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Post by swampySCFC on May 15, 2016 20:42:05 GMT
I think Hughes needs to make a call. We can't have a different striker playing every week. How are they supposed to develop an understanding. One thing I do know is that we are a better side when SJW is in it
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Post by lagwafis on May 15, 2016 20:48:02 GMT
My view has always been we're crying out for a more powerful, dynamic forward who can take a ball into feet in the final third, hold it up (especially when not facing goal) and bring players like Bojan, Shaqiri, Imbula etc. into the game. They're hard to find but not impossible when you look at Benteke at Villa, Pelle at Southampton (especially in his first season) and Lukaku (even if Chelsea got to him first).
Joselu is technically very good but doesn't strike as someone who'll lead the line. Diouf is more a player to get on the end of chances, playing off the shoulder of the defender rather than a hold up player. Crouch has done this role throughout his career but at his age it's a tough ask when he's got younger, stronger centre halves swamping him.
I think it's one of those major jigsaw pieces that'd make several other players we already have click into place. F**k knows where to find one though, that'll be Hughes' job!
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Post by soswalker1 on May 15, 2016 20:48:13 GMT
Not strong enough for prem could do worse than Troy Deeney needs physical presence all over pitch in this league
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Post by crapslinger on May 15, 2016 20:48:39 GMT
As predicted the old he needs more time chestnut pop's up , it is not just about his inability to score goals he has been here a full season and still looks pretty shit. We will find out next season, i don't expect he will be going anywhere... after all nobody has seen him play much. Lets hope he has a great "Preseason" Hughes see's him training every day, I can only assume he also thinks he is pretty shit.
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Post by soswalker1 on May 15, 2016 20:52:15 GMT
Not strong enough
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Post by backfrommeban on May 15, 2016 21:08:09 GMT
Not good enough... Cash in!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 15, 2016 21:23:13 GMT
He has ability but really does not look suited to our game , needs to do a lot of work over the summer to make his mark next season or he will be gone
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Post by Olgrligm on May 15, 2016 21:40:22 GMT
He does remind me a lot of a cheap version of Olivier Giroud.
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Post by NassauDave on May 15, 2016 22:29:36 GMT
Very gifted player but little application and no physical threat.
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Post by dave77 on May 15, 2016 22:34:50 GMT
I said the day we bought him that he was a terrible buy and this season hes proved me right. Aboslutely useless, get rid!
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Post by fentonstokie1 on May 15, 2016 22:44:27 GMT
Has never had a real run of games to fully judge him and it's notoriously hard to judge people on their first season. But.... ...assuming we go big on a £20m striker over the summer as the new main man, has he done enough for us to persevere with him next year in "the group". Or should we be looking to cut our losses? He doesn't strike me personally as someone who's going to be suited to the Premier League. Tidy player but lazy and weak, not good enough get rid!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2016 23:11:45 GMT
I like him but there's not a cat in hells chance he should be starting ahead of Diouf.
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Post by roostershair on May 15, 2016 23:16:18 GMT
I like Mame too. Needs a run in the side. Loved his goal celebration. RIP Mame's Mum.
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Post by cheadlestokie on May 15, 2016 23:18:49 GMT
Good ability but no fire in his belly
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Post by mrcoke on May 15, 2016 23:36:54 GMT
Averaging 7 goals a season inGermany, it is difficult to see what potential MH thought was in him.
May have been worth a punt but as it happens it hasn't worked out. Need to move him on at a loss and accept he was a mistake.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on May 16, 2016 10:01:06 GMT
I can't quite get my head around wheher it is the playing staff or the the system we play. But either way the "False number nine" isn't working for us. It worked a couple of times with Bojan there over Xmas and we've occasionally looked threatening (but no more) in the box when we've gone long and used Crouch. But by and large throughout the season our threat through the middle has been non existent whoever we've played there.
If Hughes is wedded to the method we probably need to find different players to suit. Alternatively a change of style might see the contributions of the likes of Diouf/Walters/Joselu improve - though in truth you would have to say Joselus lack of pace would probably work against him.
Ultimately I do think Joselu was brought in for the style we currently play and it was envisaged he would play far more of a leasding role than he has. That he hasn't is probably as much of a disappointment for him as it is for the rest of us.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 16, 2016 10:29:34 GMT
He can do a job as a bit part player but I don't think he's suited to being the main man for a whole season. We need to bring in a top quality striker. +1
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Post by Kjones9 on May 16, 2016 10:43:47 GMT
I think he needs to bulk up and show a bit more desire.
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Post by jarvinski on May 16, 2016 12:14:15 GMT
Lightweight, total waste of money get rid
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 12:36:47 GMT
Has talent and a good finish, doesn't show it enough due to a general lethargic attitude from playing in the sun. In fact that's just how he looks to me like a man playing footy on the beach in his flip flops.
Needs far more urgency and a different level of fitness.
On the plus side , he does have the skill if he can marry it with a better attitude.
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Post by rorymscfc on May 16, 2016 12:46:15 GMT
He's not as quick as Diouf He's not as strong or direct as SJW or Diouf He's nowhere near as good at holding the ball up & bringing others into play as Crouch From what I've seen he isn't any better in the air than Crouch Diouf or SJW.
Hard to see what he brings to the team really.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 16, 2016 12:47:11 GMT
Not sure he has the striker's instinct - on the rarer than they should be occasions that decent crosses are put in he doesn't seem to be attacking the spaces he should be. Reckon he might be good in a big man little man front two, but they've been out of fashion for about 20 years now. Can't ever see him working as a lone striker to be honest.
Lot of people referencing him not getting a run of games this season which is true for every one of our strikers really. Hughes seems to pick a front man, give them 3 games and then drop them. Think that's my biggest criticism of the manager this season, he's given all the front men a bit of a go but hasn't ever really backed any of them.
Can only see us bringing someone new in as I think he has lost faith in Diouf which is a shame as personally I wanted him back in the team for the last ten games or so to try and play him back into form/confidence.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 16, 2016 12:50:51 GMT
He is not special in any way (heading, tenacity, speed, skill, poaching) that marks out a striker for a top 10 team. If we get our main striker target and we can get most of our money back on him, I'd be tempted to let him go and keep Diouf (who, though not the answer, is far more likely to succeed in English football than him).
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Post by superheroantonius on May 16, 2016 12:53:09 GMT
Not strong enough for prem could do worse than Troy Deeney needs physical presence all over pitch in this league Agreed ... playing up front in the prem is not like marriage vows or a promise to a dying relative ... you have to mean it !!!!
When Terry Van Dijk Jagielka Alderweld Huth Dann etc are up against Joselu , they know straight away he is not up for it and just boss it .
It's different story when they have to play against Diouf Deeney Kane Carroll Benteke Pelle etc ... which probably explains why deeney kane and co collect a lot of bruises.
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Post by PB1863 on May 16, 2016 12:55:15 GMT
Very gifted player but little application and no physical threat. Summed all well. He has scored some nice goals this season though
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 16, 2016 16:46:41 GMT
He is OK, but we really need to bring in better if we are to improve on 9th.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 16, 2016 17:52:59 GMT
He is OK, but we really need to bring in better if we are to improve on 9th. That applies to quite a few players, to be fair.
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Post by kevkj on May 16, 2016 18:11:20 GMT
My Spanish mate couldnt believe how much we paid for him ,he reckoned a couple of million tops as he was a softie.Never get our money back on him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 16, 2016 18:16:13 GMT
He is OK, but we really need to bring in better if we are to improve on 9th. That applies to quite a few players, to be fair. I totally agree with you, but the thread is about Joselu.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 16, 2016 18:25:34 GMT
That applies to quite a few players, to be fair. I totally agree with you, but the thread is about Joselu. True. I have to be honest, I have been a little bit disappointed with Joselu, overall. He's showed promise at times, but he doesn't "gamble" enough for me, as if he lacks a striker's instinct. I'm not even sure he could have scored the goal Diouf did.
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