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Post by Davef on Jul 27, 2017 9:25:20 GMT
There's absolutely no doubt that Peter Coates will give him longer than six games. He's already given him 18 months grace and £60 million how much more does he need. Not really my point, but carry on.
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Post by mrred on Jul 27, 2017 11:02:37 GMT
Until about the 8th or 10th game. Until the transfer window dust settles. Until I see our formation and line up. Until then, there is only hope and faith. Anything less is disrespectful to those paid to do their jobs. Those who until now, have done an overall pretty good job. Let's just see where we end up. Dry knickers are a benefit. Some of you need to wring them out and hang them on the washing line. You can point the finger and suggest we're a bunch of over-reactive fannies, but lets not forget the 2 years it took to get to this point. This many people can't be wrong.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 27, 2017 11:06:45 GMT
Until about the 8th or 10th game. Until the transfer window dust settles. Until I see our formation and line up. Until then, there is only hope and faith. Anything less is disrespectful to those paid to do their jobs. Those who until now, have done an overall pretty good job. Let's just see where we end up. Dry knickers are a benefit. Some of you need to wring them out and hang them on the washing line. You can point the finger and suggest we're a bunch of over-reactive fannies, but lets not forget the 2 years it took to get to this point. This many people can't be wrong. You're a bunch of over-reactive fannies.
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Post by mrred on Jul 27, 2017 11:14:38 GMT
You can point the finger and suggest we're a bunch of over-reactive fannies, but lets not forget the 2 years it took to get to this point. This many people can't be wrong. You're a bunch of over-reactive fannies. You've got your head in the sand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 11:52:37 GMT
I just had a thought, perhaps Coates is saving his money for a new manager. Come December he may have to fork out for a new manager and back him with a couple of key signings. It has always seemed common sense to me to keep a bit of money in reserve for January. Everyone bar the top 6 (yes this next part includes Everton for any of their fans still lurking around) is one bad season away from being in a relegation battle, and keeping an emergency fund seems like a good idea. Just don't then do a Newcastle and sign Shelvey and Townsend when you are crying out for a defender and keeper.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 27, 2017 11:56:56 GMT
There's absolutely no doubt that Peter Coates will give him longer than six games. He's already given him 18 months grace and £60 million how much more does he need. £60million is fuck all. We're keeping up with clubs who have spent twice as much. Like Serge says, Coates will leave it to the October International break to start thinking about a replacement if we're having a shitter.
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Post by werrington on Jul 27, 2017 12:03:06 GMT
He's already given him 18 months grace and £60 million how much more does he need. £60million is fuck all. We're keeping up with clubs who have spent twice as much. Like Serge says, Coates will leave it to the October International break to start thinking about a replacement if we're having a shitter. Palace spent £35m on one player
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Post by stokie1 on Jul 27, 2017 12:06:50 GMT
He lost my trust a long time ago. I think 10 games will be his limit this season. I just hope we aren't so far adrift by then then it's not possible to resurrect it.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 27, 2017 12:13:51 GMT
He's already given him 18 months grace and £60 million how much more does he need. £60million is fuck all. We're keeping up with clubs who have spent twice as much. Like Serge says, Coates will leave it to the October International break to start thinking about a replacement if we're having a shitter. It is when it is wasted on players the manager doesn't play or plays them in the wrong positions.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 27, 2017 12:23:11 GMT
£60million is fuck all. We're keeping up with clubs who have spent twice as much. Like Serge says, Coates will leave it to the October International break to start thinking about a replacement if we're having a shitter. It is when it is wasted on players the manager doesn't play or plays them in the wrong positions. You could point to every single club in the league and make the same point. Transfers don't work out from time to time. We don't spend enough money on new footballers - it's a fact.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 27, 2017 12:26:43 GMT
It is when it is wasted on players the manager doesn't play or plays them in the wrong positions. You could point to every single club in the league and make the same point. Transfers don't work out from time to time. We don't spend enough money on new footballers - it's a fact. We spent £18 million on a player the manager scouted !, 18 months later he doesn't even make the squad would you give him your money to squander
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Post by stokeykez on Jul 27, 2017 12:27:43 GMT
I think we can only judge him when the transfer window shuts, this will give us a true reflection of how the board do or don't trust him. If there are no signings which looks more and more likely every day then that's a clear indication that pc is biding his time to give him the boot. Unfortunately fir us fans we may have to go backwards to go forward, if in the next few weeks hughesy gets his wishlist and the board are ambitious with investment then I think he's here to stay.
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 27, 2017 13:13:01 GMT
I won't judge Hughes until after 6 games. nob Thank you for your response you absolute weapon.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 27, 2017 14:57:35 GMT
You could point to every single club in the league and make the same point. Transfers don't work out from time to time. We don't spend enough money on new footballers - it's a fact. We spent £18 million on a player the manager scouted !, 18 months later he doesn't even make the squad would you give him your money to squander If he's the chosen manager then you have to back him. If you don't trust him then get rid and bring in someone you do. You have top spend in the PL.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 20:26:57 GMT
Dont forget, the premier league is all about winning at least ten football matches.You do that and the remaining points take care of themselves.This season can we honestly see those ten games given the last 18 months? A Few weeks ago i was begining to feel optimistic but, having now witnessed our pre season and, having watched good players leave whilst at least two have been appearing regularly in our pre season whose legs have actually gone, Im now not quite so sure.
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Post by steventaaffe on Jul 27, 2017 20:48:37 GMT
6 games is very fair. Do you think Coates will give him longer? With the season we've just had? No. We can't afford to piss around this season. Coates will give him 13 more games than you have. Before he even starts to think about a replacement. Peter will be giving him the whole season, then have a look at it next summer, Les won't be going anywhere, IMO!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 27, 2017 21:36:25 GMT
We spent £18 million on a player the manager scouted !, 18 months later he doesn't even make the squad would you give him your money to squander If he's the chosen manager then you have to back him. If you don't trust him then get rid and bring in someone you do. You have top spend in the PL. Pugs worryingly total agreement again , some of us were saying back in march the worst outcome Wouod be to keep the manager and not back him , sadly that's where we are , he is a stubborn and bright man and he won't walk and who can blame him he asked for soares , Redmond amd keane got none and guess their values now not to mention how they would improve us , imagine united saying to ferguson no more money after Veron .
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 28, 2017 9:08:04 GMT
If he's the chosen manager then you have to back him. If you don't trust him then get rid and bring in someone you do. You have top spend in the PL. Pugs worryingly total agreement again , some of us were saying back in march the worst outcome Wouod be to keep the manager and not back him , sadly that's where we are , he is a stubborn and bright man and he won't walk and who can blame him he asked for soares , Redmond amd keane got none and guess their values now not to mention how they would improve us , imagine united saying to ferguson no more money after Veron . There is no way Coates would keep Hughes or any manager in post without backing him - that's vindictive, suicidal or just plain stupid. The first six games aren't going to decide anything. If we look like relegation candidates in December we may have a change of manager at Xmas and anything less than 14th may well see a mutual parting of the ways at the end of the season. Anyone wanting Hughes gone can at least show some patience - however those first six games may as well be sponsored by Pampers. Unless we have a blinding start (and that's unlikely) it's going to be pretty moist on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 18:47:44 GMT
It's o.k. saying that, but two seasons ago we would have gone into games against the Arse and the shit (especially at home) with half a chance of beating them both. Not now I'm afraid, and don't bring up the draws against said shit last season, because we should have lost them both. By a comfortable margin as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 21:43:40 GMT
It's o.k. saying that, but two seasons ago we would have gone into games against the Arse and the shit (especially at home) with half a chance of beating them both. Not now I'm afraid, and don't bring up the draws against said shit last season, because we should have lost them both. By a comfortable margin as well. We will just have to wait and see what happens this season. Maybe we will beat the Arse and the shit at home.
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Post by Gods on Jul 28, 2017 21:53:00 GMT
Dont forget, the premier league is all about winning at least ten football matches.You do that and the remaining points take care of themselves.This season can we honestly see those ten games given the last 18 months? A Few weeks ago i was begining to feel optimistic but, having now witnessed our pre season and, having watched good players leave whilst at least two have been appearing regularly in our pre season whose legs have actually gone, Im now not quite so sure. You make a great point. Last season, for all our 4 goal thrashings and our failure once again to take down a Big 6 side, the one, almost the only thing, we did manage to accomplish was for the most part to beat the lesser teams at home, that's where the low hanging fruit is for out 10 wins and it saved our skin. Can we do it again, who knows...
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 28, 2017 21:57:28 GMT
We look to be on the arse end of a lower table place to me and I can't see anything being done about it which is the worse thing. We either can't attract or don't want to spend. Everyone needs to be firing day 1
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Post by keasie1863 on Jul 28, 2017 22:03:30 GMT
Until about the 8th or 10th game. Until the transfer window dust settles. Until I see our formation and line up. Until then, there is only hope and faith. Anything less is disrespectful to those paid to do their jobs. Those who until now, have done an overall pretty good job. Let's just see where we end up. Dry knickers are a benefit. Some of you need to wring them out and hang them on the washing line. Great post old bean
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 8:14:52 GMT
Transfer news. Nothing again! It's getting close! The season that is. Who thinks the defence is good enough? I don't.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jul 29, 2017 8:21:30 GMT
Utter bollocks thread. I can judge Hughes whenever I want and based on the last 18 months he'd better fucking pull his finger out.
The axe is getting sharpened Sparky!!!
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 29, 2017 8:52:07 GMT
More importantly does Peter Coates trust him sufficiently? At this current point in the transfer window I am concerned that the answer may be no.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 29, 2017 9:03:55 GMT
If we manage to get rid of Imbula to Torino we must be looking at spending £60M in the next 5 weeks so you'd hope Coates still trusts him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2017 9:06:06 GMT
I wish we'd sack him already. 😂
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Post by mozzer on Jul 29, 2017 9:57:44 GMT
Until about the 8th or 10th game. Until the transfer window dust settles. Until I see our formation and line up. Until then, there is only hope and faith. Anything less is disrespectful to those paid to do their jobs. Those who until now, have done an overall pretty good job. Let's just see where we end up. Dry knickers are a benefit. Some of you need to wring them out and hang them on the washing line. Got to be honest Old Stoke.... yours and my own point of view are usually very much aligned but on this one mate I have to differ, when I say differ it is only a timing difference on this as I thought exactly the same this time last year but unfortunately not this year We had a complete dog shit end to the 15/16 season with some of the most mind numbingly boring displays that I can ever remember at the Brit, we had a shit time from January 16 onwards and we were all hoping that MH knew as well as the people watching what was needed to make us a better team, unfortunately we went in to the pre season losing to teams like Burton and not signing players for the key positions that were required...CH & GK but to name two. Unfortunately we have just suffered another 12 months of shit tepid spineless league & cup football with a pre season following last years pattern regards performances and transfer dealings.....I am actually worried this time around OS and I am not a knicker wetter/Wrist slasher but neither am I a JCL happy clapping tourist who is willing to bury their head in the sand hoping that blind loyalty will make things better for the coming season. I am a realist...... I know we will not sign messi or Neymar unless they have an unfortunate accident and lose a leg just below the right knee or an eye drops out. I know that the addition of a 33 yr old midfielder from a local rival is to be looked at as a step in the right direction I know that we will not make the champions league but with another bit of ifs and maybes possibly scrape the euro tour on default I know that we will always be the most unglamorous and despised team in the prem who every fan loves to hate and ridicule I know that the pool of teams that we are grouped with include BHA, Burnley, WBA, Bournemouth & CP unlike the delude bastards that think we are now up there with NUFC, Villa or Everton because we have played in the Prem I know that we will always be more famous for our fans behaviour in the 80s & 90s than any of our footballing exploits of the last 30-40 years I know that we will never realistically win a major cup other than with the assistance of a great deal of luck and a little help from the hand of fate. I know that our main overview of a successful season is to just exist another year in the Prem to give the Coates family global advertising exposure for the 365 brand on a very, very cheap scale. This year mate, I am worried, I am very worried...will we get......... a boring season with plenty of hammerings followed by relegation a boring season with plenty of hammerings followed by survival by the tips of our finger nails or will we Get it right in the transfer market keping out of the bottom 3 with entertainment keeping defeats to acceptable scorelines with a small amount of success in a cup competion. Yes please Mr Hughes
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Post by RAF on Jul 29, 2017 10:11:39 GMT
You could point to every single club in the league and make the same point. Transfers don't work out from time to time. We don't spend enough money on new footballers - it's a fact. We spent £18 million on a player the manager scouted !, 18 months later he doesn't even make the squad would you give him your money to squander (whistle) Fergie spent 28 million on Veron 16 years ago. He sold him to Chelsea for 15 mill. He flopped at both clubs. Fergie tried to replace his best player Ronaldo when he sold him with Obertan. It happens to the best. I just can't fathom what is so hard to understand about this. H
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