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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2017 13:34:17 GMT
It is a squad game. And if everyone is fit the squad players should stay just as that. Anyone picking that team in a very tough away fixture in a competition we should be aspiring to win is pretty mental in my opinion...... It's cup suicide is what it is Adam, Verlinden, Souttar and Edwards as subs would be fine but I wouldn't put them in a starting XI for an away game what will be much tougher than the Rochdale game I'd start Berahino though, really really needs a goal, and Sobhi should play too. Tymon, hmm, he didn't do bad at all against Rochdale. Worth a go? Possibly. Why is it? These players need games and this is an ideal one for them. Bristol are a good side but our reserves still should beat them. Edwards, Tymon and Ramadan is a minimum imo, they need game time and this is the chance for it.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 13, 2017 13:36:27 GMT
Not sure I'd play Crouch considering their defender (Flint) is the same size as him. Time for Berahino to get his season going. My goodness he's a bit scary Brum tried to buy him in the window but Bristol City wouldn't let him go. He scores a fair few.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 13:59:40 GMT
It is a squad game. And if everyone is fit the squad players should stay just as that. Anyone picking that team in a very tough away fixture in a competition we should be aspiring to win is pretty mental in my opinion...... But it's a squad game. You're being silly now. I repeat my original point, if you want to pick the team you stated in a competition we can win then thank fuck you're not the manager.....
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 13, 2017 14:15:58 GMT
It's cup suicide is what it is Adam, Verlinden, Souttar and Edwards as subs would be fine but I wouldn't put them in a starting XI for an away game what will be much tougher than the Rochdale game I'd start Berahino though, really really needs a goal, and Sobhi should play too. Tymon, hmm, he didn't do bad at all against Rochdale. Worth a go? Possibly. Why is it? These players need games and this is an ideal one for them. Bristol are a good side but our reserves still should beat them. Edwards, Tymon and Ramadan is a minimum imo, they need game time and this is the chance for it. Don't get me wrong Bayern I agree that the players need game time, I just feel uneasy about chucking them in the first team in an away cup match we need to win. I agree with Sobhi and Tymon then. But Edwards, Souttar and Verlinden I personally wouldn't start. That's just me. I'd bring them on from the bench if it were 2-0 or something. I don't want it coming across like I'm doubting their ability though.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2017 14:55:57 GMT
....................Grant...................... ......Zouma..........BMI.........Wimmer........ Edwards.......Allen.......Adam.........Tymon... ......Berahino......Crouch......Sobhi..........
Subs: Butland, Fletcher, Shawcross, Cameron, Jese, Chapou, Diouf, Johnson.
I really want most of our subs to rest as much as possible as I don't want to see them injured! I think I only would let Jese and Johnson play if not necessary! I especially feel we must protect Shawcross, Cameron and Chapou, but also Diouf if possible!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 15:00:30 GMT
Grant
Zouma Martins Indi Wimmer
Sobhi Allen Fletcher Tymon
Shaqiri Berahino Choupo-Moting
Subs: Butland, Edwards, Souttar, Adam, Verlinden, Diouf, Crouch
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2017 15:01:30 GMT
You're being silly now. I repeat my original point, if you want to pick the team you stated in a competition we can win then thank fuck you're not the manager..... The irony. The squad is good, it should be used.
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 13, 2017 15:03:15 GMT
Grant and sobhi have to play. They are key back up and have to have match sharpness when needed.
Grant for Butland Sobhi for shaq
Otherwise as v man utd
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2017 15:05:02 GMT
Why is it? These players need games and this is an ideal one for them. Bristol are a good side but our reserves still should beat them. Edwards, Tymon and Ramadan is a minimum imo, they need game time and this is the chance for it. Don't get me wrong Bayern I agree that the players need game time, I just feel uneasy about chucking them in the first team in an away cup match we need to win. I agree with Sobhi and Tymon then. But Edwards, Souttar and Verlinden I personally wouldn't start. That's just me. I'd bring them on from the bench if it were 2-0 or something. I don't want it coming across like I'm doubting their ability though. We don't need to win it. I'm very blaze with the League Cup tbh. Edwards and Verlinden in particular need game time and have imo been underused by us thus far. This is a fantastic chance to use them and to maybe get them a loan for January because wasting about in our squad with no chance of playing even in a cup game we should win isn't the way forward. Agreed Souttar but I want to see him in the deep end just to see if he sinks or swims because if he swims then we have a hell of a player. But it may be too soon. It isn't coming across like that at all. I just don't like us playing strong teams in the early round of the league cup.
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Post by marwood on Sept 13, 2017 15:13:58 GMT
Don't get me wrong Bayern I agree that the players need game time, I just feel uneasy about chucking them in the first team in an away cup match we need to win. I agree with Sobhi and Tymon then. But Edwards, Souttar and Verlinden I personally wouldn't start. That's just me. I'd bring them on from the bench if it were 2-0 or something. I don't want it coming across like I'm doubting their ability though. We don't need to win it. I'm very blaze with the League Cup tbh. Edwards and Verlinden in particular need game time and have imo been underused by us thus far. This is a fantastic chance to use them and to maybe get them a loan for January because wasting about in our squad with no chance of playing even in a cup game we should win isn't the way forward. Agreed Souttar but I want to see him in the deep end just to see if he sinks or swims because if he swims then we have a hell of a player. But it may be too soon. It isn't coming across like that at all. I just don't like us playing strong teams in the early round of the league cup. are you "ablaze with passion" or "blasé", the latter being for me when someone offers me a blancmange, or Lighthouse Family CD?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2017 15:23:24 GMT
We don't need to win it. I'm very blaze with the League Cup tbh. Edwards and Verlinden in particular need game time and have imo been underused by us thus far. This is a fantastic chance to use them and to maybe get them a loan for January because wasting about in our squad with no chance of playing even in a cup game we should win isn't the way forward. Agreed Souttar but I want to see him in the deep end just to see if he sinks or swims because if he swims then we have a hell of a player. But it may be too soon. It isn't coming across like that at all. I just don't like us playing strong teams in the early round of the league cup. are you "ablaze with passion" or "blasé", the latter being for me when someone offers me a blancmange, or Lighthouse Family CD? I thought the second was spelt with a z and I'm fecked if I can figure out how to do an accent on this computer!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 13, 2017 15:27:19 GMT
We don't need to win it. I'm very blaze with the League Cup tbh. Edwards and Verlinden in particular need game time and have imo been underused by us thus far. This is a fantastic chance to use them and to maybe get them a loan for January because wasting about in our squad with no chance of playing even in a cup game we should win isn't the way forward. Agreed Souttar but I want to see him in the deep end just to see if he sinks or swims because if he swims then we have a hell of a player. But it may be too soon. It isn't coming across like that at all. I just don't like us playing strong teams in the early round of the league cup. are you "ablaze with passion" or "blasé", the latter being for me when someone offers me a blancmange, or Lighthouse Family CD? Don't diss the 'mange.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 13, 2017 17:46:58 GMT
I have never understood this current trend for playing the reserve goalkeeper in cup matches. Surely goalkeeper is the one position where the player is not going to get tired so why is he rested?
We are more likely to win this match with Butland in goal than Grant so why are you all picking Grant in your teams?
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Post by davethebass on Sept 13, 2017 17:48:41 GMT
Don't get me wrong Bayern I agree that the players need game time, I just feel uneasy about chucking them in the first team in an away cup match we need to win. I agree with Sobhi and Tymon then. But Edwards, Souttar and Verlinden I personally wouldn't start. That's just me. I'd bring them on from the bench if it were 2-0 or something. I don't want it coming across like I'm doubting their ability though. We don't need to win it. I'm very blaze with the League Cup tbh. Edwards and Verlinden in particular need game time and have imo been underused by us thus far. This is a fantastic chance to use them and to maybe get them a loan for January because wasting about in our squad with no chance of playing even in a cup game we should win isn't the way forward. Agreed Souttar but I want to see him in the deep end just to see if he sinks or swims because if he swims then we have a hell of a player. But it may be too soon. It isn't coming across like that at all. I just don't like us playing strong teams in the early round of the league cup. Sorry to play the "I was around in the seventies" card mate, but I'm glad we weren't blasé about the league cup this time in 1971!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 13, 2017 17:51:26 GMT
We need a strong side because for me they're a decent championship outfit who certainly know where the net is. As for Aiden Flint he's a man mountain but pretty poor on the deck so playing Crouch for me just plays into their hands.Hes a local Derbyshire lad I think having started at Alfreton Town
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 13, 2017 17:59:38 GMT
I have never understood this current trend for playing the reserve goalkeeper in cup matches. Surely goalkeeper is the one position where the player is not going to get tired so why is he rested? We are more likely to win this match with Butland in goal than Grant so why are you all picking Grant in your teams? Because Grant is brill and if shit happens with Jack it's best to use any opportunities to keep him sharp. Like you say it's not about fitness and running, more about the eye and that. It's a good policy.
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Post by lichfieldboy on Sept 13, 2017 18:02:24 GMT
Edwards hasn't even appeared for the u23's since getting injured at the start of the season so I doubt he will go straight to the bench for this. Verlinden has had 23's game time so is more likely. 23's are away at Southampton the day before so if he doesn't feature there I'm sure he will be involved.
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Post by bodeywankenobi on Sept 13, 2017 19:46:52 GMT
Brum tried to buy him in the window but Bristol City wouldn't let him go. He scores a fair few. He scored for Swindon, against us, when we played them in 2012 and they beat us 4-3.
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 13, 2017 20:48:05 GMT
Grant
Zouma Indi Wimmer
Diouf Fletcher captain Adam Tymon
Sobhi Berahino Choupo
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 13, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
Play the strongest team possible, get them used to winning.
My first away game this season so looking forward to it.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 13, 2017 21:50:32 GMT
If Hughes does not start with Berahino this one is it safe to assume he has given up on him ?, surely he has to back his own judgment now he should have started against Rochdale the ideal opportunity to gain some confidence.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 13, 2017 21:55:16 GMT
If Hughes does not start with Berahino this one is it safe to assume he has given up on him ?, surely he has to back his own judgment now he should have started against Rochdale the ideal opportunity to gain some confidence. Feel better having got that off yer chests?
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Post by kastro on Sept 14, 2017 14:58:04 GMT
If Sobhi had a consistent run in the first team, I'm sure we'd have seen productivity by now. He's been good in all of his brief appearances. Other clubs are watching closely and it would be Stoke's loss.
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Post by marwood on Sept 17, 2017 12:45:12 GMT
Grant Zouma Martins Indi Wimmer Sobhi Allen Fletcher Tymon Shaqiri Berahino Choupo-Moting Subs: Butland, Edwards, Souttar, Adam, Verlinden, Diouf, Crouch I'd go with this, especially with Saido an unused sub yesterday
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 17, 2017 19:08:29 GMT
Grant Zouma Martins Indi Wimmer Sobhi Allen Fletcher Tymon Shaqiri Berahino Choupo-Moting Subs: Butland, Edwards, Souttar, Adam, Verlinden, Diouf, Crouch I'd go with this, especially with Saido an unused sub yesterday Yeah me too, but perhaps Adam instead of either Allen or Fletch. And Afellay/Verlinden instead of Shaq. Oh and if Ryan's fit then maybe rehearse the proposed Chelsea back three. Whatever that might be.
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Post by geekenny on Sept 17, 2017 19:35:03 GMT
442
Grant Johnson Zouma Wimmer Tymon Shaq Adam Allen Ramadan Crouch Berahino
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Post by Gods on Sept 17, 2017 19:49:09 GMT
I'd play the best team we have including Butland, we have a marginally better team and they have home advantage, it's even stevens, we need to tilt the odds in our favour or wave goodbye to this competition.
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Post by jordan9915 on Sept 17, 2017 19:57:58 GMT
I think berahino needs to start this one, a game like this is the perfect way to get a goal. Wouldn't risk choupo as I think he was our best player behind shaq on satuday. I think we may aswell use zouma as we don't have him for Chelsea and we don't want an upset. Cameron and shawcross out isn't helping us for a cup game but hopefully they'll be back for Chelsea. I also think Allen and Jesé have had 2 poor games ( man united and Newcastle) so I would give them a run out for a positive performance. I'd go with
Grant
Zouma Wimmer Bruno
Verlinden Adam Allen tymon
Ramadan Berahino Jesé
Also, would someone going be able to get me a match day programme and I'll give them the money at the Chelsea game? Thank youuu
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 17, 2017 20:00:01 GMT
I'd play the best team we have including Butland, we have a marginally better team and they have home advantage, it's even stevens, we need to tilt the odds in our favour or wave goodbye to this competition. You think we have a marginally better team than a team who finished 17th in the Championship last season?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 17, 2017 20:04:41 GMT
We should play the best team we have.
But we should try Edwards at right back as in my opinion the Diouf experiment there is a mistake and I don't think it has worked at all.
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