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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 19:13:33 GMT
Definitely worth a try, that is!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 19:15:05 GMT
Oh for goodness sake. It is not rocket science Sobhi. Arnie. Shaq Berahino Or Sobhi. Shaq. Arnie Berahino Both with two holding midfielders to protect On paper most teams would be worried by that front line Shame they are not that good on grass !
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Post by PotterLog on May 2, 2017 19:19:49 GMT
Oh for goodness sake. It is not rocket science Sobhi. Arnie. Shaq Berahino Or Sobhi. Shaq. Arnie Berahino Both with two holding midfielders to protect On paper most teams would be worried by that front line You've got Sobhi on the right and Shaq on the left? Surely you mean Arnie Shaq Sobhi Bera ??
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Post by thicknthin on May 2, 2017 19:39:12 GMT
Trouble with that I think is, Arnie who is our best player (IMHO) is a lot less effective on the right, and so it seems is Ramadan, so it isn't really getting the best out of the group? It is putting our best players on, which is not necessarily the best team.
That said, I'd love it if he did give it a go 👍 And I wouldn't be calling MH a clueless shit if it didn't work 🙄 Because it looks a no brainier.
That said I settle for Arni and Shaq to switch a few times a game to enable them to hug the line a cross it now and again, give the fullbacks something different to think about.
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Post by ozy2002 on May 2, 2017 21:32:19 GMT
The only explanation in my mind for MH not giving Ramadan chance to play is one only reason I think there is some conditions in Ramadan contract with Alahly , for how many goals and assists and also for number of games he is playing If he exceeds then Al ably will get some bonus , so probably MH knows that already the seasons is finished , and why we should pay bonus for his club in Egypt Let him stay out of the vision now and next season will be playing regularly , Same situation happend with Wigan when Amr zaki played for them , and there was condition if he score 10 goals , then his club will get half million pound And he scored like 9 goals in first 10 matches then the club dropped him for no reason , for many matches , till he came on and scored the goal number 10 Maybe I am wrong ,but this is the only reason which I can think about him , or at least give him 20 mins if you have still spare substitution
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Post by ozy2002 on May 2, 2017 21:40:44 GMT
I really dream to see them playing one match together. Shaq. Allan Ramadan Arni And also all of them they can swap rules every 10 mins , arni goes to his left side , and ramadan be striker and shaq go 10 , Allan do pressure on the right They will confiuse any defence
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 22:04:51 GMT
To play ramadan you have to either drop one of our two best players or put them out of position. If he starts he goes number 10, if that doesn't work he's back up in case of injury.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 2, 2017 22:32:06 GMT
Decent article on the kid today on football365. Sorry can't seem to get a link. Anyhow, people singing his praises and talking of his potential. One of these people is our tactical genius Mark Hughes. So my question would be, why the fuck don't you play him?. Because he isn't as good as Shaq or Arnie? In the time Ramadan played he was consistent in his performances.... The same can't be said about either Arnie or Shaq, they're the type of players who turn up when they want....BOTH of which are amazing when they do....but as frustrating as fuck when they don't!!!
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 2, 2017 22:43:56 GMT
Ramadan will be a superstar. He is being carefully managed and we will reap the benefits, probably next season.
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Post by RichJonesy on May 3, 2017 13:20:53 GMT
I really dream to see them playing one match together. Shaq. Allan Ramadan Arni And also all of them they can swap rules every 10 mins , arni goes to his left side , and ramadan be striker and shaq go 10 , Allan do pressure on the right They will confiuse any defence Well it's confused me. Allen isn't a number 10, or a right winger, Arnie isn't a striker....and then the changing round? No.
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Post by Dr Hesham on May 6, 2017 16:09:57 GMT
And now Munisa is playing as LW instead of Ramadan.
Mr Hughes should announce what is the problem if he is punishing the guy, why does he add him on the bench while other players are out the 18 ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2017 16:10:19 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him?
Another game missed for his development.
More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that.
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Post by butlerstbob on May 6, 2017 16:12:54 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him? Another game missed for his development. More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that. I am surprised he actually makes the bench, don't know what he has to do to get game time but its clear Hughes doesn't rate him one bit!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:24:14 GMT
Drop Whelan put Allen in that role
and there's even room for Sohbi
then we approach our best eleven
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:28:02 GMT
managers been an idiot this season - sadly
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Post by tijuanabrass on May 6, 2017 16:34:42 GMT
I can think of 4 reasons why we don't see more of him. 1. Management team think he's crap - clearly not the case. He has had game time and was on the bench today. 2. He's done something naughty - doubtful. He seems very professional for his years. 3. We are trying not to upset Arnie who could see him as a bigger threat to his position - Premier league managers have to make these tough calls all the time and I don't think Hughes would shirk his responsibility at the risk of an Austrian tantrum. 4. We want to keep him at the club next season when there maybe a chance of Arnie moving on. Let's not stick him in the shop window too soon. I suspect that this is the one.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:39:03 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him? Another game missed for his development. More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that. What are the "rumours"?
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Post by alster on May 6, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
Drop Whelan put Allen in that role and there's even room for Sohbi then we approach our best eleven Drop either Whelan or Allen, Play Sobhi Shaq & Arnie and let them roam. If the defensive side of the team can't cope with 4 players being dedicated to attack and only offering as much help as they can they're not good enough at their jobs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2017 16:41:39 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him? Another game missed for his development. More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that. What are the "rumours"? Hughes doesn't rate him.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on May 6, 2017 16:43:41 GMT
Anyone think Arnie has lost heart in his performances ? Plays like 'I'm leaving' attitude ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2017 16:45:21 GMT
Anyone think Arnie has lost heart in his performances ? Plays like 'I'm leaving' attitude ? No. He's playing like he knows there's fuck all support behind him and he has to try and do everything on his own. He's not good enough for that responsibility.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 6, 2017 16:45:32 GMT
He's a very good player with potential to be absolutely brilliant.
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Post by superheroantonius on May 6, 2017 17:13:28 GMT
I am a stoke fan but if Hughes stays we should sell him and let him go off and have the top class career he deserves.
He has always given us a 100% effort and showed loads of skill.
deserves to be treated with respect
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Post by kastro on May 6, 2017 17:17:10 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him? Another game missed for his development. More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that. I highly doubt it's that, unless you're suggesting Hughes is brain dead. There are probably appearance clauses in his contract that won't apply next season. Stoke probably trying to save a buck. Only logical reason at this point. If Hughes doesn't rate Sobhi, he should leave football altogether.
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Post by march4 on May 6, 2017 17:18:08 GMT
Drop Whelan put Allen in that role and there's even room for Sohbi then we approach our best eleven Except Whelan is a billion times better than the dreadful Allen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2017 17:18:56 GMT
Do people still think Hughes actually rates him? Another game missed for his development. More evidence to show the "rumours" are a bit than that. I highly doubt it's that, unless you're suggesting Hughes is brain dead. There are probably appearance clauses in his contract that won't apply next season. Stoke probably trying to save a buck. Only logical reason at this point. If Hughes doesn't rate Sobhi, he should leave football altogether. How is that logical? People need to open their eyes.
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Post by mrred on May 6, 2017 17:19:30 GMT
Plays a player that's barely played for 2 years to get his fitness up but won't play a player that's got fucking stacks of talent now, want to play games for us now, and could more than likely improve the team now.
Mark Hughes, ladies and gentlemen...
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 6, 2017 17:21:05 GMT
I can think of 4 reasons why we don't see more of him. 1. Management team think he's crap - clearly not the case. He has had game time and was on the bench today. 2. He's done something naughty - doubtful. He seems very professional for his years. 3. We are trying not to upset Arnie who could see him as a bigger threat to his position - Premier league managers have to make these tough calls all the time and I don't think Hughes would shirk his responsibility at the risk of an Austrian tantrum. 4. We want to keep him at the club next season when there maybe a chance of Arnie moving on. Let's not stick him in the shop window too soon. I suspect that this is the one. We can always say no, he is under contract, you play your better players regardless of what other teams may want.
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Post by kastro on May 6, 2017 17:32:38 GMT
I highly doubt it's that, unless you're suggesting Hughes is brain dead. There are probably appearance clauses in his contract that won't apply next season. Stoke probably trying to save a buck. Only logical reason at this point. If Hughes doesn't rate Sobhi, he should leave football altogether. How is that logical? People need to open their eyes. Because I've seen it happen plenty of times? Falcao at Manchester United is one example. Robin van Persie had the same type of clause in his first season at Arsenal and this was years ago. What reason could Hughes possibly have for not rating Sobhi? Lack of end product as a 20 year old in his first season in Europe?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2017 17:43:57 GMT
How is that logical? People need to open their eyes. Because I've seen it happen plenty of times? Falcao at Manchester United is one example. Robin van Persie had the same type of clause in his first season at Arsenal and this was years ago. What reason could Hughes possibly have for not rating Sobhi? Lack of end product as a 20 year old in his first season in Europe? Yeah top mark players on massive money who the club didn't want any more. Not a young lad who won't be on that much. I have no idea but why does Hughes do most of the things he does?
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