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Post by theunderdog on Sept 20, 2017 2:01:21 GMT
Losing to a Bristol City side making 9 changes is unforgivable 😡
Blackburn reserves, Wolves reserves, Hull reserves .. Same old same old.
What on earth was our management thinking -
No other mid week games to worry about
Early season, no rest needed
Bowen said before the game "it's our biggest game of the season"
Hughes main job criteria had to be to go deep into the Cups
It's our best (probably only.. dependent on the FA Cup draw!!) chance of a trophy
Playing a Bristol side in good form and knocked Watford out last round
.... PLAY YOUR FIRST 11 YOU BUNCH OF.. 😡
It's done it for me. Start the recruitment process Peter, Thank you and Goodnight Hughes & Co.
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Post by duckling on Sept 20, 2017 2:16:22 GMT
I doubt Premier League chairmen and owners feel the same sting and shame as fans when their club exits like they did tonight.
As long as the Premier League money keeps rolling in, they're satisfied. Cups contribute almost nothing toward the bank account for PL teams. The prize for winning the FA Cup is something like £1.8 million.
I think those in charge at Stoke know that cups are important to fans, but they don't realize just how much; and they underestimate the degree to which fans' feelings are hurt by poor cup performances.
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 20, 2017 2:47:01 GMT
For the owners it would seem that its all about the god damn money !!
Its all about the money, money, money ...
And nothing else matters ...
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 20, 2017 5:08:42 GMT
For the owners it would seem that its all about the god damn money !! Its all about the money, money, money ... And nothing else matters ... Love that Abba song 😂 |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 20, 2017 7:35:00 GMT
I very much doubt Coates will be looking for a new manager after that pathetic display last night.
He had the option to sack him at the end of last season after a near 18 months of very poor results & performances but choose to give him more time i just hope he called it right.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 20, 2017 7:59:59 GMT
Losing to a Bristol City side making 9 changes is unforgivable 😡 Blackburn reserves, Wolves reserves, Hull reserves .. Same old same old. What on earth was our management thinking - No other mid week games to worry about Early season, no rest needed Bowen said before the game "it's our biggest game of the season" Hughes main job criteria had to be to go deep into the Cups It's our best (probably only.. dependent on the FA Cup draw!!) chance of a trophy Playing a Bristol side in good form and knocked Watford out last round .... PLAY YOUR FIRST 11 YOU BUNCH OF.. 😡 It's done it for me. Start the recruitment process Peter, Thank you and Goodnight Hughes & Co. Last time i went 'deep into the cups' seemed like a lifetime a go. Will have to try the chocolates and flowers approach with the missus.  |
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Post by stokemark on Sept 20, 2017 8:49:34 GMT
And financially back his replacement rather than try and squeeze 'value' out of free transfers and loans.
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Post by duckling on Sept 20, 2017 9:05:15 GMT
And financially back his replacement rather than try and squeeze 'value' out of free transfers and loans. Yet those free transfers and loans in several cases turned out better than the expensive players. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 20, 2017 9:11:01 GMT
its a bigger problem surely , why are our overpaid overpampered journeymen ( players and management ) seemingly incapable of beating championship reserve teams ?
If i had been in charge of that lot last night I'd have left them in Bristol and told the coach driver to go without them , not that it makes much of a difference , the game is fucked and this shit will keep on happening it did under TP and its the same with Hughes without decent cup runs the season becomes very dull , the chances of young players getting any game time probably nil even if we were still in the cups are now zero again until the third round and we will plod along in the league just about keeping our head above watwer and keeping the money rolling in
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Post by neddy on Sept 20, 2017 9:13:46 GMT
And financially back his replacement rather than try and squeeze 'value' out of free transfers and loans. Yet those free transfers and loans in several cases turned out better than the expensive players. Exactly this re Imbula, Berahino and now possibly Vimmer? I am beginning to worry now every time we look to get the cheque book out! Re first team Butland bought by TP Diouf no fee Zouma loan Shawcross TP Indi £8m Pieters forgot was it £5m? Fletch no fee Allen £13m Shaq £12m Choupo no fee Jesé loan When are we going to buy a big money signing that makes an impact and plays regularly???? £50m on those three and to date no impact....jury out on Vimmer admittedly but it hadn't started well??? |
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Post by rawli on Sept 20, 2017 9:35:14 GMT
Yet those free transfers and loans in several cases turned out better than the expensive players. Exactly this re Imbula, Berahino and now possibly Vimmer? I am beginning to worry now every time we look to get the cheque book out! Re first team Butland bought by TP Diouf no fee Zouma loan Shawcross TP Indi £8m Pieters forgot was it £5m? Fletch no fee Allen £13m Shaq £12m Choupo no fee Jesé loan When are we going to buy a big money signing that makes an impact and plays regularly???? £50m on those three and to date no impact....jury out on Vimmer admittedly but it hadn't started well??? None of those signings are big money. |
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Post by neddy on Sept 20, 2017 9:49:10 GMT
Exactly this re Imbula, Berahino and now possibly Vimmer? I am beginning to worry now every time we look to get the cheque book out! Re first team Butland bought by TP Diouf no fee Zouma loan Shawcross TP Indi £8m Pieters forgot was it £5m? Fletch no fee Allen £13m Shaq £12m Choupo no fee Jesé loan When are we going to buy a big money signing that makes an impact and plays regularly???? £50m on those three and to date no impact....jury out on Vimmer admittedly but it hadn't started well??? None of those signings are big money. They are for us at circa £18m a pop? Doesn't answer the underlying point that none of the three have made any sort of first team impact to date? |
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Post by andrewguk on Sept 20, 2017 11:27:07 GMT
Losing to a Bristol City side making 9 changes is unforgivable 😡 Blackburn reserves, Wolves reserves, Hull reserves .. Same old same old. What on earth was our management thinking - No other mid week games to worry about Early season, no rest needed Bowen said before the game "it's our biggest game of the season" Hughes main job criteria had to be to go deep into the Cups It's our best (probably only.. dependent on the FA Cup draw!!) chance of a trophy Playing a Bristol side in good form and knocked Watford out last round .... PLAY YOUR FIRST 11 YOU BUNCH OF.. 😡 It's done it for me. Start the recruitment process Peter, Thank you and Goodnight Hughes & Co.  |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 20, 2017 11:32:35 GMT
And financially back his replacement rather than try and squeeze 'value' out of free transfers and loans. What? Choup - FREE Fletcher - FREE Jese - LOAN Zouma - LOAN VS. Berahino - 12m Wimmer - 18m Imbula - 18m Based on that I would say Stoke City better stick to the cheap options |
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 20, 2017 11:43:46 GMT
Losing to a Bristol City side making 9 changes is unforgivable 😡 Blackburn reserves, Wolves reserves, Hull reserves .. Same old same old. What on earth was our management thinking - No other mid week games to worry about Early season, no rest needed Bowen said before the game "it's our biggest game of the season" Hughes main job criteria had to be to go deep into the Cups It's our best (probably only.. dependent on the FA Cup draw!!) chance of a trophy Playing a Bristol side in good form and knocked Watford out last round .... PLAY YOUR FIRST 11 YOU BUNCH OF.. 😡 It's done it for me. Start the recruitment process Peter, Thank you and Goodnight Hughes & Co. While it is always sickening to lose , we have over 150 years of practice. We lost a game - it's not the end of the world. Next year!  |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 20, 2017 11:54:18 GMT
The players fault ENTIRELY...Either they just didn't bother to turn up, or they went there with a touch of arrogance and underestimated Bristol......whatever it was, the players are the ones responsible for our shocking display last night!!!
Hughes made only 5 changes, which 99.9% of us would have expected him to make, so he obviously went there with the intentions of fielding a relatively strong line up, plus the players on the bench, that was practically the whole of the first team bar Jese!!!
If the entire first team had of played last night we'd have still lost, they were up for it, we weren't, the players need to take a good hard look at themselves!!!
The manager will ALWAYS take the flack, but it's time the players did too!!!
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Post by rawli on Sept 20, 2017 12:06:02 GMT
None of those signings are big money. They are for us at circa £18m a pop? Doesn't answer the underlying point that none of the three have made any sort of first team impact to date? They shouldn't be for us. We are the 7th longest established PL club. The chairman doesn't want to invest the required money despite having pocket fulls of it. |
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Post by rawli on Sept 20, 2017 12:09:26 GMT
And financially back his replacement rather than try and squeeze 'value' out of free transfers and loans. What? Choup - FREE Fletcher - FREE Jese - LOAN Zouma - LOAN VS. Berahino - 12m Wimmer - 18m Imbula - 18m Based on that I would say Stoke City better stick to the cheap options They aren't free though are they? Just because the other club doesn't get anything doesn't mean the player or agent gets it in terms of pay, golden hello's or whatever. Good to see we've decided Wimmer is shit. May as well have kept Wollscheidt as he was a much cheaper scape goat. |
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Post by Veritas on Sept 20, 2017 12:14:07 GMT
Doom and gloom pre-season, beat Arsenal and draw with Man U talking about top 7, lose to Bristol City doom and gloom with calls to sack the manager, football fans!!!
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Post by Veritas on Sept 20, 2017 12:15:04 GMT
Doom and gloom pre-season, beat Arsenal and draw with Man U talking about top 7, lose to Bristol City doom and gloom with calls to sack the manager, football fans!!!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 20, 2017 12:25:43 GMT
Doom and gloom pre-season, beat Arsenal and draw with Man U talking about top 7, lose to Bristol City doom and gloom with calls to sack the manager, football fans!!! Fickle fuckers, aren't we?! |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 20, 2017 12:39:31 GMT
To be fair the cheap ones and frees have been the better acquisitions , it's when he spends the money we have to worry, we have about £50 millions worth not playing and a team full of frees and loan players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 13:18:52 GMT
To be fair the cheap ones and frees have been the better acquisitions , it's when he spends the money we have to worry, we have about £50 millions worth not playing and a team full of frees and loan players. Says he's looking at the price tag and not the player and just assuming they must be good based on their value. If that is the case then surely the fault is in the scouts. Having said that Wimmer wouldn't be the first person put on the stage and freeze it's always easier to sing in the chorus than to be the lead vocal. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 20, 2017 13:27:59 GMT
I don't want Mr. Coates looking for a replacement, I just want Mr. Hughes to concentrate on how to get our defenders to do their jobs, and the Strikers likewise.
If Hughes can't sort that out, then Coates can look for a replacement.
But for now, I'm in the Hughes to stay camp.
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 20, 2017 14:29:36 GMT
For the owners it would seem that its all about the god damn money !! Its all about the money, money, money ... And nothing else matters ... Love that Abba song 😂 Actuallyit was katy perry and metallica 🤣 |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 20, 2017 14:37:35 GMT
I don't want Mr. Coates looking for a replacement, I just want Mr. Hughes to concentrate on how to get our defenders to do their jobs, and the Strikers likewise. If Hughes can't sort that out, then Coated can look for a replacement. But for now, I'm in the Hughes to stay camp. It's bloody daft mate. I'm sure Hughes is gutted as anyone as he would have targeted a cup, although I think the league cup is still usually won by someone out the top six for the last 7-8 years at least bar the odd rare lower team. Players nowadays have their eye on premier league games even if not intentionally. Even champions league games usually take second place to probably games in players minds until the latter stages. Premier league gets the exposure around the world and players have them games at the front of their minds. The fringe players have no excuses though it only takes a few first teamers having a coasting night to soon spread through the team. Liverpool likewise last night. All about the prem for most players noatter how much a manager stresses the importance. |
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Post by boweryboy on Sept 20, 2017 15:18:13 GMT
Beat Arsenal.draw with United lose to Newcastle 2-1.could have been five or six in truth.lose to Bristol city reserves 2-0..football fans eh.....Crouch Adam and Johnson coming in made us more pedestrian than we already are....these three should have gone,no amount of experience at a certain age is any match against young legs with pace.....
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 20, 2017 15:35:01 GMT
Yet those free transfers and loans in several cases turned out better than the expensive players. Exactly this re Imbula, Berahino and now possibly Vimmer? I am beginning to worry now every time we look to get the cheque book out! Re first team Butland bought by TP Diouf no fee Zouma loan Shawcross TP Indi £8m Pieters forgot was it £5m? Fletch no fee Allen £13m Shaq £12m Choupo no fee Jesé loan When are we going to buy a big money signing that makes an impact and plays regularly???? £50m on those three and to date no impact....jury out on Vimmer admittedly but it hadn't started well??? Why spend all the big money when LMH seems much better with less money available!  |
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Post by hoofmagic on Sept 20, 2017 16:08:23 GMT
I worked with manager's all my working life, some manager's have got what it takes, some have not, and some NEVER (will) HUGHES.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 20, 2017 16:12:58 GMT
I worked with manager's all my working life, some manager's have got what it takes, some have not, and some NEVER (will) HUGHES. What what takes? |
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