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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are. Yeah a deregulated capitalist icon, where protest is virtually banned and they just gave workers nearly two weeks holiday recently. Low tax, low wage, no rights. This is what we voted for. It’s like a steel & glass dystopian glory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 19:53:18 GMT
If that's the case then you believe others did the same, there's no problem with a 2nd ref, because in a no deal vs remain, no deal would win. No. It's the principle ...why should there be another? I've just said that everyone knew what they were voting for.....government (((scare))) leaflet No way would they have questioned the vote if it was the other way around And let's face it the majority of your dislike is for the tories more than brexit Brexit is not Tory And for the record I'm not dead against a second ref just to shut the political elite up We all know they'd like to twist the rules to block a no deal tho Oh I'm not against Brexit at all, but I am against no deal. I think at this point enough has changed with how the past 3 years have gone that a call for a 2nd ref isn't a surprising or necessarily awful thing. Whatever the outcome, I get why people want it. and they're not traitors for doing so, as I've seen some point out on twitter etc.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 15, 2019 19:55:14 GMT
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Post by yeokel on Aug 15, 2019 20:02:25 GMT
I don’t think it has all been ‘rant’ There have, at times, been reasonable points made on both sides and healthy debate has raised its head from time to time. Other times have just found people going round and round in circles pointlessly. (and that still goes on & on these days, without anybody making any progress) I must admit that I, for one, feel better informed about things due to stuff I’ve read on here (not just Brexit) and if everyone was as involved in the debate as many are here, I feel that a more informed Brexit decision might have been reached (not necessarily a different one). It hasn’t event begun yet. This won’t end well & anyone that says otherwise is a fool. Time will tell. But I feel that when the EU (or whatever it calls itself at that time) collapses in on itself amid acrimony, economic devastation and civil war it will be thanks to us fools that British people will not be too involved nor should they suffer too much loss of life, I hope.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 15, 2019 20:09:45 GMT
You're an extremely dumb individual. It's not about him C The dreaded “C” returns
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 20:10:28 GMT
It hasn’t event begun yet. This won’t end well & anyone that says otherwise is a fool. Time will tell. But I feel that when the EU (or whatever it calls itself at that time) collapses in on itself amid acrimony, economic devastation and civil war it will be thanks to us fools that British people will not be too involved nor should they suffer too much loss of life, I hope. You’ve been living in Yeovil for too long.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 15, 2019 20:15:26 GMT
So... if the Tories are such cunts (copywrite Momo), is it not possible that a popular Labour Party could give them a good thrashing at the polls, become the government and put right all the injustices you mention. What relevance this has to Brexit I’m not sure. Other than, as traditional socialists would tell you (albeit most of them are now dead), they could shake off the restrictive practices of the EU and nationalise pretty much anything and everything in sight.
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Post by yeokel on Aug 15, 2019 20:17:40 GMT
Time will tell. But I feel that when the EU (or whatever it calls itself at that time) collapses in on itself amid acrimony, economic devastation and civil war it will be thanks to us fools that British people will not be too involved nor should they suffer too much loss of life, I hope. You’ve been living in Yeovil for too long. I agree, but not for the reasons that you think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 20:43:44 GMT
The referendum wasn't about deals That doesn't answer my question.Apparently it was made perfectly clear. I meant To anyone who isn’t fucking thick 😏
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 20:45:43 GMT
No. It's the principle ...why should there be another? I've just said that everyone knew what they were voting for.....government (((scare))) leaflet No way would they have questioned the vote if it was the other way around And let's face it the majority of your dislike is for the tories more than brexit Brexit is not Tory And for the record I'm not dead against a second ref just to shut the political elite up We all know they'd like to twist the rules to block a no deal tho Oh I'm not against Brexit at all, but I am against no deal. I think at this point enough has changed with how the past 3 years have gone that a call for a 2nd ref isn't a surprising or necessarily awful thing. Whatever the outcome, I get why people want it. and they're not traitors for doing so, as I've seen some point out on twitter etc. To be fair the only people that call them traitors are us loopy racist scumbags 😏
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Post by countofmontecristo on Aug 15, 2019 20:54:59 GMT
The referendum wasn't about deals That doesn't answer my question.Apparently it was made perfectly clear. Is this clear enough for yourself and all those liars who claim that the possibility of 'no deal' wasn't raised/discussed before the referendum? EDIT: Dominic Fucking Grieve!!!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
No deal Brexit supporters. Clear fans of their kids and grandkids being paid a pound an hour, cos 'that's freedom, democracy and economics innit'
Taking back control never felt so good.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 15, 2019 21:16:28 GMT
No deal Brexit supporters. Clear fans of their kids and grandkids being paid a pound an hour, cos 'that's freedom, democracy and economics innit' Taking back control never felt so good. I believe this last couple of days just goes to show how wank at everything the Jezza is, Cummings is 4 or 5 steps ahead of him. I mean leaving aside the last few weeks of screaming Boris has no mandate he now wants to be PM with no mandate and no right. Corbyn is being led up the garden path and will not get the backing, even if he did he would then have to fight a general election having not only blocked a deal but no deal too, goodbye to the Midlands votes following his loss of Scotland and Wales too.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 15, 2019 21:25:12 GMT
That doesn't answer my question.Apparently it was made perfectly clear. Is this clear enough for yourself and all those liars who claim that the possibility of 'no deal' wasn't raised/discussed before the referendum? EDIT: Dominic Fucking Grieve!!!! Pro Brexit group change Britain. Into what?What are these people hoping to change Britain into? time and time again the people who know a lot more about it than these Brexit pipe dreamers tell us that the entire nation will be worse of in piratically every department. Financially,defence,world influence,more expensive and more bureaucracy in travel,job losses the list is endless and for what gain? O yeah I forgot sovereignty
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Post by Timmypotter on Aug 15, 2019 21:27:25 GMT
This is what we voted for. Turkey's voting for Christmas Christ they've worked a number on people, these cunts.... "It is 2022 and the UK has finally left the EU. Mike Ashley has woken up and has to pinch himself. All those dreaded extra protections for workers established since 1997 have been ditched. Hurrah. He can now pay his Sport’s Direct staff £1 an hour and the law requiring employers to offer their staff paid time off is a thing of the past. It may seem like fiction, but if some Brexiteers get their way this might be exactly where we’re heading."www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-singapore-british-economy-new-model-really-bad-idea-a7535226.htmlWe elect the UK government. If they act like pricks we get to elect another every 5 years.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 21:27:43 GMT
Is this clear enough for yourself and all those liars who claim that the possibility of 'no deal' wasn't raised/discussed before the referendum? EDIT: Dominic Fucking Grieve!!!! Pro Brexit group change Britain. Into what?What are these people hoping to change Britain into? time and time again the people who know a lot more about it than these Brexit pipe dreamers tell us that the entire nation will be worse of in piratically every department. Financially,defence,world influence,more expensive and more bureaucracy in travel,job losses the list is endless and for what gain? O yeah I forgot sovereignty We're doomed
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 21:31:37 GMT
This is what we voted for. Turkey's voting for Christmas Christ they've worked a number on people, these cunts.... "It is 2022 and the UK has finally left the EU. Mike Ashley has woken up and has to pinch himself. All those dreaded extra protections for workers established since 1997 have been ditched. Hurrah. He can now pay his Sport’s Direct staff £1 an hour and the law requiring employers to offer their staff paid time off is a thing of the past. It may seem like fiction, but if some Brexiteers get their way this might be exactly where we’re heading."www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-singapore-british-economy-new-model-really-bad-idea-a7535226.htmlWe elect the UK government. If they act like pricks we get to elect another every 5 years. Well unless a fucking idiot like May decides otherwise. I'm sure the fop haired racist cunt will follow suit!
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Post by Timmypotter on Aug 15, 2019 21:35:54 GMT
We elect the UK government. If they act like pricks we get to elect another every 5 years. Well unless a fucking idiot like May decides otherwise. I'm sure the fop haired racist cunt will follow suit! If he's to get an earlier GE approved it will require 2/3 of the HoC voting for it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 21:37:49 GMT
No deal Brexit supporters. Clear fans of their kids and grandkids being paid a pound an hour, cos 'that's freedom, democracy and economics innit' Taking back control never felt so good. I believe this last couple of days just goes to show how wank at everything the Jezza is, Cummings is 4 or 5 steps ahead of him. I mean leaving aside the last few weeks of screaming Boris has no mandate he now wants to be PM with no mandate and no right. Corbyn is being led up the garden path and will not get the backing, even if he did he would then have to fight a general election having not only blocked a deal but no deal too, goodbye to the Midlands votes following his loss of Scotland and Wales too. I think you've misread it fyd When push comes to shove do the liberals want to be a party that facilitated a no deal and austerity? A couple of Tory MPs have already said they could do it on the terms outlined? Same goes for old pissy knickers Soubry. It's high risk but also quite astute.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 21:39:04 GMT
Well unless a fucking idiot like May decides otherwise. I'm sure the fop haired racist cunt will follow suit! If he's to get an earlier GE approved it will require 2/3 of the HoC voting for it. There's a vote if no confidence that some Tories WILL vote for coming in the next 15-20 days.
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Post by Timmypotter on Aug 15, 2019 21:42:21 GMT
If he's to get an earlier GE approved it will require 2/3 of the HoC voting for it. There's a vote if no confidence that some Tories WILL vote for coming in the next 15-20 days. Indeed there is. I wouldn't bank on any tories voting for it though.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 15, 2019 21:43:19 GMT
I believe this last couple of days just goes to show how wank at everything the Jezza is, Cummings is 4 or 5 steps ahead of him. I mean leaving aside the last few weeks of screaming Boris has no mandate he now wants to be PM with no mandate and no right. Corbyn is being led up the garden path and will not get the backing, even if he did he would then have to fight a general election having not only blocked a deal but no deal too, goodbye to the Midlands votes following his loss of Scotland and Wales too. I think you've misread it fyd When push comes to shove do the liberals want to be a party that facilitated a no deal and austerity? A couple of Tory MPs have already said they could do it on the terms outlined? Same goes for old pissy knickers Soubry. It's high risk but also quite astute. Do they want to facilitate Corbyn when push comes to shove and deselection and no cushy life in the house of lords. Like I say Cummings is 4 or 5 steps ahead of them, Labour want a general election but still want to take no position on brexit and put it back to the people, he will wipe the floor with them.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 21:44:06 GMT
If he's to get an earlier GE approved it will require 2/3 of the HoC voting for it. There's a vote if no confidence that some Tories WILL vote for coming in the next 15-20 days. Sheikh Can this happen whilst parliament is in Recess?....are they back on September 4 th?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 21:45:37 GMT
There's a vote if no confidence that some Tories WILL vote for coming in the next 15-20 days. Sheikh Can this happen whilst parliament is in Recess? Sep 3rd is the first day it could happen mate I believe.
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Post by serpico on Aug 15, 2019 21:47:34 GMT
The removal of things like collective bargaining from nations wishing to join the EU were once one of the reasons the left opposed the EU! Now they champion the EU as the guardian of workers rights. Greece had to get rid of their entire collective bargaining structure as part because of the bail out, as did Italy, Spain and others when they joined the EU. The UKs workers rights are actually superior to those offered by the EU.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 21:48:11 GMT
Sheikh Can this happen whilst parliament is in Recess? Sep 3rd is the first day it could happen mate I believe. I think it's the 5th, not sure. But apparently Boris could ignore it/ if he loses it.....or delay doing anything about it other than agreeing an election .... for November 1st or afterwards
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Post by countofmontecristo on Aug 15, 2019 21:48:34 GMT
Is this clear enough for yourself and all those liars who claim that the possibility of 'no deal' wasn't raised/discussed before the referendum? EDIT: Dominic Fucking Grieve!!!! Pro Brexit group change Britain. Into what?What are these people hoping to change Britain into? time and time again the people who know a lot more about it than these Brexit pipe dreamers tell us that the entire nation will be worse of in piratically every department. Financially,defence,world influence,more expensive and more bureaucracy in travel,job losses the list is endless and for what gain? O yeah I forgot sovereignty What's that got to do with the fact that the Remainer's claim (and their central tenet) that a 'no deal' Brexit was not debated before the referendum has been 100% blown out off the water by their own fucking slimy words? All of the anti-democratic Quizlings in parliament and their hapless brain-dead supporters should hang their heads in shame.
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Post by Timmypotter on Aug 15, 2019 22:12:14 GMT
The removal of things like collective bargaining from nations wishing to join the EU were once one of the reasons the left opposed the EU! Now they champion the EU as the guardian of workers rights. Greece had to get rid of their entire collective bargaining structure as part because of the bail out, as did Italy, Spain and others when they joined the EU. The UKs workers rights are actually superior to those offered by the EU. This is the huge blindspot shared by a lot of remain fanatics. The EU's behaviour to Greece made the IMF's treatment of Argentina look tame. The EU is not a friend of the people. You only need to look at the people it appoints to top jobs to understand that.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 22:17:04 GMT
The removal of things like collective bargaining from nations wishing to join the EU were once one of the reasons the left opposed the EU! Now they champion the EU as the guardian of workers rights. Greece had to get rid of their entire collective bargaining structure as part because of the bail out, as did Italy, Spain and others when they joined the EU. The UKs workers rights are actually superior to those offered by the EU. This is the huge blindspot shared by a lot of remain fanatics. The EU's behaviour to Greece made the IMF's treatment of Argentina look tame. The EU is not a friend of the people. You only need to look at the people it appoints to top jobs to understand that. I think folk would agree that the EU has its problems & maybe they don’t like all of the people in the top jobs. Then they look at the people in our government & realise ours are worse...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 22:19:14 GMT
Sep 3rd is the first day it could happen mate I believe. I think it's the 5th, not sure. But apparently Boris could ignore it/ if he loses it.....or delay doing anything about it other than agreeing an election .... for November 1st or afterwards All will probably depend if mps can take control of business again or not. If Boris goes in a hole hiding from democracy again though. It will haunt him for all time. I do t think bercow will allow it
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