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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 21, 2017 12:22:04 GMT
That really wasn't my point. Sorry, thought you were saying we should be happy to beat some big teams occasionally rather than silverware. What was your point? My point to wagsastokie was that if you dismiss 9th place and something meaningless you won't remember, as proof Hughes has been rubbish, then you have to equally expunge all the hard work and good football and good results that went along with those finishes. Those are just as much a part of the era as the league finishes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 21, 2017 12:22:53 GMT
Those 'odd results' constitute the club's best performances at this level for 40 years. Yeah, so why was it ok in the 70s but meaningless now? It's not a stick to beat the previous manager with, it's a response to those who long for him and hate Hughes for not being him. If ninth is meaningless, why couldn't your hero achieve it? Ever? I think he could have done, he just didn't have the balls to try. I think so too.
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Post by duckling on Sept 21, 2017 12:23:53 GMT
This typifies what is wrong people express a perfectly valid view point I.e. That finishing 9th means fuck all and people suggest you go up the vale or even worse suggest you become a scum fan I may be in a minority but I would happily give up premiership football for a fa cup final win Really? Does anyone know a Wigan fan? What do they think?
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Post by rawli on Sept 21, 2017 13:12:37 GMT
Probably better to get yourself on the waiting list at old Trafford mate, or Chelsea. This typifies what is wrong people express a perfectly valid view point I.e. That finishing 9th means fuck all and people suggest you go up the vale or even worse suggest you become a scum fan I may be in a minority but I would happily give up premiership football for a fa cup final win Me too. We'd come back. And the fact the olds bang on about 1972 shows how much actually winning something means.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 13:24:54 GMT
What a difference just four days makes, from Saturday morning to Tuesday evening our season has gone from real promise to a complete fuckup... on here at least.
Hopefully Coates doesnāt see it that way, because in the real world, Hughes has lost two games and we have a minor blip but plenty of opportunity to put things right. He will be here for the long term, use your energy to back him and the team rather than bringing the knives out at every opportunity.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 21, 2017 14:23:15 GMT
I see boringBoy I mean Boweryboy has piped up all excited after a couple of losses. Mr Predictable. God man you are Negative like your fellow doom merchant Benjibiscuit. EVERY POST IS ANTI STOKE CITY... I bet you can't wait for Chelsea to beat us. But seriously pal Welcome to being a stoke city fan, throughout our entire history we are shit in cups and in 154 years of our existence we have Won once! Remember top flight stoke city losing to Blyth Spartans?? It's Hardly surprising is it? Get a grip. We weren't in the top flight when we lost to Blyth Spartans, we were in the second tier (the old division 2).... Not doing too good either may I add!!!
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Post by thevoid on Sept 21, 2017 20:17:42 GMT
poison- that is what this board has become.there is no doubt in my mind that the original supporters who used to post regulary on here have been surpassed by infiltraitors[vale fans maybe] or by people who just simply hate stoke[thus justifying their own glory hunting status. i find it impossible to differentiate between the two. what the answer/ not sure there is one? my suggestion it should be based on a validation scheme[passport-driving liscence] and a pay site. this would get rid of the majority of the wankers So anyone with a differing opinion to your own who doesn't wank themselves silly over everything the club does (or doesn't do if that's the case) is a Vale-supporting undercover operative? I moan about my other half, doesn't mean I don't love her. Perhaps I'd be a better Stoke fan if I wore a full kit to the games?
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 22, 2017 9:30:21 GMT
Can't see why anyone would want Dyche as a manager. Achieved promotions from the Championship, but a failure in the Prem and been relegated. He would not attract quality players like Hughes can. The analogy with Pulis is correct; players like Fletcher would not want to play with such a restrictive style of management.
Raffa would not step down to a small club like Stoke. In fact I think he is biding his time waiting for the next big plum job to come along, wherever in Europe it might be, but possibly Arsenal.
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Post by mrred on Sept 22, 2017 9:42:57 GMT
What a difference just four days makes, from Saturday morning to Tuesday evening our season has gone from real promise to a complete fuckup... on here at least. Hopefully Coates doesnāt see it that way, because in the real world, Hughes has lost two games and we have a minor blip but plenty of opportunity to put things right. He will be here for the long term, use your energy to back him and the team rather than bringing the knives out at every opportunity. I think the grumbling about this last week are justified given the last 18 months, no? No one wants to see us fall back into that. Hence the genuine level of concern.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 22, 2017 10:02:29 GMT
poison- that is what this board has become.there is no doubt in my mind that the original supporters who used to post regulary on here have been surpassed by infiltraitors[vale fans maybe] or by people who just simply hate stoke[thus justifying their own glory hunting status. i find it impossible to differentiate between the two. what the answer/ not sure there is one? my suggestion it should be based on a validation scheme[passport-driving liscence] and a pay site. this would get rid of the majority of the wankers So anyone with a differing opinion to your own who doesn't wank themselves silly over everything the club does (or doesn't do if that's the case) is a Vale-supporting undercover operative? I moan about my other half, doesn't mean I don't love her. Perhaps I'd be a better Stoke fan if I wore a full kit to the games? totally wrong on all aspects. i was merely highlighting the fact it is hard to seperate the genuine stoke fans on here and outsiders who like to stir things up. i have been a stoke for more years than i care to remember i love my club and take umbrage when people run it down. we will never have the resources of one of the big6 that is a fact get used to it. i am happy that we are competing in the best league in the world and i want that to continue for years to come and imo that will be achieved by stability. mh is not perfect by any means but as managers go he is in the top tier so we should be supporting him not sniping behind his back on here. for me this summer was shamefull to be a scfc on the oatcake people calling our transfer team,mh,and pc degrading names was simply embarrassing our squad has continually improved in every transfer window yet people still moan one thing for sure is the atmosphere at the ground[true stoke city supporters] is totally opposite the atmosphere on this board and that saddens me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 10:23:23 GMT
I think the grumbling about this last week are justified given the last 18 months, no? No one wants to see us fall back into that. Hence the genuine level of concern. I donāt want to see us fall back into that either, but we need some perspective - we have been excellent this season bar the last two games, sadly one of them means we are out of the league cup, but I donāt think we can grumble. Hughes put out an excellent team against Bristol and definitely went for it, not too far off a full strength team, it didnāt work out but thatās how it goes sometimes. A point against Chelsea and all this will be forgotten, we move on.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 22, 2017 10:40:13 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 22, 2017 11:20:30 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc Etc Etc???? Strange names for world class players
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 22, 2017 11:22:38 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc Etc Etc???? Strange names for world class players Its basically me being lazy and using etc rather than finding out who else he unearthed
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Post by 3putts on Sept 22, 2017 12:16:41 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 22, 2017 12:40:05 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been Maybe I am being thick but not really sure what you mean, you will need to explain sorry
the question was "Start finding a replacement Coates" and I suggested the ex Dortmund Manager Tuchel. Not really sure why that's odd but please enlighten me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 12:43:41 GMT
poison- that is what this board has become.there is no doubt in my mind that the original supporters who used to post regulary on here have been surpassed by infiltraitors[vale fans maybe] or by people who just simply hate stoke[thus justifying their own glory hunting status. i find it impossible to differentiate between the two. what the answer/ not sure there is one? my suggestion it should be based on a validation scheme[passport-driving liscence] and a pay site. this would get rid of the majority of the wankers Start you own site if you feel that strongly 3putts. That way when people disagree with you you can ban them and keep your foul abusive comments to yourself and followers
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 12:45:35 GMT
The guy I would look into is the ex Borussia Dortmund manager who replaced Klopp, think his name is Tuchal (or something similar). I think he is out of work and has unearthed some proper players such as Pulisic, Dembele etc yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been You dont seem to ever offer constructive debate just abusive tirades against fellow Stoke fans Yes i fall out with fellow posters but never become abusive, try it some time 3putts
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 22, 2017 12:52:43 GMT
yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been You dont seem to ever offer constructive debate just abusive tirades against fellow Stoke fans Yes i fall out with fellow posters but never become abusive, try it some time 3putts I am still baffled why my suggestion warranted the banging head on wall emoji, I actually thought it was a sensible answer to a sensible question. If someone disagrees then I have no issue with that as its a debate, but unsure what Norman Smurthwaite has to do with it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 14:36:53 GMT
You dont seem to ever offer constructive debate just abusive tirades against fellow Stoke fans Yes i fall out with fellow posters but never become abusive, try it some time 3putts I am still baffled why my suggestion warranted the banging head on wall emoji, I actually thought it was a sensible answer to a sensible question. If someone disagrees then I have no issue with that as its a debate, but unsure what Norman Smurthwaite has to do with it
You have said nowt wrong Shrew. It was a sensible discussion but i think that is what confuses certain posters As I said before i welcome debate, thats what a message board is for. I have had disagreements with loads on here but would never abuse someone., esp fellow Stokies The Void liked my post above and i think (apologies void if i am wrong) we had a difference of opinion over summat but dunna stop him acting like a man and liking a different post
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 15:17:01 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory So why didn't he do it? What Cup glory have we had?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 22, 2017 15:44:40 GMT
I don't think Hughes has brought anything to Stoke that Pulis couldn't have done. He certainly hasn't brought cup glory So why didn't he do it? What Cup glory have we had? If Pulis had presided over the previous season and a half of dross and spent 50m on three duds (early days for Wimmer I accept), you'd have been frothing at the mouth.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 15:52:35 GMT
So why didn't he do it? What Cup glory have we had? If Pulis had presided over the previous season and a half of dross and spent 50m on three duds (early days for Wimmer I accept), you'd have been frothing at the mouth. I would, mainly because he is a shit house.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 22, 2017 17:48:40 GMT
yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been You dont seem to ever offer constructive debate just abusive tirades against fellow Stoke fans Yes i fall out with fellow posters but never become abusive, try it some time 3puttsĀ Maybe I am just sick and tired of reading negative shit on here from so called fans who cannot even get off their arse and go to the game.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 22, 2017 17:51:18 GMT
If Pulis had presided over the previous season and a half of dross and spent 50m on three duds (early days for Wimmer I accept), you'd have been frothing at the mouth. I would, mainly because he is a shit house. Pulis is a shithouse? The man who got us promoted and kept us in the prem while also running marathons and climbing mountains for the Donna Louise hospice. This makes him a shithouse? I don't think so
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 18:02:39 GMT
I would, mainly because he is a shit house. Pulis is a shithouse? The man who got us promoted and kept us in the prem while also running marathons and climbing mountains for the Donna Louise hospice. This makes him a shithouse? I don't think so 100% shithouse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 18:03:06 GMT
You dont seem to ever offer constructive debate just abusive tirades against fellow Stoke fans Yes i fall out with fellow posters but never become abusive, try it some time 3puttsĀ Maybe I am just sick and tired of reading negative shit on here from so called fans who cannot even get off their arse and go to the game. As i said earlier 3putts if it is upsetting you that much it may be better to start your own forum where you can moderate the imputs that are upsetting you.Life is too short to get all stressed Could you do me a favour before you go though bud and tell me how you know if i (or others) go to the matches ?
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Post by 3putts on Sept 23, 2017 9:04:03 GMT
yes lets follow the norman smurthwaite model we know how succesful that has been Maybe I am being thick but not really sure what you mean, you will need to explain sorry
the question was "Start finding a replacement Coates" and I suggested the ex Dortmund Manager Tuchel. Not really sure why that's odd but please enlighten me
yes you are thick. i think its disgraceful to undermine our manager in this way. we should be grateful to have a manager of mark hughes calibre.but instead we have this constant internet swiping. thank heaven i actually go to matches and so can revel in supporting stoke city with like minded souls instead of the poison spreaders on here. byebye keyboard warriors i have to get ready.
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 23, 2017 9:08:40 GMT
I would, mainly because he is a shit house. Pulis is a shithouse? The man who got us promoted and kept us in the prem while also running marathons and climbing mountains for the Donna Louise hospice. This makes him a shithouse? I don't think so One day I'd like to see a statue of Tone outside the ground. He was one of our most influential managers of all time, and is responsible for the legacy we see at the club today....stability and relative success. He has his faults but he will always be a legend to me....he gave this club its pride back. I will say that I am also a fan of Hughes and it was was right that Tone went when he did....but he is a legend. And I don't care who knows it.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 23, 2017 9:14:10 GMT
Maybe I am just sick and tired of reading negative shit on here from so called fans who cannot even get off their arse and go to the game. As i said earlier 3putts if it is upsetting you that much it may be better to start your own forum where you can moderate the imputs that are upsetting you.Life is too short to get all stressed Could you do me a favour before you go though bud and tell me how you know if i (or others) go to the matches ? i have no idea if you or anyone else goes to matches but what i do know is that there has been a sizeable shift in oatcakers who do attend games and those who dont. imo when the oatcake first came on the scene i would guess that 90% of participants went to games. howether present day i would say less than 10% attend which is clear in the differing mood at the ground compared to on here. i would welcome and happily pay for a forum consisting of s/t holders old and new i am sure then we could have a sensible debate.
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