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Post by crapslinger on Oct 14, 2017 19:34:13 GMT
Was never convinced it was a good deal on the basis of what Spurs originally paid. I don't remember many on here questioning it at the time though? I think most were too shell shocked at the lack of decent signings to have even noticed what a fuck up in the making this was likely to be.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 14, 2017 19:36:30 GMT
£18 million for one for the future this is Stoke City not fukin Chelsea, can you give any examples where he has remotely looked like an £18 million footballer ?? No as he's played 4 games in a mixed back line. I'll give him time to make his case....it's not champ manager So no , it should make little difference to who he plays alongside it's about his performances that is the point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 19:36:53 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Wollscheid. People can laugh at me all they want but that's the truth. And yet you're defending our manager on other threads.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 14, 2017 19:39:35 GMT
No as he's played 4 games in a mixed back line. I'll give him time to make his case....it's not champ manager So no , it should make little difference to who he plays alongside it's about his performances that is the point. So you don't think a settled back four helps, give over.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 19:40:18 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Wollscheid. People can laugh at me all they want but that's the truth. And yet you're defending our manager on other threads. ...and?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 14, 2017 19:41:17 GMT
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Post by ilikelamp on Oct 14, 2017 19:47:42 GMT
When he had a run of games in the spurs side due to vertonghen being injured the Spurs fans raved about him so he's not shit. He's been injured recently so probably isn't 100% as we are so short at the back he's most likely come back sooner than normal. Most likely playing through the pain barrier. Give him time.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 14, 2017 19:49:03 GMT
So no , it should make little difference to who he plays alongside it's about his performances that is the point. So you don't think a settled back four helps, give over. Poor excuse sorry, it's about his own performances his ability to carry out the tasks required of him as a PL defender.
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Post by Jimm on Oct 14, 2017 19:50:27 GMT
That's over 50 million on 3 players (Imbula, Wimmer and Berahino) who are absolute gash!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 14, 2017 19:51:37 GMT
And to think this was the player brought in as Wollscheids replacement.
£18m well and truly spunked up the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 19:55:29 GMT
And yet you're defending our manager on other threads. ...and? Isn't it another massively expensive bollock dropped by our manager? It's certainly looking like one and can you honestly say that his current team looks any better than the one he inherited? On paper it might but I'm not convinced where it matters.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Oct 14, 2017 19:56:48 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Wollscheid. People can laugh at me all they want but that's the truth. 😂
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:00:12 GMT
Isn't it another massively expensive bollock dropped by our manager? It's certainly looking like one and can you honestly say that his current team looks any better than the one he inherited? On paper it might but I'm not convinced where it matters. What has that got to do with questioning one players ability and defending the managers overall record at this club, in a thread that is opening up a question about his immediate future at the club during this calendar month?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 14, 2017 20:07:38 GMT
Ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:08:01 GMT
Isn't it another massively expensive bollock dropped by our manager? It's certainly looking like one and can you honestly say that his current team looks any better than the one he inherited? On paper it might but I'm not convinced where it matters. What has that got to do with questioning one players ability and defending the managers overall record at this club, in a thread that is opening up a question about his immediate future at the club during this calendar month? Surely it's relevant if our manager has replaced a defender he deemed not good enough (who he signed to replace a regular who he also deemed not good enough) with an 18 million pound signing who isn't as good as the bloke who's place he's taken?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:10:17 GMT
What has that got to do with questioning one players ability and defending the managers overall record at this club, in a thread that is opening up a question about his immediate future at the club during this calendar month? Surely it's relevant if our manager has replaced a defender he deemed not good enough (who he signed to replace a regular who he also deemed not good enough) with an 18 million pound signing who isn't as good as the bloke who's place he's taken? Is that the only KPI he's being judged on? One deal? Get it wrong and you can't be praised at all?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:19:54 GMT
Surely it's relevant if our manager has replaced a defender he deemed not good enough (who he signed to replace a regular who he also deemed not good enough) with an 18 million pound signing who isn't as good as the bloke who's place he's taken? Is that the only KPI he's being judged on? One deal? Get it wrong and you can't be praised at all? No it's not the only mistake has being judged on. To put it bluntly, we are taking twatting after twatting after twatting on an all too familiar basis and yet for some strange reason Mark Hughes is getting off Scott free with some supporters. It's baffling.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 14, 2017 20:21:25 GMT
What I think is a poor, is he's happy to sit back and watch zouma do more than his fair share of the work
Shawcross was not as good as huth but pulled his weight Overson was not as good as cranson but pulled his weight
Sitting back and watching your team mate do the work is piss poor
Makes Cameron look like Dennis Smith and that is worrying
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:24:41 GMT
Is that the only KPI he's being judged on? One deal? Get it wrong and you can't be praised at all? No it's not the only mistake has being judged on. To put it bluntly, we are taking twatting after twatting after twatting on an all too familiar basis and yet for some strange reason Mark Hughes is getting off Scott free with some supporters. It's baffling. Why is it baffling? Has he not done a good job overall given his net spend is significantly lower than the previous manager, who he has out performed for pretty much every season he's been here?
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Post by DentySCFC on Oct 14, 2017 20:27:23 GMT
Never mind Hughes, how Mark Cartwright and Kevin Cruickshank have still got jobs after we’ve spunked £50m on Wimmer, Berahino and Imbula is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:32:15 GMT
No it's not the only mistake has being judged on. To put it bluntly, we are taking twatting after twatting after twatting on an all too familiar basis and yet for some strange reason Mark Hughes is getting off Scott free with some supporters. It's baffling. Why is it baffling? Has he not done a good job overall given his net spend is significantly lower than the previous manager, who he has out performed for pretty much every season he's been here? He was doing a good job. That good job ended quite a while ago now and we are regressing just like we did under the previous manager. To be honest I don't care too much about comparing him with what Pulis did because it doesn't really matter, all that matters is that Mark Hughes has been here for four years and he hasn't improved us as a football team at all. He did improve us for a while and some of our football was a breath of fresh air, but we have gone backwards at an alarming rate from a couple of years ago and this current crop of players that he has assembled look completely toothless and unable to do the basics on far too many occasions for my liking.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Oct 14, 2017 20:34:09 GMT
What I think is a poor, is he's happy to sit back and watch zouma do more than his fair share of the work Shawcross was not as good as huth but pulled his weight Overson was not as good as cranson but pulled his weight Sitting back and watching your team mate do the work is piss poor Makes Cameron look like Dennis Smith and that is worrying Shawcross not aa good as Huth? Fook may I have heard it all now. There are some ridiculous views on this board and this is up there. Jesus Hates Christ!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:35:43 GMT
Why is it baffling? Has he not done a good job overall given his net spend is significantly lower than the previous manager, who he has out performed for pretty much every season he's been here? He was doing a good job. That good job ended quite a while ago now and we are regressing just like we did under the previous manager. To be honest I don't care too much about comparing him with what Pulis did because it doesn't really matter, all that matters is that Mark Hughes has been here for four years and he hasn't improved us as a football team at all. He did improve us for a while and some of our football was a breath of fresh air, but we have gone backwards at an alarming rate from a couple of years ago and this current crop of players that he has assembled look completely toothless and unable to do the basics on far too many occasions for my liking. Ok, now we've got to the end game (christ it took a while...) who would you replace him with?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 14, 2017 20:37:49 GMT
And to think this was the player brought in as Wollscheids replacement. £18m well and truly spunked up the wall. Given Wolfy was bought in to replace Huth we now have Wimmer bought in to replace Wolfy, all in all £21 million to replace Huth sold for £3 million, neither are fit to lace Huth's boots even now what a clusterfuck by Mark and his team why is he still employed as our manager can anyone give put up a valid argument as to why ?
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Post by generationex on Oct 14, 2017 20:39:04 GMT
Huth for 3 million
Or
Wimmer for 18.
Hmmm...
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 14, 2017 20:45:47 GMT
Give him a break he's been forced to play with a injury the last few weeks.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 14, 2017 20:46:37 GMT
Huth for 3 million Or Wimmer for 18. Hmmm... Hughes has the Midas touch in reverse everything he touches turns to shit.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 14, 2017 21:12:46 GMT
So you don't think a settled back four helps, give over. Poor excuse sorry, it's about his own performances his ability to carry out the tasks required of him as a PL defender. It still has an affect regardless.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 14, 2017 21:24:45 GMT
More like Kevin Whimper.
Another appalling waste of money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 21:29:40 GMT
He was doing a good job. That good job ended quite a while ago now and we are regressing just like we did under the previous manager. To be honest I don't care too much about comparing him with what Pulis did because it doesn't really matter, all that matters is that Mark Hughes has been here for four years and he hasn't improved us as a football team at all. He did improve us for a while and some of our football was a breath of fresh air, but we have gone backwards at an alarming rate from a couple of years ago and this current crop of players that he has assembled look completely toothless and unable to do the basics on far too many occasions for my liking. Ok, now we've got to the end game (christ it took a while...) who would you replace him with? It didn't take that long to be fair and it was pretty obvious from the start what I was getting at I'd do my research and replace him with someone who I believed could do a better job than my current under performing manager if I had to. Seeing as though I don't have too though I'll sit at home drinking and posting on here. What I will say though is that there simply has to be better managers out there in the world of football that would get a better tune out of this squad or god forbid, assemble a better squad of players after 4 years in a job. Oh and there was no need to blaspheme either
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