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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 22, 2017 19:01:34 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there.
We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations.
No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way.
In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against.
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2017 19:05:40 GMT
Burnley and Brighton are chalk and cheese to watch.
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Post by loosestools on Oct 22, 2017 19:08:22 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. Yes Yes Yes! Only saying the same thing yesterday before the match had even kicked off. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2017 19:14:22 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. I'd kill to see us play like Watford did yesterday in what turned out to be a convincing defeat away at a big side, Trousers. Unfortunately, it would us take about 4 transfer windows to get there and that is the most most damning indictment of the whole club these past two years. We're somehow massively behind fucking Watford! |
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Post by miggoscfc on Oct 22, 2017 19:16:07 GMT
I'm more worried about how he will manage big personalities and a higher calibre of player. It's all well and good managing your Jon Walters and Chris Woods but how will he get on with Shaq and Jese types. Also could he attract the type of players we want to see or are used to seeing ?
Far too many unknowns and I think people are so desperate for a change they aren't looking at the full picture. Dyche is the type of a manager that will always do well at a certain level but nothing about him tells me he'll do well at a bigger club with higher expectations.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 19:17:01 GMT
How can anyone be sure how the PL will look after 38 games, my guess would be that both Watford and Stoke will be in the top ten.
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Post by loosestools on Oct 22, 2017 19:22:51 GMT
How can anyone be sure how the PL will look after 38 games, my guess would be that both Watford and Stoke will be in the top ten. Delusion personified based on the evidence so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 19:24:16 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. I'd kill to see us play like Watford did yesterday in what turned out to be a convincing defeat away at a big side, Trousers. Unfortunately, it would us take about 4 transfer windows to get there and that is the most most damning indictment of the whole club these past two years. We're somehow massively behind fucking Watford! It wasn't that convincing a defeat. Watford missed a few absolute golden chances. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 22, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. If Brighton and Burnley are still in the premier league in 10 years time and they are as negative in their play as they are today, their fans will be moaning their arses off |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 19:35:36 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. I'd kill to see us play like Watford did yesterday in what turned out to be a convincing defeat away at a big side, Trousers. Unfortunately, it would us take about 4 transfer windows to get there and that is the most most damning indictment of the whole club these past two years. We're somehow massively behind fucking Watford! It will take a seismic shift to get there Sheikh. Their recruitment is miles ahead of ours and they've actually spent 192M in three seasons - 118M net. It's light years away from our investments, and yes in those terms as well as on the pitch we ARE massively behind Watford. I know i'm starting to sound like Benji-lite here but it's no coincidence. Richarlison was described by one of their club officials as a risk signing - a chance. He cost them 12M. We expect top level players for that money, not risks. |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 22, 2017 19:42:51 GMT
Sidewards step for dyche, we’re not worth his burnley reputation for.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 22, 2017 19:43:51 GMT
Dave Johnno 1 I respect your thoughts and views highly, was wondering what your take is on the current situation. I am concerned like most. Whatever it is something certainly is wrong and maybe a change of manager might be the answer. I don't buy into this we wouldn't attract players under a lesser name, players go where the money is these days.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 22, 2017 19:51:57 GMT
Dave Johnno 1 I respect your thoughts and views highly, was wondering what your take is on the current situation. I am concerned like most. Whatever it is something certainly is wrong and maybe a change of manager might be the answer. I don't buy into this we wouldn't attract players under a lesser name, players go where the money is these days. I genuinely don't know what to make of it. I've always liked mark Hughes but he really isn't helping himself right now. There are good arguments both sides really. If he was sacked he couldn't have too many complaints in reality. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 22, 2017 19:54:31 GMT
There's always 'some team' that's used as a stick to beat us with over how we 'should be'. First it was Hull, then Blackpool, then Swansea, then Southampton, now it's Watford & fucking Brighton.
Anyone still want to any of the first four? No?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 20:24:00 GMT
There's always 'some team' that's used as a stick to beat us with over how we 'should be'. First it was Hull, then Blackpool, then Swansea, then Southampton, now it's Watford & fucking Brighton. Anyone still want to any of the first four? No? Southampton as a club are light years ahead of us. |
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Post by stokemark on Oct 22, 2017 20:27:09 GMT
Dyche wouldn't come - certainly not when there are bigger fish interested in him
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Post by march4 on Oct 22, 2017 21:10:05 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. Well said that man. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Oct 22, 2017 21:27:25 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. If the club do follow your "advice" I'll be looking for something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. I could watch that kind of "football" at a local park on any Sunday. What's the point if the only decent football you see is from the opposition? |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 22, 2017 21:42:36 GMT
There's always 'some team' that's used as a stick to beat us with over how we 'should be'. First it was Hull, then Blackpool, then Swansea, then Southampton, now it's Watford & fucking Brighton. Anyone still want to any of the first four? No? Southampton as a club are light years ahead of us. In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 21:44:43 GMT
Southampton as a club are light years ahead of us. In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? Every way. They can attract the players we can't. See Soares, Redmond and Lemina. Two of them would transform our side and we bungled it. Their academy is so far ahead. And they've just been a better team in this period. |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 22, 2017 21:47:33 GMT
In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? Every way. They can attract the players we can't. See Soares, Redmond and Lemina. Two of them would transform our side and we bungled it. Their academy is so far ahead. And they've just been a better team in this period. The academy, absolutely. But as a team, they certainly aren’t light years ahead of us, not have they remotely been light years ahead of us over the last ten years. They’ve been marginally better than us for about three seasons, but light years? Stop being so fucking dramatic you daft tart. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 21:49:33 GMT
Every way. They can attract the players we can't. See Soares, Redmond and Lemina. Two of them would transform our side and we bungled it. Their academy is so far ahead. And they've just been a better team in this period. The academy, absolutely. But as a team, they certainly aren’t light years ahead of us, not have they remotely been light years ahead of us over the last ten years. They’ve been marginally better than us for about three seasons, but light years? Stop being so fucking dramatic you daft tart. They are though. Their full backs are on a different stratosphere to ours. Ditto their midfield. Butland, Shawcross and Shaq are the only players we have who would get into their side. |
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Post by mattface on Oct 22, 2017 22:04:58 GMT
What's the best football that we've seen since Stoke were promoted? We've had several really good spells, but most people would probably agree the stuff we were playing when we beat Man City 2-0 (the BMX/Stokealona spell) was the pinnacle. Is that the kind of stuff we should try to get back to? I don't think so. Because even if we do manage to replicate that and sustain it for a while, it won't last for long because the sort of players needed for that kind of football won't stay at Stoke. Arnie fucked off, Shaq will soon fuck off; there's no point in us even going there. We'd be much better off building something based around the football that Tony Pulis briefly hit upon at the end of our first season up or in that run up to the cup final: the up and at 'em style with pacy wingers, big lads up-front, solid back 4, tackling everything that moves in midfield...the sort of football that can be effectively played by 'no frills' footballers who aren't going to attract the attention of bigger fish. This isn't a call for TP to return- far from it, because we know that whenever he hit on something good he always dismantled it within a few weeks and reverted to horrible, ugly football so as not to raise expectations. No, it's a wish for something similar to what Chris Hughton's doing at Brighton- a bunch of no-names they might be, but they're players who fight for each other, have a gameplan and yet aren't exactly boring to watch either. Burnley are similar, if perhaps a bit more rough around the edges. Watford too- they have a bit of flair in key areas, but largely they're just big, athletic players who work hard and get stuck in. That's the sort of thing we need to get back to. I want us to be hard to beat, a pain in the arse to play against, but still decent enough to watch to get you off your seat now and again. At the moment we're just so fucking brittle and aimless, I can only see us going one way. In the short term, toughening us up and grinding a few points out (even if it is ugly) would get us out of trouble and keep us safe this season. In the long term, it's something we can maintain with a solid bunch of players as we look to return to being a top-half side who no-one enjoys playing against. I'd kill to see us play like Watford did yesterday in what turned out to be a convincing defeat away at a big side, Trousers. Unfortunately, it would us take about 4 transfer windows to get there and that is the most most damning indictment of the whole club these past two years. We're somehow massively behind fucking Watford! No it wouldn't we lost 4-2 away at Chelsea last season. For a side so on top their defending of the basics in the last 10 mins yesterday was laughable. Granted they could have been 4 up buy they didn't take their chances. We could have been level at half time yesterday if we'd taken our chances and that was playing the worst football in years. Saturday will be interesting |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 22, 2017 22:46:00 GMT
The academy, absolutely. But as a team, they certainly aren’t light years ahead of us, not have they remotely been light years ahead of us over the last ten years. They’ve been marginally better than us for about three seasons, but light years? Stop being so fucking dramatic you daft tart. They are though. Their full backs are on a different stratosphere to ours. Ditto their midfield. Butland, Shawcross and Shaq are the only players we have who would get into their side. They are currently 4 points ahead of us, having had a much easier start to the season fixture-wise. Last season they finished two points ahead of us. Light years ahead? With all due respect mate, you are talking out of your arse. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 22:50:19 GMT
They are though. Their full backs are on a different stratosphere to ours. Ditto their midfield. Butland, Shawcross and Shaq are the only players we have who would get into their side. They are currently 4 points ahead of us, having had a much easier start to the season fixture-wise. Last season they finished two points ahead of us. Light years ahead? With all due respect mate, you are talking out of your arse. It's amazing what a shite manager can do to a side.... |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2017 23:39:13 GMT
Southampton as a club are light years ahead of us. In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? Qualifying for Europe twice through league position? |
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Post by thedarkknight on Oct 22, 2017 23:45:19 GMT
In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? Qualifying for Europe twice through league position? Whilst selling nearly £200 million worth of players over the 2 seasons. |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 23, 2017 0:05:48 GMT
In what way are Southampton “light years” ahead of us? Qualifying for Europe twice through league position? The highest they have finished is 6th and that was three seasons ago, finishing 12 points ahead of us. The last couple of seasons we’ve been within 6 points of them. They are generally 2 or 3 wins a season better than us. Considering we’ve been “wank” for the last 2 years, that’s hardly stellar performance from Southampton. Certainly not light years ahead by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2017 0:09:40 GMT
Qualifying for Europe twice through league position? The highest they have finished is 6th and that was three seasons ago, finishing 12 points ahead of us. The last couple of seasons we’ve been within 6 points of them. They are generally 2 or 3 wins a season better than us. Considering we’ve been “wank” for the last 2 years, that’s hardly stellar performance from Southampton. Certainly not light years ahead by any stretch of the imagination. We can only dream of having their full backs and midfield. If we put Soares, Bertrand, Romeu and Lemina in our side it would absolutely transform us beyond recognition. |
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Post by thedarkknight on Oct 23, 2017 0:09:46 GMT
Qualifying for Europe twice through league position? The highest they have finished is 6th and that was three seasons ago, finishing 12 points ahead of us. The last couple of seasons we’ve been within 6 points of them. They are generally 2 or 3 wins a season better than us. Considering we’ve been “wank” for the last 2 years, that’s hardly stellar performance from Southampton. Certainly not light years ahead by any stretch of the imagination. A table doesn't show everything. Look at the business they have conducted, the conveyor belt of academy players, the intent to spend big (both successfully and not so) as stated light years ahead. They act and work like A premiership club. We act like a championship team happy to make up the numbers. |
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