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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 12:57:59 GMT
900 pages of rant!
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Post by yeokel on Aug 15, 2019 13:29:51 GMT
I don’t think it has all been ‘rant’ There have, at times, been reasonable points made on both sides and healthy debate has raised its head from time to time. Other times have just found people going round and round in circles pointlessly. (and that still goes on & on these days, without anybody making any progress) I must admit that I, for one, feel better informed about things due to stuff I’ve read on here (not just Brexit) and if everyone was as involved in the debate as many are here, I feel that a more informed Brexit decision might have been reached (not necessarily a different one).
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Post by serpico on Aug 15, 2019 15:05:22 GMT
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Post by Northy on Aug 15, 2019 16:09:25 GMT
These lefties and some remainers were whining about Boris Johnson becoming PM without voting in him, but now they seem to be for Jeremy the traitor fookin Corbyn becoming a temporary leader in a 'unity' government, a party that came 2nd
I suppose losing seems to them that they are entitled to become number 1 ? Seems a bit like that trend at school on sports day, where nobody came last, not even the fat kids, and the winners weren't congratulated
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 16:47:22 GMT
I voted to leave and that included a no deal if it came to it.....no hesitation If that's the case then you believe others did the same, there's no problem with a 2nd ref, because in a no deal vs remain, no deal would win. No. It's the principle ...why should there be another? I've just said that everyone knew what they were voting for.....government (((scare))) leaflet No way would they have questioned the vote if it was the other way around And let's face it the majority of your dislike is for the tories more than brexit Brexit is not Tory And for the record I'm not dead against a second ref just to shut the political elite up We all know they'd like to twist the rules to block a no deal tho
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 17:14:39 GMT
For me Wollaston is the best current example of hypocrisy amongst our Politicians. There is absolutely no way that she can honestly justify her stance. ( She was my mother in law's doctor... she thought that she was a very good doctor) /
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 15, 2019 17:25:31 GMT
If that's the case then you believe others did the same, there's no problem with a 2nd ref, because in a no deal vs remain, no deal would win. No. It's the principle ...why should there be another? I've just said that everyone knew what they were voting for.....government (((scare))) leaflet No way would they have questioned the vote if it was the other way around And let's face it the majority of your dislike is for the tories more than brexit Brexit is not Tory And for the record I'm not dead against a second ref just to shut the political elite up We all know they'd like to twist the rules to block a no deal tho W Funny thing is I've never heard one Brexit voter say we didn't know what we voted for , only the arrogant remain cunts who insist we were all conned by the bus 🚌. And we were somehow unaware of the Devastating consequences of what we voted for because the middle class liberal elite obviously know more far more than your average thick brexiter . These same people have created no deal by simply opposing everything else put to them
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 15, 2019 17:33:25 GMT
The only way leave would not win a 2nd referendum is if some of the previous leavers switch their votes because they prefer to remain rather than go through a no deal Brexit. There is no other Brexit option available so it's either no deal or remain. So if remain won a second referendum would his be he end of the matter ? would his vote have more legitimacy than the 1 st ? Would a future leave campaign be allowed to paralyse Parliament for 3 years
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Post by serpico on Aug 15, 2019 17:40:47 GMT
No. It's the principle ...why should there be another? I've just said that everyone knew what they were voting for.....government (((scare))) leaflet No way would they have questioned the vote if it was the other way around And let's face it the majority of your dislike is for the tories more than brexit Brexit is not Tory And for the record I'm not dead against a second ref just to shut the political elite up We all know they'd like to twist the rules to block a no deal tho W Funny thing is I've never heard one Brexit voter say we didn't know what we voted for , only the arrogant remain cunts who insist we were all conned by the bus 🚌. And we were somehow unaware of the Devastating consequences of what we voted for because the middle class liberal elite obviously know more far more than your average thick brexiter . These same people have created no deal by simply opposing everything else put to them The ironic thing is I’d wager leavers knew more about the European Union in 2016 than remainers did, I doubt most remain voters could even name the Eu president in 2016.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 15, 2019 17:58:38 GMT
Have to disagree, you don't expect the tories to stop campaigning for their policies if the public vote labour in do you? Whether you agree or not, she is well within her right to campaign for her beliefs. She's trying to stop no deal and get a 2nd ref. No-one voted for no deal (please don't respond to that because they just didn't), and she wants to remain so obviously wants to see if the views of the people have changed. I imagine they haven't, but even so, she is campaigning for her political beliefs, same as anyone else. I voted to leave and that included a no deal if it came to it.....no hesitation I'm 100% certain everyone else who voted leave did too as the government that allowed us the vote made it perfectly clear what was at risk and it was posted through every letterbox Can you find out for me where the government explained in its 27 million leaflets the pit falls of a no deal?
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Post by starkiller on Aug 15, 2019 18:03:57 GMT
Old enough to know that trying to debate Brexit on here seriously leads to nothing but frustration. I tried that already and all it got was the usual remoaner and remainiac jibes, plus the usual suspects all banding together and liking each others pro-Brexit posts regardless of if they were valid points or not. If 'those' posters (not all) aren't going to be impartial or accept valid arguments then neither will I. If by chance you're asking my age because you're interested in me then I'm afraid to say that I'm already in a relationship. I'm honoured you ask, but Sorry. It was debated three years ago and leave won. You can have all the opinions you like on it. But the result stands and must be implemented.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 18:47:14 GMT
I voted to leave and that included a no deal if it came to it.....no hesitation I'm 100% certain everyone else who voted leave did too as the government that allowed us the vote made it perfectly clear what was at risk and it was posted through every letterbox Can you find out for me where the government explained in its 27 million leaflets the pit falls of a no deal? The referendum wasn't about deals
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 15, 2019 18:49:22 GMT
Can you find out for me where the government explained in its 27 million leaflets the pit falls of a no deal? The referendum wasn't about deals That doesn't answer my question.Apparently it was made perfectly clear.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 15, 2019 18:50:36 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 18:50:39 GMT
The referendum wasn't about deals That doesn't answer my question. Not a very good question
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 15, 2019 18:52:29 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. Not a very good question Too tough for you.Sorry.Hopefully the poster who the question was directed at may do better.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 18:57:28 GMT
Too tough for you.Sorry.Hopefully the poster who the question was directed at may do better. Probably. ( Perhaps you just don't like the answer.... similar to not liking the Referendum result) Sorry to intrude.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 18:58:39 GMT
"People voted for Singapore on Thames. I must deliver for my kind".
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 15, 2019 19:03:05 GMT
"People voted for Singapore on Thames. I must deliver for my kind". Singapore is a stunning place not a very good comparison if you're trying to run the UK down.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 19:12:08 GMT
"People voted for Singapore on Thames. I must deliver for my kind". Singapore is a stunning place not a very good comparison if you're trying to run the UK down. Indeed a lovely place. A capitalist nirvana. A deregulated haven for tax avoiding wealth. The dream and exactly what people voted for
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 19:18:25 GMT
Singapore is a stunning place not a very good comparison if you're trying to run the UK down. Indeed a lovely place. A capitalist nirvana. A deregulated haven for tax avoiding wealth. The dream and exactly what people voted for I think that the working class are more patriotic than you give them credit for Sheikh.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 15, 2019 19:20:44 GMT
Singapore is a stunning place not a very good comparison if you're trying to run the UK down. Indeed a lovely place. A capitalist nirvana. A deregulated haven for tax avoiding wealth. The dream and exactly what people voted for I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 19:24:20 GMT
I don’t think it has all been ‘rant’ There have, at times, been reasonable points made on both sides and healthy debate has raised its head from time to time. Other times have just found people going round and round in circles pointlessly. (and that still goes on & on these days, without anybody making any progress) I must admit that I, for one, feel better informed about things due to stuff I’ve read on here (not just Brexit) and if everyone was as involved in the debate as many are here, I feel that a more informed Brexit decision might have been reached (not necessarily a different one). It hasn’t event begun yet. This won’t end well & anyone that says otherwise is a fool.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 19:32:55 GMT
I don’t think it has all been ‘rant’ There have, at times, been reasonable points made on both sides and healthy debate has raised its head from time to time. Other times have just found people going round and round in circles pointlessly. (and that still goes on & on these days, without anybody making any progress) I must admit that I, for one, feel better informed about things due to stuff I’ve read on here (not just Brexit) and if everyone was as involved in the debate as many are here, I feel that a more informed Brexit decision might have been reached (not necessarily a different one). It hasn’t event begun yet. This won’t end well & anyone that says otherwise is a fool. I don't know about " ending" well Bath but I think that you are correct in that when,/ if we leave on October 31 st there could be unprecedented ( in peacetime) turmoil and unrest in the short and medium term..... medium and long term I think it will be worth it , in contrast to the direction of the EU.... ever closer union. Different opinions are possible.
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Post by bubbletrees on Aug 15, 2019 19:33:02 GMT
Indeed a lovely place. A capitalist nirvana. A deregulated haven for tax avoiding wealth. The dream and exactly what people voted for I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are. You're an extremely dumb individual.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 15, 2019 19:34:02 GMT
I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are. You're an extremely dumb individual. It's not about him C
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 19:39:43 GMT
Indeed a lovely place. A capitalist nirvana. A deregulated haven for tax avoiding wealth. The dream and exactly what people voted for I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are. Yeah a deregulated capitalist icon, where protest is virtually banned and they just gave workers nearly two weeks holiday recently. Low tax, low wage, no rights. This is what we voted for.
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Post by serpico on Aug 15, 2019 19:42:31 GMT
"People voted for Singapore on Thames. I must deliver for my kind". I’ll take Singapore over venezuala 🙂
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 15, 2019 19:46:33 GMT
I know a very wealthy beautiful lawful place with no positives hey the only down side is booze is expensive other than that's it's brilliant. We could learn a few things but nah let's stay as we are. You're an extremely dumb individual. Ever visited?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 19:47:41 GMT
This is what we voted for. Turkey's voting for Christmas Christ they've worked a number on people, these cunts.... "It is 2022 and the UK has finally left the EU. Mike Ashley has woken up and has to pinch himself. All those dreaded extra protections for workers established since 1997 have been ditched. Hurrah. He can now pay his Sport’s Direct staff £1 an hour and the law requiring employers to offer their staff paid time off is a thing of the past. It may seem like fiction, but if some Brexiteers get their way this might be exactly where we’re heading."www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-singapore-british-economy-new-model-really-bad-idea-a7535226.html
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