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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 14, 2017 14:46:56 GMT
I think Newcastle are going to be disappointed. Not fussed in the slightest about this. I am slightly surprised by the gnashing of teeth. I was expecting us to have a real struggle to get our money back and having to settle for a loan in the end. Then Bolton and St Pauli happened. I'd be very surprised if he was a success. He's a real wimp
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 14, 2017 14:48:09 GMT
Was the question, who will Newcastle United sign from Stoke City? LOL.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 14, 2017 14:49:04 GMT
Was the question, who will Newcastle United sign from Stoke City? LOL.
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Post by tuum on Aug 14, 2017 14:51:07 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks this is good business? I am chuffed that it looks like we will get our money back. I had written it off. He would have lasted 6 games if Hughes had chosen to play him. I don't rate him despite his pre season goals.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2017 14:51:14 GMT
Got to admit, the sense on Tyneside is tentative optimism. He's never really had a great scoring record, but you all seem pretty disappointed to see him go (if he does complete his medical obvs). Our biggest worry is that he's not really featured for you, he didn't score loads before he joined you, he's only costing us £5m in an inflated market and he doesn't seem like he'll slot straight into Benitez's favoured striking role. He is currently perceived as being slightly less crap than our other striking options on the back of scoring some goals in pre-season. Had you asked the question prior to the 27th July and our game pre-season game against Bolton, you'd have been hard pressed to find anyone saying anything other than "I can offer him a lift". He has potential for sure but he's mid 27 isn't he so when does potential turn into "he's crap". The answer is probably when he does nothing for you guys as well.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 14, 2017 14:51:55 GMT
I think Newcastle are going to be disappointed. Not fussed in the slightest about this. I am slightly surprised by the gnashing of teeth. I was expecting us to have a real struggle to get our money back and having to settle for a loan in the end. Then Bolton and St Pauli happened. I'd be very surprised if he was a success. He's a real wimp He's no worse than any of our other strikers, though. All of them are decent but limited in some way. I actually think he was our most natural finisher.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 14, 2017 14:53:52 GMT
I am slightly surprised by the gnashing of teeth. I was expecting us to have a real struggle to get our money back and having to settle for a loan in the end. Then Bolton and St Pauli happened. I'd be very surprised if he was a success. He's a real wimp He's no worse than any of our other strikers, though. All of them are decent but limited in some way. I actually think he was our most natural finisher. I'd still take Diouf over him any day of the week (but he's our new right-back! ) But I agree with you generally. They're all flawed, and he does have some talent, definitely. It's always more annoying when someone's main flaws aren't to do with a lack of ability (as with him)
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Post by tuum on Aug 14, 2017 14:53:58 GMT
Got to admit, the sense on Tyneside is tentative optimism. He's never really had a great scoring record, but you all seem pretty disappointed to see him go (if he does complete his medical obvs). Our biggest worry is that he's not really featured for you, he didn't score loads before he joined you, he's only costing us £5m in an inflated market and he doesn't seem like he'll slot straight into Benitez's favoured striking role. I think we have got the best deal out of this. If he does a job for you then fair play. I have no axe to grind and wish him well. I am glad it is at another club though.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2017 14:55:12 GMT
Walters didn't leave because of Berahino. Stop making shit up. Walters was quoted in the irish media has saying that berahino was getting picked ahead of him ' even though he wasn't playing particularly well ' You can interpet that how you like Walters is a fucking mardarse who demanded to play when he didn't deserve to and consistently threatened to leave if he wasn't picked. Suffice to say, the two faced fucker didn't complain too much when his ridiculously limited ability were keeping the far greater talents of Ricardo Fuller on the bench. So in summary I interpret that as "Walters is a two faced mardarse who we are better off without"!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 14, 2017 14:56:06 GMT
I like him and I'm sorry to see him go but as Dave says, he has just as much potential to not make it as make it.
So Hughes' biggest fees paid at the club:
Imbula - going Berahino - not looking too good Allen - going? Shaq - starting to look the part after a couple of hit and miss seasons Bruno - excellent Joselu - going
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 14:56:55 GMT
I think Newcastle are going to be disappointed. Not fussed in the slightest about this. Certainly feel like some are remembering his performances for us through rose-tinted glasses. He probably did deserve to be given more of a chance in the 15-16 season (although, I'll be honest, his performance at Luton was probably the worst debut I can recall seeing from a player. It was terrible ) especially after his exploits against Swansea and Everton. But is he really good enough to be battling Prem defenders week-in, week-out? He looked very lightweight and I remain unconvinced that he has enough other tools in his locker to make up for his lack of presence. Lovely striker of the ball mind if/when he finds some space. If we're not going to use him, we might as well get rid. Getting our money back is good business imho.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 14, 2017 14:57:55 GMT
I can't lie, I think this is fucking wank. It's like when Pulis shafted Tuncay. Hughes buys a lot of "crap" players, doesn't he? What a difference a pointless pre season makes hey? "True. I have to be honest, I have been a little bit disappointed with Joselu, overall. He's showed promise at times, but he doesn't "gamble" enough for me, as if he lacks a striker's instinct. I'm not even sure he could have scored the goal Diouf did." Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/257287/joselu-everyones-opinion?page=3#ixzz4pk3LGf8uTransparent
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 14:58:44 GMT
A Joselu is the answer.
Q How do you piss off a Spanish waiter even more with a championship attack line when your chairman won't open the purse strings 😬
With our luck he'll hit 20 if he goes barcodes on us 😒
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 14, 2017 14:59:28 GMT
Walked past a shop window full of them waving cat things pre-match saturday. Thought it was an omen, it wasn't.
Good luck to the ref kisser.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 14, 2017 15:04:29 GMT
I think Newcastle are going to be disappointed. Not fussed in the slightest about this. I am slightly surprised by the gnashing of teeth. I was expecting us to have a real struggle to get our money back and having to settle for a loan in the end. Then Bolton and St Paui happened. I'd be very surprised if he was a success. He's a real wimp He's got great technique but he's clearly not cut out for the hustle and bustle of the Prem, or maybe even any top level football really. Cheerio Jos
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 14, 2017 15:07:06 GMT
Whether he's the answer or not, he's the second best striker after Diouf currently on our books, and I think we all know LMH isn't going to be picking Diouf as a striker.
The Jese loan, if it goes ahead, to me looks more the sort of "taking a gamble" deal that should be made as a back up, not to provide our main goal threat.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Aug 14, 2017 15:09:00 GMT
Looked absolutely class outside the box with respect to both his hold up play and finishing, particularly had a knack of finding the bottom corner from 20 yards, but never seemed to attack the space inside the box when someone was in a good position out wide - always going to limit his goal return. Crouch is a better short-term solution and I don't think Joselu was ever going to be the long-term answer so not bothered by seeing him go.
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 14, 2017 15:23:40 GMT
Can see it now. Oatcake meltdown when Joselu scores his 12 th goal of the season in Jan/Feb.
To be fair a move is probably the best thing for all parties.
If he goes I wish him well.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 14, 2017 15:24:21 GMT
If he does well it will raise questions about the ability of our coaching staff to develop and use attacking players effectively
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 14, 2017 15:28:22 GMT
I can't lie, I think this is fucking wank. It's like when Pulis shafted Tuncay. Hughes buys a lot of "crap" players, doesn't he? What a difference a pointless pre season makes hey? "True. I have to be honest, I have been a little bit disappointed with Joselu, overall. He's showed promise at times, but he doesn't "gamble" enough for me, as if he lacks a striker's instinct. I'm not even sure he could have scored the goal Diouf did." Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/257287/joselu-everyones-opinion?page=3#ixzz4pk3LGf8uTransparent Fair play, you got me, but I have also said many times before preseason that he should have been paired with Diouf. All our strikers lack something and at least 3 of them work best in a front 2.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 15:37:04 GMT
Got to admit, the sense on Tyneside is tentative optimism. He's never really had a great scoring record, but you all seem pretty disappointed to see him go (if he does complete his medical obvs). Our biggest worry is that he's not really featured for you, he didn't score loads before he joined you, he's only costing us £5m in an inflated market and he doesn't seem like he'll slot straight into Benitez's favoured striking role. I think Rafa is a canny manager, who will get the best out of Joselu. Got a feeling this one may come back and bite us. Good luck to the lad and good luck to you Geordies for the coming season.
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Post by songthrush01 on Aug 14, 2017 15:39:36 GMT
think this is a mistake.i would of liked to see jos with bojan for a few games,thought they looked good together at bolton and so did a few other lads linking well with him.what does mark hughes see when sitting on that bench,i dont know.
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Post by alster on Aug 14, 2017 15:45:00 GMT
If he does well it will raise questions about the ability of our coaching staff to develop and use attacking players effectively Fucking hell how much evidence do you need to raise questions there's an encyclopedia of it already without Joselu doing anything.
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 14, 2017 15:50:13 GMT
Looked absolutely class outside the box with respect to both his hold up play and finishing, particularly had a knack of finding the bottom corner from 20 yards, but never seemed to attack the space inside the box when someone was in a good position out wide - always going to limit his goal return. Crouch is a better short-term solution and I don't think Joselu was ever going to be the long-term answer so not bothered by seeing him go. Just as I viewed him. When we attacked he stood 20metres from goal never attacked the penalty area. Quite weak in the air when challenged, though flick header goal v Norwich was him at his best. Great at getting a shot a goal and quite often on target. Though against Bolton and St Pauli preseason was totally different ran into spaces and stretched the defence plus confident finishes. For Dep Lac last year looked weak as a rule in the 3 games I watched but scored a couple of goals but not involved in much of the play.
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Post by miggoscfc on Aug 14, 2017 16:11:34 GMT
Walters didn't leave because of Berahino. Stop making shit up. Walters was quoted in the irish media has saying that berahino was getting picked ahead of him ' even though he wasn't playing particularly well ' You can interpet that how you like Find me the quote. first I've heard and Walters has never seemed the type to diss his team mates. Albeit he was unhappy at not playing but I don't believe he's called out Bera particularly.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2017 18:14:16 GMT
I am slightly surprised by the gnashing of teeth. I was expecting us to have a real struggle to get our money back and having to settle for a loan in the end. Then Bolton and St Pauli happened. I'd be very surprised if he was a success. He's a real wimp He's no worse than any of our other strikers, though. All of them are decent but limited in some way. I actually think he was our most natural finisher. They are all better than Berahino, he appears to have none of the attributes required to be a successful striker.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 14, 2017 18:14:17 GMT
Of all Hughes signings Joselu was the one I just wasn't convinced by. Technically good but despite what looked like the right physique just not physical enough to take the knocks or quick enough to avoid them. Therefore bound to be a success should he leave....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 18:50:54 GMT
Of all Hughes signings Joselu was the one I just wasn't convinced by. Technically good but despite what looked like the right physique just not physical enough to take the knocks or quick enough to avoid them. Therefore bound to be a success should he leave.... Christ. You only have one you haven't been convinced by??
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 14, 2017 18:54:26 GMT
I'm not arsed about him leaving.
He still should have started against Everton. He's a better option than Berahino.
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 14, 2017 18:57:43 GMT
Walters was quoted in the irish media has saying that berahino was getting picked ahead of him ' even though he wasn't playing particularly well ' You can interpet that how you like Walters is a fucking mardarse who demanded to play when he didn't deserve to and consistently threatened to leave if he wasn't picked. Suffice to say, the two faced fucker didn't complain too much when his ridiculously limited ability were keeping the far greater talents of Ricardo Fuller on the bench. So in summary I interpret that as "Walters is a two faced mardarse who we are better off without"! Broken record
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