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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 9:34:32 GMT
The trouble with the January transfer window the clubs we are dealing with know just how much trouble we are in and will have us over a barrel on transfer fees. The players know the trouble we are in and have us over a barrel for wages, signing on fees and clauses etc. I feel it would cost a fortune to get a mediocre player through the doors so let's hope that there are massive amounts of funds available to get us out of the hole we find ourselves in. Add the fact that if we get the players we need we also need a manager who knows what to do with them which Isn't Hughes Agreed and the family will have to spend unprecedented amounts of cash. We will be talking upwards of 20M per head for the quality required, of which we need a minimum of three. Get in the real world you don't get outstanding Premier league players for £20M. Swansea were willing to pay £25M for Joe Allen and ended up paying £15M for Sam fucking Clucas. They're both ok just about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 9:35:59 GMT
Agreed and the family will have to spend unprecedented amounts of cash. We will be talking upwards of 20M per head for the quality required, of which we need a minimum of three. Get in the real world you don't get outstanding Premier league players for £20M. I'd settle for three average ones to get us through to the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 9:44:41 GMT
We may also have a challenge re retaining Shaqiri and keeping him motivated If Shaqiri has any sense he will stay until the summer, he is playing every game and needs guaranteed first team football in a top league to ensure he is ready for the World Cup where he can shine and earn himself a big transfer in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 9:47:39 GMT
As for the January window I doubt we will spend big, I’d be content with a solid RB and another DM. I can’t see us bringing in a striker, not one who would actually improve us unless there is BIG money to spend.
We have the players for a 4-2-3-1, better to revert to that and give up this 5 at the back experiment for now.
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Post by mrred on Dec 20, 2017 9:49:21 GMT
"There are funds available"- read as they're going to preemptively spend the money we get for Shaqiri. Zing.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 20, 2017 9:51:12 GMT
After getting rid of the supposed dead wood in the summer we now need to replace the deadwood we signed in the summer plus full backs and a proper goal scorer, not going to happen.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 20, 2017 9:53:13 GMT
Do we think the phrasing 'our manager' in the piece was deliberate?
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:15 GMT
As for the January window I doubt we will spend big, I’d be content with a solid RB and another DM. I can’t see us bringing in a striker, not one who would actually improve us unless there is BIG money to spend. We have the players for a 4-2-3-1, better to revert to that and give up this 5 at the back experiment for now. I agree 4231 works best with our players, by the way there isn't supposed to be a 5 at the back experiment he tried to copy Chelsea who's wingbacks are in no way shape or form defenders and didn't have the players to do it.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:46 GMT
We might just about get by with a new central midfielder and a winger to replace Jese. However, this would put Cameron or Zouma at right back. We really need to become harder to beat/break down so a solid wall of four and three in front (New defensive midfielder plus Cameron/Fletcher/Afellay with Allen may give us more stability. Jese has flown the coop you'd have thought but I don't think Ramadan is ready for a relegation battle. We need to get nasty and physical. Diouf up front with Choupo and Shaq is our best option and we might draft in another forward if Jese goes. Let's be realistic, four new starters aren't going to come in anytime soon.
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Post by jarvinski on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:53 GMT
They are surely not going to give this idiot money to spend, you couldn’t make it up!
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 9:59:22 GMT
We might just about get by with a new central midfielder and a winger to replace Jese. However, this would put Cameron or Zouma at right back. We really need to become harder to beat/break down so a solid wall of four and three in front (New defensive midfielder plus Cameron/Fletcher/Afellay with Allen may give us more stability. Jese has flown the coop you'd have thought but I don't think Ramadan is ready for a relegation battle. We need to get nasty and physical. Diouf up front with Choupo and Shaq is our best option and we might draft in another forward if Jese goes. Let's be realistic, four new starters aren't going to come in anytime soon. Wow you want to get nasty and physical and then replace Ramadan with Choupo who despite being a big lad is about as nasty and physical as the insides of a walnut whip.
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 10:00:43 GMT
They are surely not going to give this idiot money to spend, you couldn’t make it up! Well if they won't sack the fucker like they should is there an alternative?
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Post by knightonstokie on Dec 20, 2017 10:06:07 GMT
As for the January window I doubt we will spend big, I’d be content with a solid RB and another DM. I can’t see us bringing in a striker, not one who would actually improve us unless there is BIG money to spend. We have the players for a 4-2-3-1, better to revert to that and give up this 5 at the back experiment for now. But how much do you think just two players will cost us? Selling club will bump up the price due to our position, I think we will have to spend big just to get the bare minimum in. That is without taking into account our transfer teams ability or lack of.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 20, 2017 10:10:13 GMT
The primary one being, how the fuck as Cartwright still got a job? Don't get me wrong I'd get rid of the lot just to be sure but how can you be so certain he's shit. We've had good players in for talks who've gone elsewhere and done well, maybe they were his picks. Given our club is so secretive about exactly who is responsible for what its really difficult to pin down who's most responsible for the shit show that is our squad. At least we can say for sure that Hughes deserves to be sacked for tactics, selection and game management alone. He was brought in with a brief to improve our recruitment. Four years later, that can be seen as a complete failure. He has to go.
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 10:12:58 GMT
Don't get me wrong I'd get rid of the lot just to be sure but how can you be so certain he's shit. We've had good players in for talks who've gone elsewhere and done well, maybe they were his picks. Given our club is so secretive about exactly who is responsible for what its really difficult to pin down who's most responsible for the shit show that is our squad. At least we can say for sure that Hughes deserves to be sacked for tactics, selection and game management alone. He was brought in with a brief to improve our recruitment. Four years later, that can be seen as a complete failure. He has to go. You're very good at jumping to conclusions they might all be stellar performers Coates might be the real problem. Only way to be sure is a clean sweep of the fucking lot of them.
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Post by knightonstokie on Dec 20, 2017 10:13:42 GMT
Don't get me wrong I'd get rid of the lot just to be sure but how can you be so certain he's shit. We've had good players in for talks who've gone elsewhere and done well, maybe they were his picks. Given our club is so secretive about exactly who is responsible for what its really difficult to pin down who's most responsible for the shit show that is our squad. At least we can say for sure that Hughes deserves to be sacked for tactics, selection and game management alone. He was brought in with a brief to improve our recruitment. Four years later, that can be seen as a complete failure. He has to go. Be fair he seems ok at the pizza order
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 10:18:00 GMT
He was brought in with a brief to improve our recruitment. Four years later, that can be seen as a complete failure. He has to go. Be fair he seems ok at the pizza order Dunno doesn't look like he's very good at sharing.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 20, 2017 10:20:21 GMT
We might just about get by with a new central midfielder and a winger to replace Jese. However, this would put Cameron or Zouma at right back. We really need to become harder to beat/break down so a solid wall of four and three in front (New defensive midfielder plus Cameron/Fletcher/Afellay with Allen may give us more stability. Jese has flown the coop you'd have thought but I don't think Ramadan is ready for a relegation battle. We need to get nasty and physical. Diouf up front with Choupo and Shaq is our best option and we might draft in another forward if Jese goes. Let's be realistic, four new starters aren't going to come in anytime soon. Wow you want to get nasty and physical and then replace Ramadan with Choupo who despite being a big lad is about as nasty and physical as the insides of a walnut whip. Then we sign a better player to replace Jese and start him. Ramadan doesn't have the wherewithal to battle this shitstorm out. Choupo is a better player. Christ, Shaq isn't exactly The Punisher. Why split hairs when we're all trying to suggest options without buying a whole new team.
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2017 10:21:15 GMT
We have to spend money,lots of it, even if Coates intends replacing Hughes in May.
If we sack Hughes before January we still have to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 10:21:37 GMT
1- I can’t see Coates spending big and 2- I cant see big bucks players wanting to come to stoke (especially in the state we are in right now)
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Post by thehoof on Dec 20, 2017 10:24:35 GMT
We need 3 defenders alongside Zouma when fit New right and left back and Bruno once fit again. We need to face the fact that Shawcross is no longer one of our best two centre halves. While you may be right Bruno has not covered himself in glory in the few appearances he's made. We'd have gone mad if Adam came back having accumulated the timber that Martins Indi is carrying.
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 10:27:23 GMT
Wow you want to get nasty and physical and then replace Ramadan with Choupo who despite being a big lad is about as nasty and physical as the insides of a walnut whip. Then we sign a better player to replace Jese and start him. Ramadan doesn't have the wherewithal to battle this shitstorm out. Choupo is a better player. Christ, Shaq isn't exactly The Punisher. Why split hairs when we're all trying to suggest options without buying a whole new team. The only thing Coupo has on Ramadan for me is end product and he's had a lot more minutes to produce that. I don't agree that Choupo is a better player or more suited to a battle like I've said for his size I think he's a bit of a pussy. Shaq is without doubt a luxury but we need to retain some creativity don't we can't see where else its going to come from.
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 20, 2017 10:32:47 GMT
The busiest teams in last years January window all got relegated apart from Palace who are still struggling now.
It's going be a long 5 months.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Dec 20, 2017 10:41:46 GMT
Lets see last window wba offloaded another dud in fletcher,choupo is what he has been thoughout his carrear a free transfer.jese another signed on past reputation another to join the list of non scoring forwards under this management. The other point is who exactly would want to sign for a club near relegation with our management and a chairman who seems to be living in the past and in total denial
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Post by alster on Dec 20, 2017 10:52:53 GMT
Lets see last window wba offloaded another dud in fletcher,choupo is what he has been thoughout his carrear a free transfer.jese another signed on past reputation another to join the list of non scoring forwards under this management. The other point is who exactly would want to sign for a club near relegation with our management and a chairman who seems to be living in the past and in total denial Ranging from most to some players in the following fields: who aren't being selected by their current team, have no security of a contract beyond the Summer, have not yet had an opportunity to play Premier League football, who stand to benefit from a large salary increase, who think they have a better chance of first team football thereby putting themselves in the shop window(loans). In short quite a lot, now the difficult task are any of them good enough doesn't really matter whether we're sure or not we've got to do something to try to break the cycle.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 20, 2017 11:04:41 GMT
Can we get Muni back and fuck Wimmer off? That would be a start
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Post by rawli on Dec 20, 2017 11:20:39 GMT
Can we get Muni back and fuck Wimmer off? That would be a start I can hear the ping of hamstrings as we speak.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 20, 2017 11:22:53 GMT
I wonder which pile of shite Daniel Levy is looking to pawn off in January?
Im sure we will snap his hand off for a 15M pound reserve player
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Dec 20, 2017 11:42:02 GMT
But this is another shit quote and wank pr from the club.. Remember Hughes a few weeks ago saying that we'll be quiet and won't be doing much business in January ! Coates runs the club. End of.
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Post by riproaring on Dec 20, 2017 11:46:00 GMT
Be fair he seems ok at the pizza order Dunno doesn't look like he's very good at sharing. Are these Hughes signings or Cartwright and Co, I am beginning to think lattter by Hughes comments Saido and Wimmer
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