|
Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 21, 2017 16:45:18 GMT
Was Hughes ever a good manager for us? Or did Nzonzi make him look good?
Since he left the connection from defence to attack has been non-existent. We had 50-60% almost every game with him in the side, now we're making fucking Bournemouth look like Barcelona.
He's got to go
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2017 16:45:42 GMT
Can't defend Hughes after that.
However who next?
Can't see who we could get.
|
|
|
Post by butlerstbob on Oct 21, 2017 16:46:22 GMT
Too many problems created by Hughes for me! Playing a system without the right tools is absolute madness, his fault! The fullbacks we have are absolutely gash again his fault! All this in turn meant we actually played with a 5 man defence today yet again his fault, which against a side that I think had scored 1 and conceded 7 on the road is just mind boggling! I haven't a clue who we replace him with but if he left tonight I wouldn't bat an eyelid! He has lost it big time and even the crowd can't be arsed!!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:46:33 GMT
Give the job to Cilla, couldn't do any fucking worse, Again with this drivel, who the fuck cares who we replace him with, seriously? What a ridiculous response. You don't care who would replace Hughes, seriously? The usual contribution from the usual fuckwits.
|
|
|
Post by stokief on Oct 21, 2017 16:46:57 GMT
OK, Big Sam stopped management for health and family reasons didn't he so I'd say he's a No-go. Dyche? Got to be kidding! Why would he leave a tough , hard working team that he's built to join a bottom of the table bedraggled bunch of lack-lustre, lost sheep badly assembled by Leslie and now totally devoid of confidence. I don't know what's next for Dyche but his sights will be set firmly higher! Coleman? Mmm, that'd be here we go again I fear! Moyes? Oh please no. He totally lost the plot. Trouble is, unless we've had one eye (which we should've had) on a replacement manager we're a bit stuffed! In this day and age you need a big personality in the Prem. to whip these over-paid Prima Donas into shape and obviously Hughes' playing career counts for nothing with this lot. They need a kick up the ass from someone with a bit of gravitas. Now, I sincerely hope that our Board have been preparing for what looked like a very likely situation. I was truely suprprised that we started this season with Hughes We need to push the boat out and convince someone, and yes, I would imagine we have to consider foreign as we're scraping the barrel with British hopefuls, and get someone who can come in as a force to be reckoned with. Pellegrini? Leicester seem to be in the driving seat. Roberto Mancini? Bet he'd like another crack at the Prem. Rafa? Would love it but now that Newcastle are to be taken over he'll stay put. Mancini it is then! Plus, as Tone once said, he knows how to tie a nice scarf and if nothing else would be more entertaining than dour Leslie
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Oct 21, 2017 16:47:15 GMT
I don't know anything about football managers - I'm not in charge of a football club. I'm a supporter of a football club and that club has been going backwards for 2 or 3 years. He's had time. He's had money. He's been allowed to change the system. Clubs sack managers all the time and, remarkably, they get new managers in. Maybe they're all grown in a big greenhouse in Lincolnshire - who knows? Grown in test tubes maybe. I honestly don't know pal. Could we attract Rafa? Mancini from the cold dark Russian steppe? I don't have the answer like everyone else. That's pretty much what I'm saying (and agreeing with you, too). Had Southamton fans heard of Poch before he joined? Same with Huddersfield fans and Wagner. The club pay the Chief Exec a huge salary, it's his job, not the fans to find alternatives.
|
|
|
Post by RAF on Oct 21, 2017 16:47:32 GMT
I'm honesty open to any solid credible suggestions. You see how hard this "game" is when you actually play it? Easy to call for his head. But the challenge is the replacement. Nobody cares that you're open to credible suggestions, nobody here needs to answer your inane question. The fact is we aren't paid to play the "game" as you call it so your post is irrelevant. Those who are paid should be if doing their job properly, considering all avenues. Stoke is a multi-million pound business with resources and contacts all over the world, they should be looking who is potentially available etc... in case it's needed. So yeah, pointless question, when trying to defend something without an actual defence. You don't speak for me for a start and I'll guess many others so don't assume that nobody cares. H
|
|
|
Post by ruts66 on Oct 21, 2017 16:47:45 GMT
"Walking the mile, walking the mile, we got us a dead man walking..."
In truth we need a new management/coaching team AND a new CE and DoF...
But, for starters, we need a rescue manager...
|
|
|
Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 21, 2017 16:49:04 GMT
Before today I'd have said no, I really am not sure what to think at the moment, but something has to change soon because we are sleepwalking towards the Championship as things are.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:53:30 GMT
Grown in test tubes maybe. I honestly don't know pal. Could we attract Rafa? Mancini from the cold dark Russian steppe? I don't have the answer like everyone else. That's pretty much what I'm saying (and agreeing with you, too). Had Southamton fans heard of Poch before he joined? Same with Huddersfield fans and Wagner. The club pay the Chief Exec a huge salary, it's his job, not the fans to find alternatives. We can all rest assured the matter is well in hand then if Scholes is responsible for identifying Hughes replacement, and then actually convincing whoever it is to sign. Bloody hell it's very worrying if it is Scholes who has to find the next manager. His list will be based on 1) British 2) Available 3) Cheap
|
|
|
Post by stokiesteve on Oct 21, 2017 16:53:39 GMT
What about Tony Pulis? He normally does well at struggling clubs I've heard.......
|
|
|
Post by dutchstokie on Oct 21, 2017 16:54:59 GMT
I wonder what Coatesy is thinking tonight???
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:55:13 GMT
Sam Allardyce or any other manager is and are not miracle workers.
We need two full backs, a mobile destroyer, a Crouch upgrade and a bona fide winger.
Which top player will the new manager have to sell to fund the freebies and loans coming in?
|
|
|
Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 21, 2017 16:55:17 GMT
Is there any chance we could tempt Benitez away from Newcastle? I know they’re flying high, but the club is up for sale and his job will be at risk if new owners come in. No love lost between him the Ashley, either. I would take him over any of the other suggestions being touted. Allardyce, Dych and Coleman? Fuck that right off.
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Oct 21, 2017 16:55:19 GMT
The club are clearly happy to plod along and scrape results occasionally as long as they can inhale all that TV money. I can't fucking believe were this far down the line with owners that are happy with the way things have been going so he January... 2016. We are disgraceful and have been for a long time.
Hughes should have had the boot in the summer. Rafa, Silva or Allardyce should have been candidates. But no, the Coates sit with their thumb up their arses and gingerly give this fucking charisma vacuum a few bob. Which he then blows on a CB that makes Wollcheid world class!
Hughes out. He's not capable of getting us out of this rut, it's gone one for too long.
|
|
|
Post by NassauDave on Oct 21, 2017 16:55:26 GMT
Get out Hughes. Your time is up.
|
|
|
Post by malteser68 on Oct 21, 2017 16:56:30 GMT
We've got the worst team ( not even 11 proper starters, given that there is no credible right back), worst squad and clueless manager
All the ingredients for the drop
Worst still, I start questioning whether the Board is actually bothered to turn things round
Keeping Hughes when he should have been given his marching orders 5 minutes after the final game of last season goes to show that either they are also clueless or that they don't give a toss
To explain all that is wrong with the club would take a whole thesis
Truth is that, except for a few spurts and bursts, there was no progress since Pulis left
Truth is that in spite of what some morons used to say (sidewards and backwards) Nzonzi was the linchpin which gelled the whole team
Ever since he left the rot began and he was never properly replaced
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Oct 21, 2017 16:57:49 GMT
I think Hughes Achilles heel, is he doesn't know how to insist on standards of behavior from players There was a big article on pochettino in last weeks mail on Sunday .Delle Alli said he first met him after he had signed and he told him ...everyone here gives everything , every game , I don't want to hear any excuses about being tired or stuff . I am old ,so it reminded of what Keegan said when he signed for Liverpool . He said shankly told him... if I was a road sweeper ,I would have the cleanest street in the town , do you understand what I am saying? I reckon pochettino is doing what shankly did and insisting on standards and behaviour. Unfortunately I don't think Hughes knows how to do that . Fantastic post. Hughes is devoid of personality and as you say, doesn't know how to manage these players.
|
|
|
Post by malteser68 on Oct 21, 2017 16:58:03 GMT
Had Southamton fans heard of Poch before he joined? Same with Huddersfield fans and Wagner. The club pay the Chief Exec a huge salary, it's his job, not the fans to find alternatives. We can all rest assured the matter is well in hand then if Scholes is responsible for identifying Hughes replacement, and then actually convincing whoever it is to sign. Bloody hell it's very worrying if it is Scholes who has to find the next manager. His list will be based on 1) British 2) Available 3) Cheap nigel Pearson might fit the bill I'd take him at the moment anyone I see better than Hughes
|
|
|
Post by thisfootballclub on Oct 21, 2017 16:58:42 GMT
Is there any chance we could tempt Benitez away from Newcastle? I know they’re flying high, but the club is up for sale and his job will be at risk if new owners come in. No love lost between him the Ashley, either. I would take him over any of the other suggestions being touted. Allardyce, Dych and Coleman? Fuck that right off. Yes, if there's a remote chance of tempting Benitez then our board should be making serious enquiries here.
|
|
|
Post by RAF on Oct 21, 2017 16:59:32 GMT
Well neither of those two I've mentioned that is for sure. I also know the solution is not to hope we lose in the offchance Coates will sack Hughes as seen on the match thread by a couple of dicks. Things are clearly not right. Like I've said if we can get the right replacement in then great, get rid, but I can't think of anyone who would come here at the moment who would improve us. The players need a fucking rocket as well, they have been gutless. So lets have some sensible attainable manager suggestions? H You have simply avoided answering the question: in the absence of the so-called 'sensible attainable manager suggestions' (something which should have been done in the summer, don't you think ?) what do you suggest we do ? Continue with the utter gash that is being dished week in, week out ? Is is this your solution ? Now AND this is where YOUR agenda comes in - whoever is suggested as a 'sensible attainable manager suggestion' will be show down by you as not the right choice let me throw a name into the hat (knowing full well that you will deride it, and without knowing whether he is actually available or not) - Quique Sanchez Flores I haven't avoided anything. I think it's fairly obvious that like many I'm scratching my head wondering what the fuck has gone wrong and I'm not sure how to fix it. A decent attainable replacement is one way to go , but for me bringing in someone like Allardyce is desperate, and we don't need to be. By the way this was discussed all pre-season if you care to look. So the other choice is to let Hughes turn it round. The frustrating thing is we were very good against Man Utd at home so we can obviously do it, just not with any consistency. Flores? I quite rated him at Watford and thought he was treated harshly. Would he leave Espanyol for us? Doubt it but I'm not averse to the idea. Fucking agenda my bollocks. H
|
|
|
Post by samba :) on Oct 21, 2017 17:00:06 GMT
Was Hughes ever a good manager for us? Or did Nzonzi make him look good? Since he left the connection from defence to attack has been non-existent. We had 50-60% almost every game with him in the side, now we're making fucking Bournemouth look like Barcelona. He's got to go this. Hughes was good with pretty much pulis' squad
|
|
|
Post by redsaturday on Oct 21, 2017 17:00:20 GMT
I wonder what Coatesy is thinking tonight??? Should I have salmon or venison for tea
|
|
|
Post by steino1966 on Oct 21, 2017 17:00:24 GMT
No arguments for MH retaining his job - the past 20 months have been diabolical. If Coates would look abroad then Thomas Tuchel would be my choice from available managers, but sadly he ain't British, no Prem experience and can't see him dropping down from Champions League level clubs. It's going be either Big Sam, Dyche or Coleman...
|
|
|
Post by mrred on Oct 21, 2017 17:01:17 GMT
Is there any chance we could tempt Benitez away from Newcastle? I know they’re flying high, but the club is up for sale and his job will be at risk if new owners come in. No love lost between him the Ashley, either. I would take him over any of the other suggestions being touted. Allardyce, Dych and Coleman? Fuck that right off. Yes, if there's a remote chance of tempting Benitez then our board should be making serious enquiries here. That ship sailed in the summer. Now with the end of the Ashley era in sight, there's more insentive to stay. Once again with the club, they were caught sleeping.
|
|
|
Post by milky on Oct 21, 2017 17:05:06 GMT
We've got the worst team ( not even 11 proper starters, given that there is no credible right back), worst squad and clueless manager All the ingredients for the drop Worst still, I start questioning whether the Board is actually bothered to turn things round Keeping Hughes when he should have been given his marching orders 5 minutes after the final game of last season goes to show that either they are also clueless or that they don't give a toss To explain all that is wrong with the club would take a whole thesis Truth is that, except for a few spurts and bursts, there was no progress since Pulis left Truth is that in spite of what some morons used to say (sidewards and backwards) Nzonzi was the linchpin which gelled the whole team Ever since he left the rot began and he was never properly replaced Now Hughes time may well be up but 3 successive 9th place finishes and 50 plus points would suggest there was progress after your hero left. Not for the first time today you're making shit up.
|
|
|
Post by TexasPotter on Oct 21, 2017 17:05:39 GMT
Sam Allardyce or any other manager is and are not miracle workers. We need two full backs, a mobile destroyer, a Crouch upgrade and a bona fide winger. Which top player will the new manager have to sell to fund the freebies and loans coming in? Don't worry we have Ireland back in the fold. 😂🤕 Any capable manager would have sold him and Adam, Johnson and rebuilt this team by now.
|
|
|
Post by songthrush01 on Oct 21, 2017 17:08:16 GMT
the problem is we are stuck in a pot of british managers with these owners,there are none that are any good
|
|
|
Post by kustokie on Oct 21, 2017 17:08:41 GMT
Was Hughes ever a good manager for us? Or did Nzonzi make him look good? Since he left the connection from defence to attack has been non-existent. We had 50-60% almost every game with him in the side, now we're making fucking Bournemouth look like Barcelona. He's got to go No. He should have gone two years ago. The reasons he is still here are obsurd: - He was a great player (so what, that doesn’t mean he will be a good manager. Most good players are not cut out for management)
- Three top ten finishes in a row (so what, past performance is irrelevant. Past performance does not always guarantee success. We have been heading in the wring direction for a long time)
- He’s British (so what? Why does this not apply to players as well. Get the best available manager NOW. I don’t care if he’s from outer-Mongolia)
|
|
|
Post by stokiesteve on Oct 21, 2017 17:08:52 GMT
Is there any chance we could tempt Benitez away from Newcastle? I know they’re flying high, but the club is up for sale and his job will be at risk if new owners come in. No love lost between him the Ashley, either. I would take him over any of the other suggestions being touted. Allardyce, Dych and Coleman? Fuck that right off. No chance at all in my view. He's doing a great job, and with the massive investment no doubt coming their way, I doubt he would go anywhere at the mo. Except back to the bin dippers of course.
|
|