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Post by redstriper on Sept 20, 2017 16:35:11 GMT
same old guff on here, we beat arsenal and there's people on here eulogising, we lose to Bristol and we are shit
truth is, as its always been, we are somewhere in between, the internet is all about "look at me" - hence massive over-reaction.
Hughes isn't useless, neither is he a messiah.
The laughable suggestions we had on here for a replacement illustrate the reality - which is that replacing him is more of a risk and makes no sense during a cool-headed boardroom debate.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 20, 2017 17:22:31 GMT
Losing to a Bristol City side making 9 changes is unforgivable 😡 Blackburn reserves, Wolves reserves, Hull reserves .. Same old same old. What on earth was our management thinking - No other mid week games to worry about Early season, no rest needed Bowen said before the game "it's our biggest game of the season" Hughes main job criteria had to be to go deep into the Cups It's our best (probably only.. dependent on the FA Cup draw!!) chance of a trophy Playing a Bristol side in good form and knocked Watford out last round .... PLAY YOUR FIRST 11 YOU BUNCH OF.. 😡 It's done it for me. Start the recruitment process Peter, Thank you and Goodnight Hughes & Co. Are you aware there are other clubs who lose to lower league opposition in the cups, whether they make numerous changes or not?
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Post by march4 on Sept 20, 2017 17:25:52 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box.
He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players.
If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 20, 2017 17:28:38 GMT
The players fault ENTIRELY...Either they just didn't bother to turn up, or they went there with a touch of arrogance and underestimated Bristol......whatever it was, the players are the ones responsible for our shocking display last night!!! Hughes made only 5 changes, which 99.9% of us would have expected him to make, so he obviously went there with the intentions of fielding a relatively strong line up, plus the players on the bench, that was practically the whole of the first team bar Jese!!! If the entire first team had of played last night we'd have still lost, they were up for it, we weren't, the players need to take a good hard look at themselves!!! The manager will ALWAYS take the flack, but it's time the players did too!!! To be honest as we have very little chance of winning this cup I would have played as many "promising youngsters" as possible then they should be motivated (if not you don't need to waste any more time on them) and if you loose, well it was useful experience for them.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 20, 2017 17:29:47 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box. He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players. If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint. He's more Pulis than Pulis. No thanks, Marchy
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Post by adamsson on Sept 20, 2017 17:32:46 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box. He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players. If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint. And he would not come to Stoke. Liverpool YES! But a sideways move to another midtable team not a chance.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2017 17:34:07 GMT
Allardyce is the only candidate that I think Coates would appoint if Hughes was relieved of his duties.
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 20, 2017 17:36:24 GMT
Doom and gloom pre-season, beat Arsenal and draw with Man U talking about top 7, lose to Bristol City doom and gloom with calls to sack the manager, football fans!!! It's not losing to the likes of wolves or bristol city that will be hughes undoing. People accept there will be upsets in the Cup and a decent championship side can always pull off a shock, if things go their way. It's the amount of no shows that will be the end of hughes. Unless they are idiots, fans want to see their team win or go down all guns blazing. What's the point in lame, can't be arsed defeats. They are waste of everyones time and an insult to the fans. Hughes just presides over too many no shows.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2017 17:36:32 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box. He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players. If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint. And he would not come to Stoke. Liverpool YES! But a sideways move to another midtable team not a chance. He would if the money was right, not that'd i'd particularly want us to get him in.
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Post by loosestools on Sept 20, 2017 17:48:20 GMT
Will Koeman be sacked - doubt it - his team have gone tits up without Lukaku who by all accounts was a lazy boy. The players are the team - they must take the blame for last nights debacle. And we need a bloody good striker.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 20, 2017 19:29:14 GMT
Will Koeman be sacked - doubt it - his team have gone tits up without Lukaku who by all accounts was a lazy boy. The players are the team - they must take the blame for last nights debacle. And we need a bloody good striker. Yes he will be sacked if they don't improve Everton have high expectations and probably little patience Stoke have lower expectations and considerably more patience
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 20, 2017 19:33:05 GMT
Actuallyit was katy perry and metallica 🤣 Yes I know I listened to it , but also the money money money by abba , my era lol 😀
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Post by geekenny on Sept 20, 2017 19:39:13 GMT
Will Koeman be sacked - doubt it - his team have gone tits up without Lukaku who by all accounts was a lazy boy. The players are the team - they must take the blame for last nights debacle. And we need a bloody good striker. Yes he will be sacked if they don't improve Everton have high expectations and probably little patience Stoke have lower expectations and considerably more patience Don't think Everton's turnaround in Managers has been that drastic has it.?? Has It?
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Post by adamsson on Sept 20, 2017 19:49:35 GMT
Yes he will be sacked if they don't improve Everton have high expectations and probably little patience Stoke have lower expectations and considerably more patience Don't think Everton's turnaround in Managers has been that drastic has it.?? Has It? Not under Bill Kenwright no. Under Moshiri things might change, I don't think they are going to spend £145 million and be happy with 18th place
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Post by geekenny on Sept 20, 2017 19:52:32 GMT
Don't think Everton's turnaround in Managers has been that drastic has it.?? Has It? Not under Bill Kenwright no. Under Moshiri things might change, I don't think they are going to spend £145 million and be happy with 18th place Seems like a job for Tone 😆
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Post by scfccat on Sept 20, 2017 20:07:48 GMT
I see boringBoy I mean Boweryboy has piped up all excited after a couple of losses. Mr Predictable.
God man you are Negative like your fellow doom merchant Benjibiscuit. EVERY POST IS ANTI STOKE CITY...
I bet you can't wait for Chelsea to beat us.
But seriously pal Welcome to being a stoke city fan, throughout our entire history we are shit in cups and in 154 years of our existence we have Won once!
Remember top flight stoke city losing to Blyth Spartans??
It's Hardly surprising is it? Get a grip.
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Post by boweryboy on Sept 20, 2017 21:57:28 GMT
Don't remember us spending millio ns then to achieve the same results in the cup as we are now...I was quite happy with our start for your information,but anybody with any brains would be concerned with our last two performances,looking more like what we witnessed last season,I hope we bounce back against Chelsea,if that clears anything up...but if we do lose it will be the manner of the defeat and not the result that will concern me most after our last two performances,or I could be like you and stick my head in the sand and not be concerned with how we are performing at the moment...
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Post by swampySCFC on Sept 20, 2017 22:06:01 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 20, 2017 22:17:01 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory Three 9 place finishes and wins over man united and Chelsea all things Pulis didn't accomplish plus a league cup semi final .
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Post by elystokie on Sept 20, 2017 22:39:29 GMT
Allardyce is the only candidate that I think Coates would appoint if Hughes was relieved of his duties. Please God no, 'tactic' (singular) far too toxicesque, we've suffered enough.
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Post by eatonpotter on Sept 20, 2017 23:05:33 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory Three 9 place finishes and wins over man united and Chelsea all things Pulis didn't accomplish plus a league cup semi final . Think you will find Pulis got to an F.A Cup Final and into Europe, but you keep creaming you're panties over Leslie's wonderful record
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Post by generationex on Sept 20, 2017 23:16:42 GMT
I still think survival from relegation to the old third and promotion were bigger achievements but it's a fair point.
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Post by BristolMick on Sept 20, 2017 23:19:55 GMT
Three 9 place finishes and wins over man united and Chelsea all things Pulis didn't accomplish plus a league cup semi final . Think you will find Pulis got to an F.A Cup Final and into Europe, but you keep creaming you're panties over Leslie's wonderful record Not just that he got us into an FA cup semi final and a Quarter Final too dontcha know! BM
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Post by duckling on Sept 21, 2017 2:31:53 GMT
I still think survival from relegation to the old third and promotion were bigger achievements but it's a fair point. Do you think Hughes could have achieved promotion and staying up the first few seasons with Stoke? Has he ever managed in a lower tier and/or at a newly promoted side? Do you think Pulis could achieve promotion with another team, or was he really lucky that season?
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Post by sportsman on Sept 21, 2017 6:45:57 GMT
So the fans want Hughes sacked, klopp sacked, koeman sacked, Wenger sacked,and many others no doubt. The money in the game has made following football a joke.
The media push the amount clubs spend and don't spend, putting pressure on owners to spend. Then the media have a sack race, then the fans pick up on this and start calling managers out. The whole lot is money mad mess.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 21, 2017 6:52:59 GMT
Three 9 place finishes and wins over man united and Chelsea all things Pulis didn't accomplish plus a league cup semi final . Think you will find Pulis got to an F.A Cup Final and into Europe, but you keep creaming you're panties over Leslie's wonderful record Those are the same thing. They are not two separate achievements.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 21, 2017 6:54:11 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory Why couldn't Pulis ever finish in the top half then? If it's no big deal and nothing special, why did he never manage it with us? Only one manager has ever brought us 'cup glory' and it wasn't Pulis or Hughes.
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 21, 2017 7:08:53 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box. He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players. If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint. is this the chap that got his team knocked out by a championship team? and you are suggesting him on a thread saying hughes out because he got his team knocked out by a championship team? topped yourself there March!!!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 21, 2017 7:22:43 GMT
Think you will find Pulis got to an F.A Cup Final and into Europe, but you keep creaming you're panties over Leslie's wonderful record Not just that he got us into an FA cup semi final and a Quarter Final too dontcha know! BM I'll explain as the fa cup and the league cup , or whatever the apomsord determine are different completions yes they have cup in the title but different rules , different teams etc pulis Did do al those things but didn't ever do finish in the top 10 and didnt reach the semi final of the league cup . Those are facts . equally I'm not Creamig over Hughes he makes very odd decisions and can't settle on a pattern and his forwards policy baffling , but he has given a list of players that simply haven't been delivered and gone on to do well elsewhere . His net spend is way below his peer group over a sustained period , the powers that be had to back him or sack him to stick in the middle with keep and balance the books a recipe for disaster The bigger issue is whoever the manager we have it back him and I don't believe we have the commercial team to do that for players our peer group want so we fall back in high risk , free , injured and get worse season after a season as result . Anyone who keepS this lot out of trouble should be manager of the year no question.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 21, 2017 7:23:50 GMT
There is a chap at Burnley who ticks the British box, ticks the Prem experience box and ticks the plays proper football box. He knows how to organise his team, how to defend corners and he can motivate his players. If we want to progress and not regress he is just the sort of man we can appoint. He also knows how to be relegated. He would be unable to attract the quality of players that Hughes has. I'm sure many of the players who have come to Stoke rather than somewhere else is because of Hughes presence. Why should he move to Stoke? I'm sure he would want to progress to a bigger club or an England job.
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