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Post by fca47 on Nov 22, 2017 19:33:38 GMT
TP never hit the heights but he could pull a team out of a bad run. Pardew is one of those managers who looks good when things are going well, but he can't pull a team out of a slump.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 22, 2017 21:04:30 GMT
If ever an appointment showed the dearth of options for Stoke-type clubs, it's Pards.
Definitely a depressing window of what'd be available to us if the time comes in the near future.
It's the lack of decent options that'll ensure they stick with Hughes at least until the summer
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Post by Davef on Nov 22, 2017 21:06:28 GMT
TP never hit the heights but he could pull a team out of a bad run. Pardew is one of those managers who looks good when things are going well, but he can't pull a team out of a slump. 3 wins out of 28 at West Brom suggests otherwise.
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Post by lloydstevens43 on Nov 22, 2017 23:33:59 GMT
I heard tp after muniesa I'd give muniesa a chance next year cause zouma won't be there next year
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2017 2:22:53 GMT
I heard tp after muniesa I'd give muniesa a chance next year cause zouma won't be there next year zouma won't be there - where? Here? Where did you hear tp after muniesa? where will tp be? You really are fucked up shit.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 23, 2017 3:33:56 GMT
What Barton knows, you could read on the back of a postage stamp! Actually his book is a decent read and his football knowledge pretty impressive and insightful . One interesting pint by Michael Calvin was he researched him extensively within the game and found by far the majority of players he olayed with very complimentary . I haven’t read the book yet but I did listen to an interview with him on the radio when it was first published. He sounded like an intelligent but very complex and conflicted person. He talked about how working on the book was extremely therapeutic, which helps explains his erratic, volatile behavior on the pitch. He’s to be complimented for his willingness to speak up about his emotional problems. Now his playing days are over, I hope he finds a way to stay involved in the game and to occupy his time.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 23, 2017 3:40:36 GMT
Pardew or Pulis that's a bit like choosing between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump! Great analogy! However, it’s not quite as bad as that. The average tenure of a PL manager is about 18 months and that number is skewed by Hughes and Wenger. We were going to be stuck with one or the other for four years and most incumbents are re-elected to a second term. Yikes! Unfortunately, impeachment is much harder and takes a lot longer than firing a PL manager.
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Post by greyman on Nov 23, 2017 6:04:58 GMT
TP never hit the heights but he could pull a team out of a bad run. Pardew is one of those managers who looks good when things are going well, but he can't pull a team out of a slump. 3 wins out of 28 at West Brom suggests otherwise. You have to say it's an odd one. One suspicion I have is that West Brom hit 40 points very quickly last season and, as usual, Tony began to worry about expectations and threw the towel in early and the team has never really recovered. I don't think you could really say that Pulis deliberately throws games - except for Valencia - but he does have a habit of trying to manufacture certain types of games, and I think it's bitten him on the arse this time. I still haven't recovered from a Boxing Day 0-0 against Preston at home in 2004. It was during one of his regular spats with club owners that are also the catalyst for him trying to prove his point on the pitch and fuck the people who pay to watch. It's the game I always bring to mind when somebody suggests that they're surprised at the way he behaves sometimes. There were two away teams on the pitch that day and it's not the only time I've seen him do that.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 6:53:32 GMT
3 wins out of 28 at West Brom suggests otherwise. You have to say it's an odd one. One suspicion I have is that West Brom hit 40 points very quickly last season and, as usual, Tony began to worry about expectations and threw the towel in early and the team has never really recovered. I don't think you could really say that Pulis deliberately throws games - except for Valencia - but he does have a habit of trying to manufacture certain types of games, and I think it's bitten him on the arse this time. I still haven't recovered from a Boxing Day 0-0 against Preston at home in 2004. It was during one of his regular spats with club owners that are also the catalyst for him trying to prove his point on the pitch and fuck the people who pay to watch. It's the game I always bring to mind when somebody suggests that they're surprised at the way he behaves sometimes. There were two away teams on the pitch that day and it's not the only time I've seen him do that. Mmmm I think Rawlins recent book tells us what sort of owners the Icelanders were at this point. I know one of the defences of Bosklump's peculiar Annus Crassus was that he only had 6 players at the start of the next season. Well that was down to the absolute bunch of twats running the club at the time and the way we were being run into the ground.
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Post by lloydstevens43 on Nov 23, 2017 7:10:27 GMT
Think of the profit we made on arnautovic
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2017 7:15:09 GMT
Think of the profit we made on arnautovic What are you on about ?
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Post by lloydstevens43 on Nov 23, 2017 7:18:34 GMT
I heard tp after muniesa I'd give muniesa a chance next year cause zouma won't be there next year zouma won't be there - where? Here? Where did you hear tp after muniesa? where will tp be? You really are fucked up shit. zouma wont be here. tp was after muniesa. we should give him a chance nextyear
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Post by lloydstevens43 on Nov 23, 2017 7:19:59 GMT
Think of the profit we made on arnautovic What are you on about ? arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right
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Post by stokebloke on Nov 23, 2017 7:28:14 GMT
arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right He wasn't a TP signing mate
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Post by milky on Nov 23, 2017 7:29:21 GMT
arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right What the fuck has Pulis got anything to do with Arnie ? Hughes signed him !
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Post by greyman on Nov 23, 2017 9:33:16 GMT
You have to say it's an odd one. One suspicion I have is that West Brom hit 40 points very quickly last season and, as usual, Tony began to worry about expectations and threw the towel in early and the team has never really recovered. I don't think you could really say that Pulis deliberately throws games - except for Valencia - but he does have a habit of trying to manufacture certain types of games, and I think it's bitten him on the arse this time. I still haven't recovered from a Boxing Day 0-0 against Preston at home in 2004. It was during one of his regular spats with club owners that are also the catalyst for him trying to prove his point on the pitch and fuck the people who pay to watch. It's the game I always bring to mind when somebody suggests that they're surprised at the way he behaves sometimes. There were two away teams on the pitch that day and it's not the only time I've seen him do that. Mmmm I think Rawlins recent book tells us what sort of owners the Icelanders were at this point. I know one of the defences of Bosklump's peculiar Annus Crassus was that he only had 6 players at the start of the next season. Well that was down to the absolute bunch of twats running the club at the time and the way we were being run into the ground. The question you need to ask about Pulis is whether he gets away with being a twat because somebody else is a twat. The answer is no, just in case you're struggling. Was just as true at Palace and Gillingham and perhaps West Brom as it was with us.
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Post by alster on Nov 23, 2017 9:42:48 GMT
Mmmm I think Rawlins recent book tells us what sort of owners the Icelanders were at this point. I know one of the defences of Bosklump's peculiar Annus Crassus was that he only had 6 players at the start of the next season. Well that was down to the absolute bunch of twats running the club at the time and the way we were being run into the ground. The question you need to ask about Pulis is whether he gets away with being a twat because somebody else is a twat. The answer is no, just in case you're struggling. Was just as true at Palace and Gillingham and perhaps West Brom as it was with us. I don't think the Icelanders were being twats really their personal wealth had taken a massive hammering and they let the club go at just about the first opportunity they got, unlike Peter Coates Mk1 and nothing like the current Coates family ownership that sees their wealth burgeoning yet very little dividend for the football club.
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2017 9:44:49 GMT
arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right Jesus wept
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 23, 2017 9:48:30 GMT
arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right Are you related to benjy
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 10:04:57 GMT
The question you need to ask about Pulis is whether he gets away with being a twat because somebody else is a twat. The answer is no, just in case you're struggling. Was just as true at Palace and Gillingham and perhaps West Brom as it was with us. I don't think the Icelanders were being twats really their personal wealth had taken a massive hammering and they let the club go at just about the first opportunity they got, unlike Peter Coates Mk1 and nothing like the current Coates family ownership that sees their wealth burgeoning yet very little dividend for the football club. They saw us as a way of winning the lottery and as soon as they found out it wasn't that easy and needed to buy a few more tickets, they let the club rot.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 10:07:24 GMT
Mmmm I think Rawlins recent book tells us what sort of owners the Icelanders were at this point. I know one of the defences of Bosklump's peculiar Annus Crassus was that he only had 6 players at the start of the next season. Well that was down to the absolute bunch of twats running the club at the time and the way we were being run into the ground. The question you need to ask about Pulis is whether he gets away with being a twat because somebody else is a twat. The answer is no, just in case you're struggling. Was just as true at Palace and Gillingham and perhaps West Brom as it was with us. Do we include a newly super minted Peter Coates as acting the twat at this point? You can't really have one without the other.
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Post by greyman on Nov 23, 2017 10:27:25 GMT
The question you need to ask about Pulis is whether he gets away with being a twat because somebody else is a twat. The answer is no, just in case you're struggling. Was just as true at Palace and Gillingham and perhaps West Brom as it was with us. Do we include a newly super minted Peter Coates as acting the twat at this point? You can't really have one without the other. That is what you call a strawman. I've already told you what the answer to the original question is.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 10:35:56 GMT
Do we include a newly super minted Peter Coates as acting the twat at this point? You can't really have one without the other. That is what you call a strawman. I've already told you what the answer to the original question is. No strawman at all. You are talking about a specific time in history where more factors than you'd ever like to admit were at play.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 23, 2017 11:00:40 GMT
zouma won't be there - where? Here? Where did you hear tp after muniesa? where will tp be? You really are fucked up shit. zouma wont be here. tp was after muniesa. we should give him a chance nextyear Have you read his top secret dossier?
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Post by alster on Nov 23, 2017 11:21:05 GMT
I don't think the Icelanders were being twats really their personal wealth had taken a massive hammering and they let the club go at just about the first opportunity they got, unlike Peter Coates Mk1 and nothing like the current Coates family ownership that sees their wealth burgeoning yet very little dividend for the football club. They saw us as a way of winning the lottery and as soon as they found out it wasn't that easy and needed to buy a few more tickets, they let the club rot. You seem to develop your view of world events as if they revolve around Stoke City. The Icelandic consortium members and indeed Iceland as a nation was almost destroyed financially by the global collapse and banking crisis. I expect they were far too busy shitting themselves about what would become of them and their families to give too much of a shit about a football club in another country. They did the decent thing and sold out at the first opportunity as I say unlike Coates Mk1 who was so desperate to keep control that even when he did give it up(didn't have too much choice) he still found a way to exert control(golden share).
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Post by flea79 on Nov 23, 2017 11:27:07 GMT
arnautovic best singing we had cause of the profit we made on him. tp got it right sweet jesus imagine the capped one signing him and his first day at training, "now marko, tell me can you play the mama role?" "say what" "you know work arrrd and head the ball on" "nahhhh not my game that" "what do you do then" "im a skilled winger who can cut in and play upfront If needed" "will you work aard though? will you run like super Jon for me?" "fuck this im off to west ham"
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Post by marwood on Nov 23, 2017 11:28:56 GMT
I heard tp after muniesa I'd give muniesa a chance next year cause zouma won't be there next year Have you stolen a 9 year old boys mobile phone and are randomly cut and pasting the texts verbatim from there? Is this - in fact -your ITK source?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 11:32:37 GMT
They saw us as a way of winning the lottery and as soon as they found out it wasn't that easy and needed to buy a few more tickets, they let the club rot. You seem to develop your view of world events as if they revolve around Stoke City. The Icelandic consortium members and indeed Iceland as a nation was almost destroyed financially by the global collapse and banking crisis. I expect they were far too busy shitting themselves about what would become of them and their families to give too much of a shit about a football club in another country. They did the decent thing and sold out at the first opportunity as I say unlike Coates Mk1 who was so desperate to keep control that even when he did give it up(didn't have too much choice) he still found a way to exert control(golden share). The Icelandic crash happened after they'd left! Magnus and the other one were minted pre crash, they just had no intention of investing any of it in Stoke City once they found out we weren't a winning lottery ticket.
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Post by greyman on Nov 23, 2017 11:49:03 GMT
That is what you call a strawman. I've already told you what the answer to the original question is. No strawman at all. You are talking about a specific time in history where more factors than you'd ever like to admit were at play. We're only talking about one factor. It's a strawman when you suddenly start talking about Peter Coates. Unless Phil Rawlins was calling Coates all the names under the sun in that book? So, yet again. Does the fact you think somebody else was a twat, excuse the fact that Pulis creates these issues wherever he goes? I've already told you the answer. You just need to repeat it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2017 12:02:40 GMT
No strawman at all. You are talking about a specific time in history where more factors than you'd ever like to admit were at play. We're only talking about one factor. It's a strawman when you suddenly start talking about Peter Coates. Unless Phil Rawlins was calling Coates all the names under the sun in that book? So, yet again. Does the fact you think somebody else was a twat, excuse the fact that Pulis creates these issues wherever he goes? I've already told you the answer. You just need to repeat it. Straw Bollocks. You're making a big issue of a moment in time and don't want to discuss the period, preferring to focus on just one part of it. Completely obsessive and completely illogical.
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