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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 22:45:46 GMT
That was obviously going to happen. Chick Bates who is helping out behind the sense now suggested this and I am glad the club have listened! Happy days folks
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 21, 2018 5:27:12 GMT
The first 'official' statement that the club believe we'll be relegated.
Speaks volumes.
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Post by mrred on Feb 21, 2018 5:30:29 GMT
Still pondering eh? Doesn't sound like Stoke at all.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 21, 2018 6:36:38 GMT
I'm seriously thinking of getting a season ticket for the first time in a few years now I won't be able to watch it on Starstreams in the Championship.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 21, 2018 8:43:41 GMT
Still pondering eh? Doesn't sound like Stoke at all. I only get excited when we progress from pondering to monitoring.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 21, 2018 10:21:17 GMT
The first 'official' statement that the club believe we'll be relegated. Speaks volumes. Yep, exactly what I thought.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 21, 2018 10:23:22 GMT
Put the tickets on sale at previous seasons prices. In the unlikely chance we are relegated then everyone get a shop voucher for £50. In the likely chance we stay up everyone gets £25 voucher to spend in the shop.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 21, 2018 11:27:19 GMT
Possibly!!!!!;
Avoid Relegation = Increase in price
Relegated = Current prices remain
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Post by maliciousdamage on Feb 21, 2018 12:29:06 GMT
Possibly!!!!!;Avoid Relegation = Increase in price Relegated = Current prices remain If we do stay up they should discount them down after the fiasco of this season, when 95% of fans showed them the way it was going by leaving and not bothering to clap the team at the last home game of last season, that should have told any sensible non complacent board what they should do!!!!!!
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Post by Davef on Feb 21, 2018 12:43:15 GMT
Possibly!!!!!;Avoid Relegation = Increase in price Relegated = Current prices remain If we do stay up they should discount them down after the fiasco of this season, when 95% of fans showed them the way it was going by leaving and not bothering to clap the team at the last home game of last season, that should have told any sensible non complacent board what they should do!!!!!! The club haven't increased season ticket prices for ten years and you want them to reduce the price if we stay in the league because we've had one genuinely bad season?
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 21, 2018 13:23:00 GMT
If we do stay up they should discount them down after the fiasco of this season, when 95% of fans showed them the way it was going by leaving and not bothering to clap the team at the last home game of last season, that should have told any sensible non complacent board what they should do!!!!!! The club haven't increased season ticket prices for ten years and you want them to reduce the price if we stay in the league because we've had one genuinely bad season? You could argue they should reduce the prices based on the fact the amount of tv money has now reached extraordinary and quite ridicululous levels. Ticket prices no longer mean that much to the club, but mean a lot to working class folk.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 21, 2018 13:25:00 GMT
To me tbe cost of watching Stoke is no different than paying for gas, electricity, water etc It's just something you do. So does it really matter what league we are in and who we play against? It will sort out the wheat from the chaff if we do go down, and the knicker wetters will have a field day. But still loads to play for, and Ive just booked a hotel in Swansea for our staying up party game!
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Post by mrred on Feb 21, 2018 13:51:40 GMT
To me tbe cost of watching Stoke is no different than paying for gas, electricity, water etc It's just something you do. So does it really matter what league we are in and who we play against? It will sort out the wheat from the chaff if we do go down, and the knicker wetters will have a field day. But still loads to play for, and Ive just booked a hotel in Swansea for our staying up party game! I'm not necessarily saying you're doing this but I've never understood the mentality of people that will on us playing in front of about 15,000. It's shit. On a more serious note, it wouldn't surprise me to see people that have done nothing to deserve it potentially losing their jobs. Not just in the club either.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 21, 2018 13:58:22 GMT
There are a lot of people thinking of not renewing if we go down. Many of those do it early. If they start the early bird now and sales slide they may struggle to sell more on general. It makes sense to hold on a few weeks
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Post by reddipotter on Feb 21, 2018 13:59:52 GMT
I don't quite understand this. I can't see them raising prices after all these years if we stay up, so presumably they are contemplating reducing them if we go down. But you get more games in the championship, so they'd be justified in keeping the prices steady.
More likely they think too many people won't renew at all with the current uncertainty.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Feb 21, 2018 14:32:34 GMT
The club haven't increased season ticket prices for ten years and you want them to reduce the price if we stay in the league because we've had one genuinely bad season? You could argue they should reduce the prices based on the fact the amount of tv money has now reached extraordinary and quite ridicululous levels. Ticket prices no longer mean that much to the club, but mean a lot to working class folk. My thoughts exactly they aren’t going to miss the money what’s more important is getting bums on seats irrespective of what division we are in. Even if we stay up we’ve got to look at ways of galvanising our fan base which I believe has become disillusioned with events over the last 12-18 months they may well say enoughs enough knocking a bit off season tickets should entice people to say ‘sod it’ I’ll get one and start to try to pack out he Stadium each game.
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Post by alster on Feb 21, 2018 14:40:44 GMT
To me tbe cost of watching Stoke is no different than paying for gas, electricity, water etc It's just something you do. So does it really matter what league we are in and who we play against? It will sort out the wheat from the chaff if we do go down, and the knicker wetters will have a field day. But still loads to play for, and Ive just booked a hotel in Swansea for our staying up party game! I'm not necessarily saying you're doing this but I've never understood the mentality of people that will on us playing in front of about 15,000. It's shit. On a more serious note, it wouldn't surprise me to see people that have done nothing to deserve it potentially losing their jobs. Not just in the club either. Super Fan mentality. They're a better fan than the rest so they'd rather the stadium was half empty and get rid of those who can take it or leave it so they can dream of success that see's them come back. Thick or what?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 21, 2018 14:56:06 GMT
Just hold the prices again and get them on sale whilst we still have a chance of playing Premier League football next season.
Not much to think about really is there.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 21, 2018 15:02:58 GMT
I'm not necessarily saying you're doing this but I've never understood the mentality of people that will on us playing in front of about 15,000. It's shit. On a more serious note, it wouldn't surprise me to see people that have done nothing to deserve it potentially losing their jobs. Not just in the club either. Super Fan mentality. They're a better fan than the rest so they'd rather the stadium was half empty and get rid of those who can take it or leave it so they can dream of success that see's them come back. Thick or what? The way I see it is, I've always supported the club since I can remember, from Division 2 all the way to The Premier League. Because of this I can't get my head around people choosing not to go because we are a lower division, it's still watching Stoke. No agenda against anyone who decides not to renew but for me personally I just don't get it unless reason not relating to football e.g. job, finances etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 15:10:51 GMT
Not me.... I’ve heard and seen all I need to know about our ambition
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Post by stantheman on Feb 21, 2018 15:20:13 GMT
I'm not necessarily saying you're doing this but I've never understood the mentality of people that will on us playing in front of about 15,000. It's shit. On a more serious note, it wouldn't surprise me to see people that have done nothing to deserve it potentially losing their jobs. Not just in the club either. Super Fan mentality. They're a better fan than the rest so they'd rather the stadium was half empty and get rid of those who can take it or leave it so they can dream of success that see's them come back. Thick or what? Super Fan? Does watching us play in 3 differnt divisons, home and away, for over 40 years make me thick? Jog on with your inferiority complex.
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Post by alster on Feb 21, 2018 15:35:15 GMT
Super Fan mentality. They're a better fan than the rest so they'd rather the stadium was half empty and get rid of those who can take it or leave it so they can dream of success that see's them come back. Thick or what? The way I see it is, I've always supported the club since I can remember, from Division 2 all the way to The Premier League. Because of this I can't get my head around people choosing not to go because we are a lower division, it's still watching Stoke. No agenda against anyone who decides not to renew but for me personally I just don't get it unless reason not relating to football e.g. job, finances etc. There's a difference between not understanding why anyone wouldn't renew and as some do reveling in seeing a reduction in our support because they think they're a better class of fan than fairweather/JCL/Premier League/newer fans and how good it will be to get rid of them. Then they'll pine for success to bring them all back they're just stupid. I've done the same journey as you League One with Lou League One with Gudjon all the way to the Prem but I definitely don't think of myself as a super fan. Probably the opposite because I'm not a vocal fan I don't create any atmosphere as such mainly quietly watch the game applauding a goal and good play but these morons think fans like me didn't exist before the Premier League everyone was singing, shouting and bleeding red and white, its a complete fantasy. I've seen good seasons and bad in each of the 3 divisions I've watched us play in, my favorite season bar non was the League One title under Macari. I feel the fans have been badly let down by the club. If they choose for whatever reason not to renew I'll respect their decision and hope the club gives them a reason to want to return as soon as possible because that's what you want if you are a supporter success and the club doing well and attracting more fans new and old. These Super Fans really aren't very super at all they want what makes them feel most comfortable above and beyond what's best for the club.
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Post by alster on Feb 21, 2018 15:37:52 GMT
Super Fan mentality. They're a better fan than the rest so they'd rather the stadium was half empty and get rid of those who can take it or leave it so they can dream of success that see's them come back. Thick or what? Super Fan? Does watching us play in 3 differnt divisons, home and away, for over 40 years make me thick? Jog on with your inferiority complex. No its your post that makes you thick not what divisions you've attended Stoke games in.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 21, 2018 16:02:34 GMT
The way I see it is, I've always supported the club since I can remember, from Division 2 all the way to The Premier League. Because of this I can't get my head around people choosing not to go because we are a lower division, it's still watching Stoke. No agenda against anyone who decides not to renew but for me personally I just don't get it unless reason not relating to football e.g. job, finances etc. There's a difference between not understanding why anyone wouldn't renew and as some do reveling in seeing a reduction in our support because they think they're a better class of fan than fairweather/JCL/Premier League/newer fans and how good it will be to get rid of them. Then they'll pine for success to bring them all back they're just stupid. I've done the same journey as you League One with Lou League One with Gudjon all the way to the Prem but I definitely don't think of myself as a super fan. Probably the opposite because I'm not a vocal fan I don't create any atmosphere as such mainly quietly watch the game applauding a goal and good play but these morons think fans like me didn't exist before the Premier League everyone was singing, shouting and bleeding red and white, its a complete fantasy. I've seen good seasons and bad in each of the 3 divisions I've watched us play in, my favorite season bar non was the League One title under Macari. I feel the fans have been badly let down by the club. If they choose for whatever reason not to renew I'll respect their decision and hope the club gives them a reason to want to return as soon as possible because that's what you want if you are a supporter success and the club doing well and attracting more fans new and old. These Super Fans really aren't very super at all they want what makes them feel most comfortable above and beyond what's best for the club. Wow, your life as a fan, but not a 'super fan'. Your opinion that anyone who has supported the through thick and thin must be revelling in the fact that the the club is struggling is utter horse shit. My 1st year of having a season ticket saw us win 3 matches in the entire season. I've had a season ticket ever since. So your self righteous drivel regarding superfans is making me laugh so much it's dribbling down my leg.....
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Post by Cast no shadow on Feb 21, 2018 16:16:22 GMT
Whats all the fuss about?
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Post by dadofsam on Feb 21, 2018 16:40:16 GMT
Why should we pay the same, let alone more, for a lower quality product.
OK I get that there are more games but I'd be willing to bet that most people will miss a good few of the midweek ones.
If we go down prices should be reduced.
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Post by dadofsam on Feb 21, 2018 16:42:20 GMT
I'd also be interested to learn if the pay and benefits of senior non-playing staff was being adjusted if we get relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 16:51:22 GMT
Chic Bates is positive that price will go up whichever league we are in. The spin will be that if we go down we are getting more games for our money and if we stay up after 10 years it is fair to raise them. Although not by much there will still be a rise.
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Post by stokecity4life on Feb 21, 2018 16:58:01 GMT
I`ll watch stoke week in week out regardless so yep i will be along with my family.
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Post by alster on Feb 21, 2018 17:10:11 GMT
There's a difference between not understanding why anyone wouldn't renew and as some do reveling in seeing a reduction in our support because they think they're a better class of fan than fairweather/JCL/Premier League/newer fans and how good it will be to get rid of them. Then they'll pine for success to bring them all back they're just stupid. I've done the same journey as you League One with Lou League One with Gudjon all the way to the Prem but I definitely don't think of myself as a super fan. Probably the opposite because I'm not a vocal fan I don't create any atmosphere as such mainly quietly watch the game applauding a goal and good play but these morons think fans like me didn't exist before the Premier League everyone was singing, shouting and bleeding red and white, its a complete fantasy. I've seen good seasons and bad in each of the 3 divisions I've watched us play in, my favorite season bar non was the League One title under Macari. I feel the fans have been badly let down by the club. If they choose for whatever reason not to renew I'll respect their decision and hope the club gives them a reason to want to return as soon as possible because that's what you want if you are a supporter success and the club doing well and attracting more fans new and old. These Super Fans really aren't very super at all they want what makes them feel most comfortable above and beyond what's best for the club. Wow, your life as a fan, but not a 'super fan'. Your opinion that anyone who has supported the through thick and thin must be revelling in the fact that the the club is struggling is utter horse shit. My 1st year of having a season ticket saw us win 3 matches in the entire season. I've had a season ticket ever since. So your self righteous drivel regarding superfans is making me laugh so much it's dribbling down my leg..... No not everyone who's supported through thick and thin just numpties like you "sort the wheat from the chaff", get rid of the plastic fans, JCL's then it will just be us Super Fans together. Its utter bollocks always was always will be. Me I'll be there and gagging for them all to come back not because I want them to be like me, behave like me or keep me company, just because that means the club will be doing well and I'll be watching better football. Anyway you need to make your mind up how long you've been going through thick and thin because the 3 wins was 84/85 yet in an earlier post you had been a stalwart for over 40 years. I've not even been regular for quite 40 years yet my first ST was 78/79.
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