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Post by smallthorner on Apr 23, 2019 21:26:46 GMT
Extract from Press Association article today about the Brexit Party funding (can't do the link at the moment) NIGEL Farage logged on to his Brexit Party’s PayPal account last night — to reveal that in just nine days since its launch that fed-up voters have stumped up £1.5million, joining at the rate of one every 30 seconds and boosting coffers by £50 a minute. Last night the former Ukip leader said he will soon have more backers than the “dying” Tory party and the Brexit Party are set to change the face of British politics. He said: “I’m getting a good vibe just by looking at the sheer numbers who are joining us. I’ve been reading their letters and emails. They feel utterly let down and betrayed. We’re going to field 70 candidates in the Euro elections but it won’t stop there. This is now a long-term commitment we’re taking on and we’re going for it.” Unlike the main political parties, nearly every penny of funding comes small donors. He logged on to the PayPal account to let us see the range of people paying £25 to become registered supporters — with 15,811 joining on launch day alone. Mr Farage reckons that by polling day on May 23 the party will have overtaken the Tories’ 120,000 members. He said: “Our critics can’t believe this is happening. “There are no concessions for young or old. No £3 membership fee like Labour. It’s a flat rate — and people are still joining. It shows the huge appetite there is for Brexit and to change the broken two party system.” Other than exiting from the EU.. What is the Brexit Party manifesto and principles ??
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 23, 2019 21:33:28 GMT
Extract from Press Association article today about the Brexit Party funding (can't do the link at the moment) NIGEL Farage logged on to his Brexit Party’s PayPal account last night — to reveal that in just nine days since its launch that fed-up voters have stumped up £1.5million, joining at the rate of one every 30 seconds and boosting coffers by £50 a minute. Last night the former Ukip leader said he will soon have more backers than the “dying” Tory party and the Brexit Party are set to change the face of British politics. He said: “I’m getting a good vibe just by looking at the sheer numbers who are joining us. I’ve been reading their letters and emails. They feel utterly let down and betrayed. We’re going to field 70 candidates in the Euro elections but it won’t stop there. This is now a long-term commitment we’re taking on and we’re going for it.” Unlike the main political parties, nearly every penny of funding comes small donors. He logged on to the PayPal account to let us see the range of people paying £25 to become registered supporters — with 15,811 joining on launch day alone. Mr Farage reckons that by polling day on May 23 the party will have overtaken the Tories’ 120,000 members. He said: “Our critics can’t believe this is happening. “There are no concessions for young or old. No £3 membership fee like Labour. It’s a flat rate — and people are still joining. It shows the huge appetite there is for Brexit and to change the broken two party system.” Other than exiting from the EU.. What is the Brexit Party manifesto and principles ?? Well at least the brexit Party seems to have a principle that’s one more than than the shower of shit masquerading as the official opposition
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 23, 2019 21:35:25 GMT
Other than exiting from the EU.. What is the Brexit Party manifesto and principles ?? Well at least the brexit Party seems to have a principle that’s one more than than the shower of shit masquerading as the official opposition So what do they stand for? Other than Brexit of course.
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 23, 2019 21:40:01 GMT
Other than exiting from the EU.. What is the Brexit Party manifesto and principles ?? Well at least the brexit Party seems to have a principle that’s one more than than the shower of shit masquerading as the official opposition Good point though.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Apr 24, 2019 5:10:26 GMT
Well at least the brexit Party seems to have a principle that’s one more than than the shower of shit masquerading as the official opposition So what do they stand for? Other than Brexit of course. It's not known yet. Nigel Farage said the party would be publishing its manifesto after the EU elections. I read today that Ann Widdecombe has left the Tories after 55 years and joined the Brexit Party to stand as a candidate.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 5:54:41 GMT
So what do they stand for? Other than Brexit of course. It's not known yet. Nigel Farage said the party would be publishing its manifesto after the EU elections. I read today that Ann Widdecombe has left the Tories after 55 years and joined the Brexit Party to stand as a candidate. Is that its manifesto for a general election or for the European elections?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Apr 24, 2019 6:15:26 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 6:43:18 GMT
It's not known yet. Nigel Farage said the party would be publishing its manifesto after the EU elections. I read today that Ann Widdecombe has left the Tories after 55 years and joined the Brexit Party to stand as a candidate. Is that its manifesto for a general election or for the European elections? What kind of issues/ policies would you look for in a European manifesto....( Cue ....bland " cooperation amongst countries" " global environmental" issues.... those issues that can be dealt with irrespective of the EU.....or greater integration towards ever closer union..,. Or a reformed EU..It's actually going the other way " more Europe")
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 24, 2019 7:51:38 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 24, 2019 8:44:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 9:32:43 GMT
No surprise at all is it ? I'd say the Beeb and almost all of the MSM have been completely anti Brexit from the time of the result. A couple of newspapers have been in favour, and an occasional interview, but apart from that it's been staunch anti Brexit.
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Post by starkiller on Apr 24, 2019 10:03:14 GMT
This is a true lefty.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 10:07:22 GMT
Is that its manifesto for a general election or for the European elections? What kind of issues/ policies would you look for in a European manifesto....( Cue ....bland " cooperation amongst countries" " global environmental" issues.... those issues that can be dealt with irrespective of the EU.....or greater integration towards ever closer union..,. Or a reformed EU..It's actually going the other way " more Europe") I don't know what I'd expect - I'd read any manifesto and judge for myself. It was an actual question btw - I don't know if the original poster was referring to an EU election manifesto or a general election manifesto.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 10:17:17 GMT
What kind of issues/ policies would you look for in a European manifesto....( Cue ....bland " cooperation amongst countries" " global environmental" issues.... those issues that can be dealt with irrespective of the EU.....or greater integration towards ever closer union..,. Or a reformed EU..It's actually going the other way " more Europe") I don't know what I'd expect - I'd read any manifesto and judge for myself. It was an actual question btw - I don't know if the original poster was referring to an EU election manifesto or a general election manifesto. Yes , mine was just a question too , Rip , not trying to catch you out. I don't think that UK nationals generally speaking relate to EU issues. I don't think that they would bother to read manifestos...I don't think things such as " reform of the CAP" " Abolish the CFP" or "Stop the monthly exodus of the EU Parliament to Strasbourg" will be on manifestos , nor will there be a connection with the UK citizen. The whole thing is a pointless charade to a pseudo parliament. The only possible point and the only one that attracts and interest or discussion, in the media or elsewhere is " Do we want to be part of this...yes or no"....so it just provides a forum for Euroscepticism... hence the BREXIT party " manifesto" ( we want to leave)in a nutshell is all that is really needed ... what do you think?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 11:01:36 GMT
I don't know what I'd expect - I'd read any manifesto and judge for myself. It was an actual question btw - I don't know if the original poster was referring to an EU election manifesto or a general election manifesto. Yes , mine was just a question too , Rip , not trying to catch you out. I don't think that UK nationals generally speaking relate to EU issues. I don't think that they would bother to read manifestos...I don't think things such as " reform of the CAP" " Abolish the CFP" or "Stop the monthly exodus of the EU Parliament to Strasbourg" will be on manifestos , nor will there be a connection with the UK citizen. The whole thing is a pointless charade to a pseudo parliament. The only possible point and the only one that attracts and interest or discussion, in the media or elsewhere is " Do we want to be part of this...yes or no"....so it just provides a forum for Euroscepticism... hence the BREXIT party " manifesto" ( we want to leave)in a nutshell is all that is really needed ... what do you think? So is there a Brexit Party manifesto for the EU Elections or not? I think it's a pretty unique election this time around, so arguably there is less need for one.
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 24, 2019 11:13:02 GMT
Yes , mine was just a question too , Rip , not trying to catch you out. I don't think that UK nationals generally speaking relate to EU issues. I don't think that they would bother to read manifestos...I don't think things such as " reform of the CAP" " Abolish the CFP" or "Stop the monthly exodus of the EU Parliament to Strasbourg" will be on manifestos , nor will there be a connection with the UK citizen. The whole thing is a pointless charade to a pseudo parliament. The only possible point and the only one that attracts and interest or discussion, in the media or elsewhere is " Do we want to be part of this...yes or no"....so it just provides a forum for Euroscepticism... hence the BREXIT party " manifesto" ( we want to leave)in a nutshell is all that is really needed ... what do you think? So is there a Brexit Party manifesto for the EU Elections or not? I think it's a pretty unique election this time around, so arguably there is less need for one. There probably is It runs to one sentence : To fully leave the European Union at the earliest possible time
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Post by auntiegeorge on Apr 24, 2019 11:28:16 GMT
What kind of issues/ policies would you look for in a European manifesto....( Cue ....bland " cooperation amongst countries" " global environmental" issues.... those issues that can be dealt with irrespective of the EU.....or greater integration towards ever closer union..,. Or a reformed EU..It's actually going the other way " more Europe") I don't know what I'd expect - I'd read any manifesto and judge for myself. It was an actual question btw - I don't know if the original poster was referring to an EU election manifesto or a general election manifesto. I didn't mean to dodge your question rip. Farage said yesterday to a Daily Telegraph reporter at a press conference where he introduced five more candidates that the party's manifesto will be launched after the EU elections. So I can only presume that he means a general election manifesto.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 11:29:11 GMT
Brexit Party have a rally in Clacton at 12.30 today. There is a press conference in Manchester at the Hilton Deansgate tomorrow at 11.00.
More venues to be announced in the near future. Registered members and supporters, and donations, continue to increase daily.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 11:29:42 GMT
Yes , mine was just a question too , Rip , not trying to catch you out. I don't think that UK nationals generally speaking relate to EU issues. I don't think that they would bother to read manifestos...I don't think things such as " reform of the CAP" " Abolish the CFP" or "Stop the monthly exodus of the EU Parliament to Strasbourg" will be on manifestos , nor will there be a connection with the UK citizen. The whole thing is a pointless charade to a pseudo parliament. The only possible point and the only one that attracts and interest or discussion, in the media or elsewhere is " Do we want to be part of this...yes or no"....so it just provides a forum for Euroscepticism... hence the BREXIT party " manifesto" ( we want to leave)in a nutshell is all that is really needed ... what do you think? So is there a Brexit Party manifesto for the EU Elections or not? I think it's a pretty unique election this time around, so arguably there is less need for one. As I say the manifestos are largely irrelevant to the UK citizen. When you peruse the manifestos what policies will you be looking for...you know , a bit pro active rather than waiting for the manifestos to come out?
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Post by Northy on Apr 24, 2019 11:52:02 GMT
Yes , mine was just a question too , Rip , not trying to catch you out. I don't think that UK nationals generally speaking relate to EU issues. I don't think that they would bother to read manifestos...I don't think things such as " reform of the CAP" " Abolish the CFP" or "Stop the monthly exodus of the EU Parliament to Strasbourg" will be on manifestos , nor will there be a connection with the UK citizen. The whole thing is a pointless charade to a pseudo parliament. The only possible point and the only one that attracts and interest or discussion, in the media or elsewhere is " Do we want to be part of this...yes or no"....so it just provides a forum for Euroscepticism... hence the BREXIT party " manifesto" ( we want to leave)in a nutshell is all that is really needed ... what do you think? So is there a Brexit Party manifesto for the EU Elections or not? I think it's a pretty unique election this time around, so arguably there is less need for one. Current live Broadcast going on by Nigel and the Brexit party at Clacton Pier
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 12:43:29 GMT
So is there a Brexit Party manifesto for the EU Elections or not? I think it's a pretty unique election this time around, so arguably there is less need for one. As I say the manifestos are largely irrelevant to the UK citizen. When you peruse the manifestos what policies will you be looking for...you know , a bit pro active rather than waiting for the manifestos to come out? I would probably look for what policies they would support on things like the environment, worker's rights, equality issues (mainly gender equality) and what their stance is on further integration. That would be in a normal EU election. This one is quite unique so I'll probably see what sort of platform each party is standing on.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 12:58:53 GMT
As I say the manifestos are largely irrelevant to the UK citizen. When you peruse the manifestos what policies will you be looking for...you know , a bit pro active rather than waiting for the manifestos to come out? I would probably look for what policies they would support on things like the environment, worker's rights, equality issues (mainly gender equality) and what their stance is on further integration. That would be in a normal EU election. This one is quite unique so I'll probably see what sort of platform each party is standing on. Do you think that the " average" UK electorate would look for those things. Go on , be brave. They'd see them as totally irrelevant across Europe.... until we have been indoctrinated and succumbed to the dictat/ Euro think. None of the issues have been discussed in any sort of depth , not even superficially, in previous EU elections , nor will they be. The direction of travel can't be challenged. A complete sham...the only significant vote is Eurosceptic/ or not because that is where the debate is....and it will continue to be so in the future
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Post by starkiller on Apr 24, 2019 13:50:54 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Apr 24, 2019 14:49:44 GMT
Hardly surprising, good to see some numbers to back the theories up though.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 15:02:47 GMT
I would probably look for what policies they would support on things like the environment, worker's rights, equality issues (mainly gender equality) and what their stance is on further integration. That would be in a normal EU election. This one is quite unique so I'll probably see what sort of platform each party is standing on. Do you think that the " average" UK electorate would look for those things. Go on , be brave. They'd see them as totally irrelevant across Europe.... until we have been indoctrinated and succumbed to the dictat/ Euro think. None of the issues have been discussed in any sort of depth , not even superficially, in previous EU elections , nor will they be. The direction of travel can't be challenged. A complete sham...the only significant vote is Eurosceptic/ or not because that is where the debate is....and it will continue to be so in the future No, I don't think they would look for those things. The direction of travel will be challenged if enough European people vote for Eurosceptic parties, which might be the case this time around.
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Post by starkiller on Apr 24, 2019 15:05:11 GMT
Hardly surprising, good to see some numbers to back the theories up though. And the numbers. 97% of guests are remoaners.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 15:25:34 GMT
Do you think that the " average" UK electorate would look for those things. Go on , be brave. They'd see them as totally irrelevant across Europe.... until we have been indoctrinated and succumbed to the dictat/ Euro think. None of the issues have been discussed in any sort of depth , not even superficially, in previous EU elections , nor will they be. The direction of travel can't be challenged. A complete sham...the only significant vote is Eurosceptic/ or not because that is where the debate is....and it will continue to be so in the future No, I don't think they would look for those things. The direction of travel will be challenged if enough European people vote for Eurosceptic parties, which might be the case this time around. It can be " challenged" but it cannot change because the very purpose of the organisation is political and economic union and it is dictated from the top... they 100% believe in the project, the 4 freedoms etc, irrespective what the populace want.... Indeed any deviance is labelled populism or of the far right. To try to change it is as fundamental as getting on the board of Stoke city and suggesting that it becomes a cricket club ( some might say that that would be a good thing). That's what we are signed up to
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 16:43:52 GMT
No, I don't think they would look for those things. The direction of travel will be challenged if enough European people vote for Eurosceptic parties, which might be the case this time around. It can be " challenged" but it cannot change because the very purpose of the organisation is political and economic union and it is dictated from the top... they 100% believe in the project, the 4 freedoms etc, irrespective what the populace want.... Indeed any deviance is labelled populism or of the far right. To try to change it is s fundamental as getting on the board of Stoke city and suggesting that it becomes a cricket club ( some might say that that would be a good thing). That's what we are signed up to A Eurosceptic parliament can stop further integration, if there is enough of a majority in the Parliament - which there may well be this time. It can vote things down, and stop policies being enacted.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 24, 2019 17:12:47 GMT
It can be " challenged" but it cannot change because the very purpose of the organisation is political and economic union and it is dictated from the top... they 100% believe in the project, the 4 freedoms etc, irrespective what the populace want.... Indeed any deviance is labelled populism or of the far right. To try to change it is s fundamental as getting on the board of Stoke city and suggesting that it becomes a cricket club ( some might say that that would be a good thing). That's what we are signed up to A Eurosceptic parliament can stop further integration, if there is enough of a majority in the Parliament - which there may well be this time. It can vote things down, and stop policies being enacted. Pie in the sky ....the purpose of the organisation is ever closer union
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 24, 2019 17:24:19 GMT
A Eurosceptic parliament can stop further integration, if there is enough of a majority in the Parliament - which there may well be this time. It can vote things down, and stop policies being enacted. Pie in the sky ....the purpose of the organisation is ever closer union The purpose of the EU is what the EU Parliament allows to be the purpose of the EU.
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