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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2017 7:27:12 GMT
Everything seems to be coming together on the pitch. But for heaven's sake even a blind man can see we dont have a proper LWB to play 3-4-3.
Are there ANY legit rumours we are in the market for a LWB?
Is Hughes hoping Tymon can displace Pieters this season and play that position?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2017 7:31:06 GMT
And a RWB. Dioufy should be an emergency one, not our starting one.
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 8, 2017 7:32:38 GMT
Everything seems to be coming together on the pitch. But for heaven's sake even a blind man can see we dont have a proper LWB to play 3-4-3. Are there ANY legit rumours we are in the market for a LWB? Is Hughes hoping Tymon can displace Pieters this season and play that position? Someone on the Summer Transfers thread said we're in for Dennis Aogo |
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Post by leoncort on Aug 8, 2017 7:33:26 GMT
Tymon seemed a bit out of his depth in pre season, not sure he's ready to play 38 premier league games in a team with top half ambitions. If BMI comes in, then a DM then i think as you say hughes' plan is coming together so i guess we must trust that he will invest in full back areas.
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Post by pottarius on Aug 8, 2017 7:33:34 GMT
Everything seems to be coming together on the pitch. But for heaven's sake even a blind man can see we dont have a proper LWB to play 3-4-3. Are there ANY legit rumours we are in the market for a LWB? Is Hughes hoping Tymon can displace Pieters this season and play that position? I have a feeling he thinks Delph can play there. He might be correct of course, but its a big risk (especially for 12M+! and Gibbs being available for seeming less wedge) |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 8, 2017 7:38:11 GMT
He might be looking for one. We don't know. Hopefully he can see it.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2017 8:03:28 GMT
Im not worried about RWB
Diouf - looks awesome there
Johnson - Everyone seems to hate him but his first season with us was excellent. Needs to re-find that form after a disappointing previous season. But Im still a fan of his, and with competition for his spot should see him raise his game.
Its just LWB we need
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Post by nantwichstokie on Aug 8, 2017 8:14:55 GMT
Im not worried about RWB Diouf - looks awesome there Johnson - Everyone seems to hate him but his first season with us was excellent. Needs to re-find that form after a disappointing previous season. But Im still a fan of his, and with competition for his spot should see him raise his game. Its just LWB we need Agreed regarding the Johnson hate. People forget he was one of our better players that year. The only problem is rediscovering his form of 2 years ago at his age is a bit trickier than when you're in your mid 20's! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2017 8:17:11 GMT
And a right one.
If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side.
Butland
Zouma Shawcross Indi
New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB
Shaq Moting
Diouf
Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 8, 2017 8:22:14 GMT
Im not worried about RWB Diouf - looks awesome there Johnson - Everyone seems to hate him but his first season with us was excellent. Needs to re-find that form after a disappointing previous season. But Im still a fan of his, and with competition for his spot should see him raise his game. Its just LWB we need It should be a role just made for Johnson if he still had anything left to offer but sadly his performances for a good long period suggest that he simply hasn't got it either mentally or physically to do it. The failure to move him on (when the general mood seems to be to let senior players go) when there was an opportunity, and then to extend his contract, remains one of the more baffling aspects of recent times. We live in hope but I have a feeling it could be another season where he spends most of his time in the treatment room. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2017 8:28:55 GMT
And a right one. If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side. Butland Zouma Shawcross Indi New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB Shaq Moting Diouf Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more. It's obvious his legs have gone but why can't Hughes see it? It's like he's carrying a fridge on his back whenever he has to run back to his own goal. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2017 8:37:46 GMT
And a right one. If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side. Butland Zouma Shawcross Indi New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB Shaq Moting Diouf Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more. It's obvious his legs have gone but why can't Hughes see it? It's like he's carrying a fridge on his back whenever he has to run back to his own goal. No idea and it's painful to watch. He's even developed a nervousness on the ball, which is just isn't him. It's like he knows he's going to fuck up. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 8, 2017 8:45:33 GMT
Couldn't muni do us a back up job at LWB as he would have cover if Bruno was on the left side of a back three. Think muni has always been better attacking down the left channel,remember Sunderland in the league cup?
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 8, 2017 9:05:21 GMT
And a right one. If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side. Butland Zouma Shawcross Indi New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB Shaq Moting Diouf Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more. I think sobhi would make a good rwb. He just needs games. His legs haven't gone! And he can cross it from the right, just not the left! |
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Post by TheRealTimShady on Aug 8, 2017 9:09:51 GMT
Couldn't muni do us a back up job at LWB as he would have cover if Bruno was on the left side of a back three. Think muni has always been better attacking down the left channel,remember Sunderland in the league cup? In my opinion I don't think muniesa has the stamina to bomb up and down the wing all match. He undoubtedly has more quality than Pieters going forward but he would be going off after 20 minutes with an injury every week. |
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Post by TheRealTimShady on Aug 8, 2017 9:13:11 GMT
Think Diouf has had some of his best performances for us at wingback however do people think we should be using a sticker as our first choice wingback. The second he has a poor game everyone will be moaning saying why are we play a striker at rwb.
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Post by TheRealTimShady on Aug 8, 2017 9:16:11 GMT
And a right one. If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side. Butland Zouma Shawcross Indi New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB Shaq Moting Diouf Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more. I think sobhi would make a good rwb. He just needs games. His legs haven't gone! And he can cross it from the right, just not the left! Would be interesting to see him play there but it won't happen now. Hughes would have tested him out there in the friendly's if he thought he had the appropriate attributes for the position. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2017 9:20:22 GMT
Do people see Diouf as a long-term option there? Is he going to be able to bring the ball forward and cross the ball consistently well?
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Post by CashBack on Aug 8, 2017 9:20:29 GMT
Glen Johnson shouldn't be anywhere near a Premier League Team. It's a shame as he was great in his first year but he can't track runners, can't make simple 5 yard passes and he is caught out of position countless times. He also can't complete 3-4 games in a row due to injury proneness. This isn't just a couple of months it has been glaringly obvious for the last year plus pre-season. The few that rate him on here constantly go on about his great form in his first year as the reason we should carry him in games. We will concede less goals without him on the pitch.
I also don't understand why Diouf is suddenly the answer to our RWB prayers. Good player with a great engine but has everyone forgot he also can't complete a run of games due to niggling injuries. I've lost count the amount of times (quite a few when playing on the right) that he had to be subbed off because he had ran himself into the ground and/or caught a small injury, we then didn't see him in the starting line up for 1-2 games after. I admit this was generally due to the fact he ran his socks off and played a blinder making fantastic last ditch tackles not many strikers can.
We need a solid to good RB/RWB that can complete 38 games. Same for the LWB/LB spot, Pieters can but is he good enough for those 38 is the question?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2017 9:25:19 GMT
I do think Muniesa is a better option that Pieters at wing-back.
It was a bit crazy last season when Muniesa was at CB with Pieters outside him on the wing. Hughes should have swapped them around.
Muniesa does have issues with his hamstrings so maybe thats why he cant get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes I suppose. But worth a go.
IF we go with Pieters at LWB this season its a great big weakness that everyone can see and exploit. His crossing and passing is simply woeful, meaning we can only attack down the right.
HUGHES GET IT SORTED
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Post by samba :) on Aug 8, 2017 9:34:27 GMT
And a RWB. Dioufy should be an emergency one, not our starting one. nah diouf is the perfect wingback, we need a diouf v2 on the left |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 8, 2017 9:36:48 GMT
And a right one. If we could them then the following team actually looks pretty balanced, defensively solid, has enough in attack to worry teams and just a generally all round good side. Butland Zouma Shawcross Indi New RWB Fletcher Allen New LWB Shaq Moting Diouf Re Johnson-his legs have gone, he can't run any more. It's obvious his legs have gone but why can't Hughes see it? It's like he's carrying a fridge on his back whenever he has to run back to his own goal. A fridge haha! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 9:47:46 GMT
Im not worried about RWB Diouf - looks awesome there Johnson - Everyone seems to hate him but his first season with us was excellent. Needs to re-find that form after a disappointing previous season. But Im still a fan of his, and with competition for his spot should see him raise his game. Its just LWB we need Agreed regarding the Johnson hate. People forget he was one of our better players that year. The only problem is rediscovering his form of 2 years ago at his age is a bit trickier than when you're in your mid 20's! Yes his form was poor but he was never really fully fit. He probably carried one or two injuries throughout the season even when officially he was declared fit - fit as you all know is a very relative term, especially over the course of a season. His pre-season form hasn't been impressive, but, if we play 4 at the back, for Edwards' sake, Johnson needs to play at his best for those early season tough games. If we manage to escape with a few points, then we can throw Tom in, to see how well he does. Diouf I don't see as a fullscale back, and I very much doubt he sees himself playing there any other time except in emergencies or to change playing style for late match impact. He's not perfect but he's probably the best striker we have on our books (certainly the quickest), so we should play him up front. As we've lost one striker without replacing him (Walters), we cannot afford to not play him in his best position. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 8, 2017 9:48:01 GMT
Do people see Diouf as a long-term option there? Is he going to be able to bring the ball forward and cross the ball consistently well? Watch the post Leipzig interview with him on SCFC+ when he's asked about playing RWB. Looked like he'd been asked if he'd ever caught his parents having sex on the kitchen table when he got home from school early. Not sure he's happy about it but is doing his duty. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2017 9:48:58 GMT
Looked more like a fridge freezer, the bloke is a spent force why we extended his contract is a complete mystery  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 10:01:26 GMT
Agreed. Should not be near the first team!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2017 10:04:31 GMT
And a RWB. Dioufy should be an emergency one, not our starting one. nah diouf is the perfect wingback, we need a diouf v2 on the left Nobody who can cross a football then? |
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Post by samba :) on Aug 8, 2017 10:05:32 GMT
nah diouf is the perfect wingback, we need a diouf v2 on the left Nobody who can cross a football then? joselu doesnt mind dioifs crossing |
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Post by alster on Aug 8, 2017 10:05:49 GMT
Think Diouf has had some of his best performances for us at wingback however do people think we should be using a sticker as our first choice wingback. The second he has a poor game everyone will be moaning saying why are we play a striker at rwb. He works his socks off and is surprisingly effective defensively but he just doesn't have the quality of delivery to play the position well there is no shape on the ball when he has to play it in he just stabs at it and hopes for the best. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 8, 2017 10:16:50 GMT
Couldn't muni do us a back up job at LWB as he would have cover if Bruno was on the left side of a back three. Think muni has always been better attacking down the left channel,remember Sunderland in the league cup? In my opinion I don't think muniesa has the stamina to bomb up and down the wing all match. He undoubtedly has more quality than Pieters going forward but he would be going off after 20 minutes with an injury every week. you might be right mate but he would probably do as a back up! |
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