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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Nov 8, 2017 15:59:43 GMT
Agreed Gods. He would suit a club in the doldrums in the Championship or League 1, particularly if they had Scandanavian ownership. That probably narrows it down to about zero...
It's one thing coming 5th in a Swedish league and having a run in the Europa. Managing in the Premier League is quite literally a whole different ball game.
I'm a bit of a romantic, but Graham Potter to Stoke is just daft. PC would be more likely to appoint Harry Potter.
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Post by Bagwash on Nov 8, 2017 16:02:10 GMT
TAKEN FROM SENTINEL, am still surprised though that a tiny minority of fans continue to paint a picture that’s way too bleak for me to be comfortable with. To listen to them, you’d think we’re a laughing stock in the Premier League and on the brink of relegation, a club gripped by crisis with a board that has lost the plot. In their world, only the immediate removal of Hughes gives us any hope of saving ourselves. That’s too dramatic a scenario as far as I’m concerned. The facts, both short-term and over a long period, just don’t support that view. We certainly haven’t progressed in the way we would have hoped over the past two seasons, but we remain a solid Premier League outfit and there’s a lot to be said for that, given our size and stature. In the fanzine at the weekend we ran an article which looked back to our first season in the Premier League in 2008 and the clubs who were our top flight rivals that year. Out of 20 clubs, only eight have remained ever since. We’re talking about Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and… STOKE CITY.
While so many other clubs have been relegated and now find themselves languishing in the Championship or worse, it is the “big seven” and the Potters who have remained constant fixtures in the top flight for the past 10 seasons. On top of that, we’ve never really been in a sustained relegation battle and are just about breaking even financially as a club. That’s all pretty remarkable. I am amazed he never mentioned numbnuts or knicker wetters??? I was really surprised and proud when I saw that stat at the weekend. It has been frustrating the last 18 months but nowhere near as bad as some fellow Stokies are suggesting. Imho I might add.
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Post by shangamuzo on Nov 8, 2017 18:41:41 GMT
They may have a recruitement team, but as Harry Truman had on his desk 'the buck stops here'. You may well be right, Pugs, about Peter Coates but a good chairman should have the capacity to spot and back talent. If he doesn't, someone someone-else will and it will be Clubs with this kind of chairman who will reap the rewards. Also Graham Potter would probably be relatively cheap initially, which should appeal to Peter Coates. I doubt Peter Coates would worry too much about an odd million here or there on the mangers salary, the important thing is someone who will keep us up, if we get relegated the £100m per year gravy train will be switched out like a light. At the moment he has a man who has delivered 9th, 9th, 9th and 13th, will he trade that for a fella thriving in the 25th strongest league in the world in Sweden even if he did play 40 odd games for Stoke a quarter of a century ago? I can't see it, it won't happen in a million years, he may have been a contender at the Vale had they not gone for the Aspin/Rudge combo. Not quite. What about parachute payments ?
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Post by Gods on Nov 8, 2017 18:56:04 GMT
I doubt Peter Coates would worry too much about an odd million here or there on the mangers salary, the important thing is someone who will keep us up, if we get relegated the £100m per year gravy train will be switched out like a light. At the moment he has a man who has delivered 9th, 9th, 9th and 13th, will he trade that for a fella thriving in the 25th strongest league in the world in Sweden even if he did play 40 odd games for Stoke a quarter of a century ago? I can't see it, it won't happen in a million years, he may have been a contender at the Vale had they not gone for the Aspin/Rudge combo. Not quite. What about parachute payments ? Yes fair enough, it was a figure of speech really!
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 9, 2017 0:44:38 GMT
TAKEN FROM SENTINEL, am still surprised though that a tiny minority of fans continue to paint a picture that’s way too bleak for me to be comfortable with. To listen to them, you’d think we’re a laughing stock in the Premier League and on the brink of relegation, a club gripped by crisis with a board that has lost the plot. In their world, only the immediate removal of Hughes gives us any hope of saving ourselves. That’s too dramatic a scenario as far as I’m concerned. The facts, both short-term and over a long period, just don’t support that view. We certainly haven’t progressed in the way we would have hoped over the past two seasons, but we remain a solid Premier League outfit and there’s a lot to be said for that, given our size and stature. In the fanzine at the weekend we ran an article which looked back to our first season in the Premier League in 2008 and the clubs who were our top flight rivals that year. Out of 20 clubs, only eight have remained ever since. We’re talking about Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and… STOKE CITY. While so many other clubs have been relegated and now find themselves languishing in the Championship or worse, it is the “big seven” and the Potters who have remained constant fixtures in the top flight for the past 10 seasons. On top of that, we’ve never really been in a sustained relegation battle and are just about breaking even financially as a club. That’s all pretty remarkable. I am amazed he never mentioned numbnuts or knicker wetters??? Teams such as Villa and Sunderland spent a fair old while in the Premier League before they got relegated. It's important to avoid complacency and false feelings of entitlement. We have not been on an upwards curve or even on a level for the last 20 odd months. The situation requires close and on going monitoring, in my opinion.
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 9, 2017 11:31:30 GMT
TAKEN FROM SENTINEL, am still surprised though that a tiny minority of fans continue to paint a picture that’s way too bleak for me to be comfortable with. To listen to them, you’d think we’re a laughing stock in the Premier League and on the brink of relegation, a club gripped by crisis with a board that has lost the plot. In their world, only the immediate removal of Hughes gives us any hope of saving ourselves. That’s too dramatic a scenario as far as I’m concerned. The facts, both short-term and over a long period, just don’t support that view. We certainly haven’t progressed in the way we would have hoped over the past two seasons, but we remain a solid Premier League outfit and there’s a lot to be said for that, given our size and stature. In the fanzine at the weekend we ran an article which looked back to our first season in the Premier League in 2008 and the clubs who were our top flight rivals that year. Out of 20 clubs, only eight have remained ever since. We’re talking about Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham and… STOKE CITY. While so many other clubs have been relegated and now find themselves languishing in the Championship or worse, it is the “big seven” and the Potters who have remained constant fixtures in the top flight for the past 10 seasons. On top of that, we’ve never really been in a sustained relegation battle and are just about breaking even financially as a club. That’s all pretty remarkable. I am amazed he never mentioned numbnuts or knicker wetters??? Teams such as Villa and Sunderland spent a fair old while in the Premier League before they got relegated. It's important to avoid complacency and false feelings of entitlement. We have not been on an upwards curve or even on a level for the last 20 odd months. The situation requires close and on going monitoring, in my opinion. I would strongly suggest that the Coates family are doing that. To be fair i believe there is no complacency, even though spending less than most teams may alter peoples opinions.
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Post by PB1863 on Nov 14, 2017 11:43:35 GMT
Unbelievable . Sparky plays two games in a day
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Post by mozzer on Nov 30, 2017 7:34:36 GMT
It's not the results against teams like Liverpool that should matter, it's the results against the lesser teams that we failed to get that puts pressure on us to perform against and take points of the bigger boys like Liverpool, in my opinion this is eventually the straw that will break the camels back, 3 wins from 14 games is just not acceptable, will Coates trust him with any more of his cash or will he remove him before the window to give a new man time to asses what is required, Lose against Swansea Saturday and I think that unfortunately he may be clearing his desk, can he rescue the situation..i am starting to think not, spurs away after Swansea, the omens are not good for points other than the Swansea game
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 30, 2017 9:14:55 GMT
It's not the results against teams like Liverpool that should matter, it's the results against the lesser teams that we failed to get that puts pressure on us to perform against and take points of the bigger boys like Liverpool, in my opinion this is eventually the straw that will break the camels back, 3 wins from 14 games is just not acceptable, will Coates trust him with any more of his cash or will he remove him before the window to give a new man time to asses what is required, Lose against Swansea Saturday and I think that unfortunately he may be clearing his desk, can he rescue the situation..i am starting to think not, spurs away after Swansea, the omens are not good for points other than the Swansea game good post without disgusting language and not picking individuals out.My problem is, we sack Hughes and don't have a manager for weeks, could be disastrous.
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Post by Stokyo on Nov 30, 2017 9:59:58 GMT
It's not the results against teams like Liverpool that should matter, it's the results against the lesser teams that we failed to get that puts pressure on us to perform against and take points of the bigger boys like Liverpool, in my opinion this is eventually the straw that will break the camels back, 3 wins from 14 games is just not acceptable, will Coates trust him with any more of his cash or will he remove him before the window to give a new man time to asses what is required, Lose against Swansea Saturday and I think that unfortunately he may be clearing his desk, can he rescue the situation..i am starting to think not, spurs away after Swansea, the omens are not good for points other than the Swansea game good post without disgusting language and not picking individuals out.My problem is, we sack Hughes and don't have a manager for weeks, could be disastrous. That should never happen though should it, the upper echelons should always be looking for a replacement in case things go south even when things are going well, when things are going badly (Our last 18 months), their main focus should be lining up possible replacements behind the scenes in case the worst case happens and we have to relinquish Hughes of his duties. If they are sitting behind the scenes with their fingers in their ears, eyes closed humming and wishing for the best then they should be replaced too, it's negligence of the highest order.
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