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Post by adi on Dec 3, 2017 0:29:36 GMT
Ideally He needs replacing Works hard but isn’t really good enough. I’d prefer someone like Robertson but you get what you pay for I suppose
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 4:21:23 GMT
The whole crowd are a fucki*ng disgrace, the atmosphere now to what it was a few years ago is absolutely awful !! It’s easy to sit here slagging the team off but bloody hell at least give them half a chance and get behind them!!! Women, kids, JCL's and nu fans. That's what you end up with - no passion no aggression no fight no fire.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 3, 2017 7:50:00 GMT
And you expect the idiots in our crowd to recognise That? 30 seconds before they'd abused him for trying to thread the ball through the eye of a needle and giving it away. Then they abuse him for keeping the ball. He can't win with these wankers no matter what he does. He tucked inside to cover an absent BMI at one point and was abused for "supposedly being a full back, where the fuck are you". You won't be surprised to learn that the same tossers said nothing about zouma being inside all fucking game long. Wankers! Makes me laugh that you will go to obscene lengths to defend one of the wankest full backs this division has ever seen. Well he played well yesterday and despite the ridiculous barracking, it was his tackling that brought the crowd to their feet. He never hid and played like a leader he is.
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Post by adi on Dec 3, 2017 8:05:11 GMT
The question is why was he getting grief if he was playing so well? I didn’t boo or abuse him but I was talking to the guys around me and the general consensus was that we needed an upgrade, that he was generally poor and that with a slightly better option we would have a greatly improved side.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Dec 3, 2017 9:04:56 GMT
Thought Erik was very good 2nd half. He has made errors but to boo him is shocking . He always gives his all and shows his appreciation to the fans at the end of every game. I think it is wrong to boo any of your own players
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 3, 2017 9:32:43 GMT
I don't think too much should be read into it - crowd were just tense and reeling having gone 1'down to a pretty appalling team and were looking for a reaction - for any of his faults we cannot fault his commitment and I think he just got it in the neck for the whole team at that point in the game. I thought he and the rest of the team showed great character in coming back and securing the three points and I'm enjoying my weekend as a result!!
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Dec 3, 2017 9:51:02 GMT
He still walked around every corner as he always does at full time - true pro, he is frustrating sometimes but he was absolutely solid in the 2nd half
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 3, 2017 10:02:50 GMT
I’m not his biggest fan, however he didn’t deserve that.
He was much better in the second half, his problem is he can’t play the position he’s being asked.
In a Pulis team the guy would be incredible as defensively he’s brilliant.
I actually think he’d be a better LCB in a 3.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Dec 3, 2017 10:07:41 GMT
I actually think he’d be a better LCB in a 3. Which is why sadly I think Wimmer was the wrong way to spend £18mil I think Wimmer will end up being a good player for the club, but we could have got a very good RWB or CM with that money.
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 11:22:11 GMT
I actually think he’d be a better LCB in a 3. Which is why sadly I think Wimmer was the wrong way to spend £18mil I think Wimmer will end up being a good player for the club, but we could have got a very good RWB or CM with that money. What attributes have you seen in Wimmer to make you believe he's going to be a good player for the club? Which other top flight centre halves have you seen who are not good in the air or good at covering the ground, they're normally good at one or the other. The best are good at both, Wimmer is good at neither.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 3, 2017 11:23:20 GMT
Booing your own players is wholly unacceptable. How to motivate someone eh? Fucking wank fans, who need to stay away from our club. They must have felt like real twats after his second half performance.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 3, 2017 11:30:28 GMT
Who booed Eric Pieter's you're a fucking disgrace I was going title the thread to all the supporters who...but I couldn't class you as that because you are not Fuck off. He's been shit and deserves to be told. He actually did alright today and responded well to the criticism You're a fucking prick mate. Pleased that you don't sit anywhere near me. Embarrassing.
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 11:30:39 GMT
Booing your own players is wholly unacceptable. How to motivate someone eh? Fucking wank fans, who need to stay away from our club. They must have felt like real twats after his second half performance. What makes it more yours than their's? He's a top bloke, he never hides no matter how many mistakes he makes. By rights he shouldn't have been playing, what sort of meritocracy rewards consistent costly mistakes with consistent selection its unhealthy.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 3, 2017 11:38:46 GMT
Fuck off. He's been shit and deserves to be told. He actually did alright today and responded well to the criticism You're a fucking prick mate. Pleased that you don't sit anywhere near me. Embarrassing. Exactly mate. If he stood by me and did that I'd launch him head first in the away end next to me.
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Post by mozzer on Dec 3, 2017 11:46:22 GMT
Which is why sadly I think Wimmer was the wrong way to spend £18mil I think Wimmer will end up being a good player for the club, but we could have got a very good RWB or CM with that money. What attributes have you seen in Wimmer to make you believe he's going to be a good player for the club? Which other top flight centre halves have you seen who are not good in the air or good at covering the ground, they're normally good at one or the other. The best are good at both, Wimmer is good at neither. Yeh your right Alster, perhaps a good round of singleing him out and booing him will also improve his game.....its the done thing now down at Stoke and totally acceptable in some peoples eyes
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Post by Godo on Dec 3, 2017 11:54:55 GMT
I'm not Pieters biggest fan, for a defender of his experience I can't believe how often he gets caught ball watching, but people who boo their own players are post Sky mardarse wankers with the same bizarre sense of entitlement as the qunts ruining the country. In what reality would booing someone ever motivate or improve them?
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Dec 3, 2017 11:55:11 GMT
Which is why sadly I think Wimmer was the wrong way to spend £18mil I think Wimmer will end up being a good player for the club, but we could have got a very good RWB or CM with that money. What attributes have you seen in Wimmer to make you believe he's going to be a good player for the club? Which other top flight centre halves have you seen who are not good in the air or good at covering the ground, they're normally good at one or the other. The best are good at both, Wimmer is good at neither. I think at his best he looks relatively powerful and reasonably quick. He clears a ball decently. He also distrobutes the ball well and looks to have good passing, perhaps better than the other CB's we have with the exception of Bruno. With a bit more composure and confidence which will hopefuly come with time and games I think he will partner well with a natural destroyer type CB. He is very much a ball playing defender though and the problem for him is that Bruno is better in every aspect of defending while also being a better passer of the ball.
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 12:04:35 GMT
What attributes have you seen in Wimmer to make you believe he's going to be a good player for the club? Which other top flight centre halves have you seen who are not good in the air or good at covering the ground, they're normally good at one or the other. The best are good at both, Wimmer is good at neither. Yeh your right Alster, perhaps a good round of singleing him out and booing him will also improve his game.....its the done thing now down at Stoke and totally acceptable in some peoples eyes So does that basically means you can see he's lacking attributes you'd normally associate with a good centre half but can't bring yourself to admit it. Blind hope.
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 12:06:00 GMT
What attributes have you seen in Wimmer to make you believe he's going to be a good player for the club? Which other top flight centre halves have you seen who are not good in the air or good at covering the ground, they're normally good at one or the other. The best are good at both, Wimmer is good at neither. I think at his best he looks relatively powerful and reasonably quick. He clears a ball decently. He also distrobutes the ball well and looks to have good passing, perhaps better than the other CB's we have with the exception of Bruno. With a bit more composure and confidence which will hopefuly come with time and games I think he will partner well with a natural destroyer type CB. He is very much a ball playing defender though and the problem for him is that Bruno is better in every aspect of defending while also being a better passer of the ball. Quick you're having a laugh he's quick in neither foot nor mind.
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 3, 2017 12:19:28 GMT
I wonder who completed more passes than any other Stoke player yesterday ?
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Post by mozzer on Dec 3, 2017 12:21:54 GMT
Yeh your right Alster, perhaps a good round of singleing him out and booing him will also improve his game.....its the done thing now down at Stoke and totally acceptable in some peoples eyes So does that basically means you can see he's lacking attributes you'd normally associate with a good centre half but can't bring yourself to admit it. Blind hope. Not said I rate him anywhere, he is an average centre half.....but he is a stoke player and I will not boo him no matter what he is playing like
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 12:28:48 GMT
So does that basically means you can see he's lacking attributes you'd normally associate with a good centre half but can't bring yourself to admit it. Blind hope. Not said I rate him anywhere, he is an average centre half.....but he is a stoke player and I will not boo him no matter what he is playing like I've not mentioned booing him or anyone else. I've mentioned him not having the attributes you expect of a centre half most of who are either good in the air or good at covering the ground and observed that Wimmer is neither therefore I find it hard to envisage him being a good player for us as the poster who I quoted had said.
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Post by mozzer on Dec 3, 2017 12:59:28 GMT
Not said I rate him anywhere, he is an average centre half.....but he is a stoke player and I will not boo him no matter what he is playing like I've not mentioned booing him or anyone else. I've mentioned him not having the attributes you expect of a centre half most of who are either good in the air or good at covering the ground and observed that Wimmer is neither therefore I find it hard to envisage him being a good player for us as the poster who I quoted had said. So what's your point What's the connection on this thread then Where's the similarity between him and Eric Why bring Whimmer in to a thread on dogs abuse on a player who looks to be struggling
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Post by simple on Dec 3, 2017 13:18:29 GMT
Booing your own players is a disgrace,if a player is having a poor game he needs support,and it’s the Managers call if he plays or not.Majority of fans have not kicked a ball so they don’t even understand the pressures you are under on the pitch,getting booted only makes you more anxious .Would you like be booed if you made a mistake or were not performing on the job.
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 13:24:05 GMT
I've not mentioned booing him or anyone else. I've mentioned him not having the attributes you expect of a centre half most of who are either good in the air or good at covering the ground and observed that Wimmer is neither therefore I find it hard to envisage him being a good player for us as the poster who I quoted had said. So what's your point What's the connection on this thread then Where's the similarity between him and Eric Why bring shimmer in to a thread on dogs abuse on a player who looks to be struggling Maybe you're struggling actually reading the thread, the connection is I was replying to a post that mentioned Wimmer. The similarity is that they have been a dreamteam pairing for making costly mistakes. Like I said I'm not into booing myself but I've got not a major problem when people do it either. You need to be less protective of the poor little mites they take the adulation when they play well I'm afraid they need to be big enough to take some stick when they don't.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 3, 2017 13:29:22 GMT
So what's your point What's the connection on this thread then Where's the similarity between him and Eric Why bring shimmer in to a thread on dogs abuse on a player who looks to be struggling Maybe you're struggling actually reading the thread, the connection is I was replying to a post that mentioned Wimmer. The similarity is that they have been a dreamteam pairing for making costly mistakes. Like I said I'm not into booing myself but I've got not a major problem when people do it either. You need to be less protective of the poor little mites they take the adulation when they play well I'm afraid they need to be big enough to take some stick when they don't. Are you for fucking real Alster? You don't have a problem with fans who boo their team. Pffft.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Dec 3, 2017 13:34:28 GMT
I wonder who completed more passes than any other Stoke player yesterday ? Pieters = 36 Shaqiri = 32 Fletcher = 30 Allen = 29 Zouma = 28 Bruno = 26 Thats our top players by completed passes for the game Edit: Interceptions: Pieters = 5 Allen = 3 Bruno = 2 Moting = 2 Wimmer = 2 Touches Pieters = 77 Zouma = 64 Shaqiri = 58 Allen = 52 Crouch = 51 Shawcross = 41 Fletcher = 40
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 3, 2017 13:35:30 GMT
I wonder who completed more passes than any other Stoke player yesterday ? Pieters = 36 Shaqiri = 32 Fletcher = 30 Allen = 29 Zouma = 28 Bruno = 26 Thats our top players by completed passes for the game 😂
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Dec 3, 2017 13:57:21 GMT
Pieters = 36 Shaqiri = 32 Fletcher = 30 Allen = 29 Zouma = 28 Bruno = 26 Thats our top players by completed passes for the game 😂 ???
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Post by alster on Dec 3, 2017 15:32:58 GMT
Maybe you're struggling actually reading the thread, the connection is I was replying to a post that mentioned Wimmer. The similarity is that they have been a dreamteam pairing for making costly mistakes. Like I said I'm not into booing myself but I've got not a major problem when people do it either. You need to be less protective of the poor little mites they take the adulation when they play well I'm afraid they need to be big enough to take some stick when they don't. Are you for fucking real Alster? You don't have a problem with fans who boo their team. Pffft. No don't have a problem with people expressing their displeasure. I'm more part of a collective groan, booing seems like far too much effort.
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