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Post by stokesupporter on Jan 15, 2018 9:33:59 GMT
Exactly my thoughts John. Get him in and give him either an experienced director of football or 2nd in command. McClaren would be my choice for the 2nd in command.Knows the players in the top 2 divisions and is a good coach(though not such a good number 1). If it fails it fails but he must be a better bet than Lambert? That would be fine by me.
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Post by reddipotter on Jan 15, 2018 9:36:08 GMT
As I've said before, give Potter the manager's job and ask 'Arry to pop up a couple of times a week to mentor him. Too imaginative for our board? Keep 'Arry as far away from our club as possible. He's a self-serving scumbag and we've got enough problems as it is. He's also an experienced, successful, tactically astute manager. Okay then, another experienced elder statesman instead. The principle of my suggestion remains.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 15, 2018 9:37:04 GMT
Exactly my thoughts John. Get him in and give him either an experienced director of football or 2nd in command. McClaren would be my choice for the 2nd in command.Knows the players in the top 2 divisions and is a good coach(though not such a good number 1). If it fails it fails but he must be a better bet than Lambert? McLaren is an interesting suggestion. A lousy number 1, but certainly a decent coach (so presumably a good judge of ability?) and has wide experience of the game here and abroad.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 15, 2018 9:37:44 GMT
Exactly my thoughts John. Get him in and give him either an experienced director of football or 2nd in command. McClaren would be my choice for the 2nd in command.Knows the players in the top 2 divisions and is a good coach(though not such a good number 1). If it fails it fails but he must be a better bet than Lambert? McLaren is an interesting suggestion. A lousy number 1, but certainly a decent coach (so presumably a good judge of ability?) and has wide experience of the game here and abroad.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 15, 2018 9:44:23 GMT
I think Potter would have the fans right behind him and is clearly doing very well over there , its just such a difference managing the kind of player he would have at Stoke to players from what is basically a small town club with nothing like the egos and media glare to deal with . If they did give it to him he would good experienced people around him , the McClaren idea is interesting I have nothing against paying a coach well just to be a good coach and have another manager, they can be very different roles depending on the personalities involved but the club will be crapping themselves about relegation now having woken from their slumber and may just be thinking about hoping someone can just keep us up .
Its feels a real mess at the minute
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2018 10:00:47 GMT
Keep 'Arry as far away from our club as possible. He's a self-serving scumbag and we've got enough problems as it is. He's also an experienced, successful, tactically astute manager. Okay then, another experienced elder statesman instead. The principle of my suggestion remains. He didn't seem especially tactically astute in his last two jobs.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 15, 2018 10:17:39 GMT
Any chance of a big "Potter IN!" banner in the away end at Old Trafford tonight?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 15, 2018 10:20:58 GMT
We can certainly chant his name tonight to make the board fully aware of who the supporters are backing.
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Post by reddipotter on Jan 15, 2018 10:22:27 GMT
He's also an experienced, successful, tactically astute manager. Okay then, another experienced elder statesman instead. The principle of my suggestion remains. He didn't seem especially tactically astute in his last two jobs. Paul Merson on A League of Their Own said that Redknapp was the best manager tactically that he had worked with. Much better than Wenger. Still, as I say, another experienced man would do.
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Post by Northy on Jan 15, 2018 10:32:21 GMT
He's had contacts to get players in to win the swedish cup, make it out of a Europa League group, in the qualify rounds they beat galatasary, PAOK, and in the group came 2nd ahead of hertha berlin, and on equal points with group winners Bilbao, so he's got some contacts and tactical nous He has a degree in Social Science and a masters in leadership and emotional intelligence, something that may help to get our players interested again ? That's cup football though, teams can play out of their skin for that. The league is a different proposition entirely. yes it is, and he's done very well at that. 1st season - won 4th division 2nd Season - won 3rd division 3rd-5th season,s 10th, 5th, 2nd and promoted to 1st division 6th season, - 8th & cup win 7th Season, 5th & Europa League not bad going is it ?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2018 10:34:08 GMT
He didn't seem especially tactically astute in his last two jobs. Paul Merson on A League of Their Own said that Redknapp was the best manager tactically that he had worked with. Much better than Wenger. Still, as I say, another experienced man would do. Paul Merson is a man who'd need tactics explaining to him with sock puppets.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2018 10:35:43 GMT
That's cup football though, teams can play out of their skin for that. The league is a different proposition entirely. yes it is, and he's done very well at that. 1st season - won 4th division 2nd Season - won 3rd division 3rd-5th season,s 10th, 5th, 2nd and promoted to 1st division 6th season, - 8th & cup win 7th Season, 5th & Europa League not bad going is it ? I'm not disputing that. As I say, the more I read about him, the more impressed I am. It's light years different from propelling him into a Premier League relegation scrap. We need a bloke with a decent contacts book and some experience of management in a half-decent league. Jokanovic would be my choice.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 15, 2018 10:42:07 GMT
Great story but with regard to 'The English managerial success story shunned by the Premier League' it would take a brave board to hire someone no one has ever heard of from Sweden straight in to the Premier League wouldn't it? I mean can you imagine the fans of Palace, Everton or West Ham on hearing the news? 'And our new manager is Graham Potter'...'Who??!' Errr, any Stoke fan will know he was a player and those that are too young will have read the article, so they will know “who?”. Every single person who has ever achieved anything had to be given a chance at some point.
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Post by Northy on Jan 15, 2018 10:47:24 GMT
yes it is, and he's done very well at that. 1st season - won 4th division 2nd Season - won 3rd division 3rd-5th season,s 10th, 5th, 2nd and promoted to 1st division 6th season, - 8th & cup win 7th Season, 5th & Europa League not bad going is it ? I'm not disputing that. As I say, the more I read about him, the more impressed I am. It's light years different from propelling him into a Premier League relegation scrap. We need a bloke with a decent contacts book and some experience of management in a half-decent league. Jokanovic would be my choice. How do you know he hasn't got a decent contacts book?
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 15, 2018 11:04:56 GMT
Any chance of a big "Potter IN!" banner in the away end at Old Trafford tonight? John, Rob Dorsett has just reported from the stadium that Graham Potter is NOT under any consideration. Reason, lack of experience.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2018 12:05:14 GMT
I'm not disputing that. As I say, the more I read about him, the more impressed I am. It's light years different from propelling him into a Premier League relegation scrap. We need a bloke with a decent contacts book and some experience of management in a half-decent league. Jokanovic would be my choice. How do you know he hasn't got a decent contacts book? I don't. I'm assuming. Based on his career to date. I think it's a reasonable assumption. Doesn't matter now anyway does it?
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Post by Northy on Jan 15, 2018 12:12:19 GMT
How do you know he hasn't got a decent contacts book? I don't. I'm assuming. Based on his career to date. I think it's a reasonable assumption. Doesn't matter now anyway does it? No it doesn't matter anymore, but you post about him not having a decent contacts book when you don't know, his current team isn't full of local swedish playrs, he's got Greeks, Africans (a few), Americans, English, Iranians and Mexicans in his squad, and let's face it, you don't get many Africans thinking about going to northern Sweden for a holiday
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2018 12:20:29 GMT
I don't. I'm assuming. Based on his career to date. I think it's a reasonable assumption. Doesn't matter now anyway does it? No it doesn't matter anymore, but you post about him not having a decent contacts book when you don't know, his current team isn't full of local swedish playrs, he's got Greeks, Africans (a few), Americans, English, Iranians and Mexicans in his squad, and let's face it, you don't get many Africans thinking about going to northern Sweden for a holiday Yeah. I'm sure they're fine for the Swedish league. I don't think I said 'he definitely doesn't have decent contacts', I posed it as a question. I think it's unlikely he's built up the kind of contacts we need for a Premier League relegation battle given his management experience extends to Scandinavia. I might be wrong, but I'd be surprised if he'd managed to build up that sort of network this early in his career. Again, not an unreasonable assumption.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 15, 2018 12:24:22 GMT
Any chance of a big "Potter IN!" banner in the away end at Old Trafford tonight? John, Rob Dorsett has just reported from the stadium that Graham Potter is NOT under any consideration. Reason, lack of experience. Pity!
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jan 15, 2018 12:53:18 GMT
The appointment of Potter would have been extremely risky, if things did not turn out well it's fair to say there would be lots on here accusing the board ( with some justification)of gross negligence.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 15, 2018 13:03:47 GMT
The appointment of Potter would have been extremely risky, if things did not turn out well it's fair to say there would be lots on here accusing the board ( with some justification)of gross negligence. I think it is fair to say that if Lambert's tenure does not turn out well, there will be plenty accusing the board of gross negligence. Of the managers we have admitted we were interested in only Flores seems to have got a fairly universal level of approval. Me? I think Lambert is a rather uninspiring appointment who could, nevertheless, stabilise the ship. I'd rather have gambled on Potter in the hope that he may, if given the chance, make a great, rather than average, manager. If it had gone tits up, I would not have accused the board of negligence and I expect I would have been joined by many Stokies.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jan 15, 2018 13:15:44 GMT
The appointment of Potter would have been extremely risky, if things did not turn out well it's fair to say there would be lots on here accusing the board ( with some justification)of gross negligence. I think it is fair to say that if Lambert's tenure does not turn out well, there will be plenty accusing the board of gross negligence. Of the managers we have admitted we were interested in only Flores seems to have got a fairly universal level of approval. Me? I think Lambert is a rather uninspiring appointment who could, nevertheless, stabilise the ship. I'd rather have gambled on Potter in the hope that he may, if given the chance, make a great, rather than average, manager. If it had gone tits up, I would not have accused the board of negligence and I expect I would have been joined by many Stokies. I can't say I'm overly impressed with the appointment of Lambert either, but given the choice between him and Potter , I'd have to say that in terms of preserving our Premiership status, Lambert is more likely to achieve it. I've said on another thread that he is well capable of organising a team(Wolves reserves last season FA cup) and that is exactly what we need right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2018 18:58:04 GMT
Not Graham Potter related but a similar sort of theme..... James O'Connor has won the USL league managing Louisville City last night. I've watched them quite a bit since their inception and he's done really well. Every season he seems to lose half his team and then rebuilds it and his sides have a good balance about them between attack and defence. I hope he can get a job in the MLS/Football League soon. Yay!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 29, 2018 19:33:51 GMT
Not Graham Potter related but a similar sort of theme..... James O'Connor has won the USL league managing Louisville City last night. I've watched them quite a bit since their inception and he's done really well. Every season he seems to lose half his team and then rebuilds it and his sides have a good balance about them between attack and defence. I hope he can get a job in the MLS/Football League soon. Yay! Fair play Bayern. Quite how you can get to see quite a bit of Louisville City is anyone's guess but fair play. However, if you have a girlfriend, I pity the poor lass.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:39:07 GMT
Not Graham Potter related but a similar sort of theme..... James O'Connor has won the USL league managing Louisville City last night. I've watched them quite a bit since their inception and he's done really well. Every season he seems to lose half his team and then rebuilds it and his sides have a good balance about them between attack and defence. I hope he can get a job in the MLS/Football League soon. Yay! You never know, but he may just fancy a return one day if the chance arises. He married a girl that went to my school in Clayton. She might not fancy the return as much though...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2018 19:51:41 GMT
Fair play Bayern. Quite how you can get to see quite a bit of Louisville City is anyone's guess but fair play. However, if you have a girlfriend, I pity the poor lass. It's on YouTube so you can just stream them, it's a poor standard but good fun. And I do, I will send her your pity.
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Post by entropy92 on Jun 29, 2018 20:41:26 GMT
Fair play Bayern. Quite how you can get to see quite a bit of Louisville City is anyone's guess but fair play. However, if you have a girlfriend, I pity the poor lass. It's on YouTube so you can just stream them, it's a poor standard but good fun. And I do, I will send her your pity. I dont think blow up dolls count!
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