do enough research to get a decent handle on a squad's strengths and weaknesses. We see it happen every week when good managers set their teams up to play well by taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of their competition. U mean Potts or giggs, quality premieiership manager lol.
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Post by Northy on Jan 8, 2018 7:21:59 GMT
fook me, how many times does this question have to be answered, can't admin just pin the rule on loans, domestic and abroad
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 8, 2018 8:06:51 GMT
Imbula is a beast on the ball but has the tactical nous, work rate and attitude of a 5 year old.
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Post by Davef on Jan 8, 2018 8:45:14 GMT
Sorry to say, but like Berahino, Bojan is a broken footballer. I watched him playing for Alaves last night and he just looks like a player going through the motions.
Whatever problems we have right now, he's most certainly not the answer.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 8, 2018 8:52:51 GMT
Muni is the only one that might help and he isn't really the answer. Would you want either of the other two with you in a battle?
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Post by davyboy on Jan 8, 2018 10:52:18 GMT
Muni rarely if ever let us down when he played and is Stoke through and through. We could certainly have done with him through all of injury problems! I agree with the view that Bojan is sadly a broken man and Imbula is a lame duck. Failed at Porto, Stoke and now Toulouse. Get rid!!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 8, 2018 11:00:39 GMT
Munies(t)a - get him back if it means dropping Wimmer.
Imbula could do a good job cleaning the boots for the Academy players.
Bojan looks totally lost which is just a shame. Maybe an arm around the shoulder from the new manager might get him focused.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 8, 2018 11:07:37 GMT
Bojan and Muni will end up in the Spanish second and Imbula will be stacking boxes in a warehouse Most warehouses pay piecework. He'd be fucking skint.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 8, 2018 11:47:08 GMT
Imbula needs to go. If we could possibly get £10 million for him it would be like Christmas all over again. That is the best possible result for us, but wouldn't happen until the Summer. It's obvious that Muniesa would have been equally as good as and actually better than Wimmer as a left sided centre back/back up left back, but he wanted game time which Hughes couldn't offer him and his injury record was poor. Dreadful decision-making in some ways but based on his injuries we had to say goodbye. Bojan, sadly, looks like he's completely lost it. He had a home at Stoke more than at any other club but Hughes decided he was no longer a worthy starter. I still think a new manager may bring him back. I haven't given up on him just yet.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 8, 2018 11:47:43 GMT
Bojan and Muni will end up in the Spanish second and Imbula will be stacking boxes in a warehouse I think you mean living on a yacht in Monte Carlo counting his money.
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 8, 2018 11:55:02 GMT
Muniesta, is that a crazy hybrid of Muni and Iniesta 🤔 Could be quite a player that If we are combining Muni and Andres to create the perfect player then the letters in the combined name should reflect the proportions you want from each player. So I'd call him Iniesta
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 11:56:35 GMT
Bojan and Imbula on long contracts Depending on who comes in obviously. I hope they get a fair crack Someone, somewhere has to get a tune out if Imbula. One day. Here he is in training
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Post by unknown182 on Jan 8, 2018 12:07:22 GMT
I'd bring Muniesa back. Maybe sort out an individual training plan to help with his injuries.
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