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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 25, 2017 19:10:01 GMT
When results are not so good confidence becomes a problem and players can stop doing the things they are good at. Fans then start to put all aspects of the club and manager under the microscope, from things like the signings to the way the manager conducts himself on the touchline. A few good results and the mood amongst the players and fans changes dramatically, whether some players have been a waste of money or others are not trying becomes fairly irrelevant, the thing is that in the PL clubs like Stoke will have lengthy periods when results are not good and different fans will react in different ways, I don't sense though there is a mood among most fans to see the manager removed. Maybe you need to get your senses checked out they're not working too good. It's a strange one, I'm not blinkered to the grumblings on here, or indeed elements of frustration and the pantomime subbing boos at the match, I'm yet to be convinced that it translates to an overriding Hughes Out feeling at the ground. More of a must do better, mixed with apathy. There will be some extremists. In the real world {pub etc} talk of sacking him is usually, though not unanimously met with 'No, don't be daft'. We'll see saturday I suppose, I hope you're wrong.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 25, 2017 19:11:48 GMT
I would be surprised if Rafa would be interested in the Stoke job, managers like him want a big club that can win trophies or a big club that is underperforming, Stoke are neither of those. If Stoke sacked Hughes, the new contenders might well want to ask Peter Coates why Hughes was sacked after three 9th place finishes and where he expects the club to finish in the PL in the future. Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 25, 2017 19:24:14 GMT
I would be surprised if Rafa would be interested in the Stoke job, managers like him want a big club that can win trophies or a big club that is underperforming, Stoke are neither of those. If Stoke sacked Hughes, the new contenders might well want to ask Peter Coates why Hughes was sacked after three 9th place finishes and where he expects the club to finish in the PL in the future. Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked I've no idea whether or not he will be sacked, but I'm certain he should be given another season.
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 25, 2017 19:27:44 GMT
Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked I've no idea whether or not he will be sacked, but I'm certain he should be given another season. I'm certain he shouldn't
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Post by Cast no shadow on Apr 25, 2017 19:32:27 GMT
The thread title is something you's hear dara o'brian saying on mock the week
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Post by baystokie on Apr 25, 2017 19:37:10 GMT
I would be surprised if Rafa would be interested in the Stoke job, managers like him want a big club that can win trophies or a big club that is underperforming, Stoke are neither of those. If Stoke sacked Hughes, the new contenders might well want to ask Peter Coates why Hughes was sacked after three 9th place finishes and where he expects the club to finish in the PL in the future. Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked So, if someone like Rafa came in and got us two or three consecutive 8th place finishes and then had a hiccup and ended up, say, 13th in his fourth season, then he'd be on his way too? I can't see any worthwhile manager taking on a job where any hiccup in any four year period results in the P45.
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Post by coupe on Apr 25, 2017 19:56:42 GMT
Because we have posters on here who think Stoke are 5 times a bigger club than it really is and we should be playing like Brazil, with players whose market value is a 1/10th of the top 4 club players in our league, it's like asking a Mini to out run a Ferrari in a F1 race. That's bollox. Hughes has served up dower football and at times utter baffling errors that have served to waste millions and dismantle so much promise. I am not disillusioned nor do I expect Stoke to be Champions League. However, Hughes should be relieved of his duties as he has completely lost his way. Tell me these wasted millions you are on about even the £18 million of Imbula will get recouped by a large chunk, in the right team he can be the real deal on the pitch so I am at a loss on these other deals.
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Post by Onneravineet on Apr 25, 2017 20:54:14 GMT
That's bollox. Hughes has served up dower football and at times utter baffling errors that have served to waste millions and dismantle so much promise. I am not disillusioned nor do I expect Stoke to be Champions League. However, Hughes should be relieved of his duties as he has completely lost his way. Tell me these wasted millions you are on about even the £18 million of Imbula will get recouped by a large chunk, in the right team he can be the real deal on the pitch so I am at a loss on these other deals. Joselu Wolly Imbula (will be lucky to get £10m) Saido, in my opinion, in a deal worth potentially £15m!? Not writing him off at all, but to bring him in when we did when there was no competition was crazy and totally unnecessary when he needed as long as he did to get fit...is he even fit now? Plus, where does he even fit into a system Hughes has played? Bony on wages alone and loan fee
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 25, 2017 21:01:55 GMT
Don't normally post on rumours but I'm putting one up from the weekend.. cos it's a good one.. so put your spud guns down..! Was with a long time Geordie mate of mine who is very matey with a notorious ex Chairman of the Toon.. Reckons that Benitez is still disillusioned with the current owner despite a successful season and Is looking to work back in the NW.. I had heard his name whispered around the Britannia a few times this season but never took it seriously.. Might be complete bollox but he was Adam Ant regarding Sir Peter's interest.. is that a dong thud I hear? N Stand and deliver.
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Post by coupe on Apr 25, 2017 21:23:12 GMT
Bony you are joking everyone on here was having a jizz fest when we got him on loan that's a easy one to say after, but the bloke from day one looked a right lazy bleeder differant from what everybody was expecting, Woolley was needed in the short term. because of Huth, loads on here still rate Joselu and I am convinced Berahino will come good but that is not mega millions wasted by today's standards (teams in the Championship have spent more and pay more in wages) and we will wait and see what the main man does with his purse strings this summer as he is the one who as to worry about the waste of money not the fans
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Post by coupe on Apr 25, 2017 21:32:37 GMT
Tell me these wasted millions you are on about even the £18 million of Imbula will get recouped by a large chunk, in the right team he can be the real deal on the pitch so I am at a loss on these other deals. Joselu Wolly Imbula (will be lucky to get £10m) Saido, in my opinion, in a deal worth potentially £15m!? Not writing him off at all, but to bring him in when we did when there was no competition was crazy and totally unnecessary when he needed as long as he did to get fit...is he even fit now? Plus, where does he even fit into a system Hughes has played? Bony on wages alone and loan fee Fuck me coming from the bloke who was canvassing on here to get Jamie Oh fucking Hara at Stoke I think you must have shares in Big Brother.
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Post by Onneravineet on Apr 25, 2017 21:42:35 GMT
Joselu Wolly Imbula (will be lucky to get £10m) Saido, in my opinion, in a deal worth potentially £15m!? Not writing him off at all, but to bring him in when we did when there was no competition was crazy and totally unnecessary when he needed as long as he did to get fit...is he even fit now? Plus, where does he even fit into a system Hughes has played? Bony on wages alone and loan fee Fuck me coming from the bloke who was canvassing on here to get Jamie Oh fucking Hara at Stoke I think you must have shares in Big Brother. Fuck me you've dug that up?! Jamie O'Hara had it all at Spurs and fucked his own career up. There have been worse and better players that have done the same. If that's the worst you can find you haven't looked hard enough. Anyway, the bollox comment was in reference to your tarring those that think it's time for Hughes to go to be fans that want or expect us to be in the Champions League. I'm not delusional just disillusioned with Hughes time at the helm of our club.
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Post by coupe on Apr 25, 2017 21:54:42 GMT
Well we all talk bollox about Stoke sometime, but I can't think of 1 British manager who is available or who we could attract and that at the moment where we are with Peter Coates because he is the reason we are where we are so thinking the way he does who is there.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 25, 2017 21:59:03 GMT
Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked I've no idea whether or not he will be sacked, but I'm certain he should be given another season. Geoff321 I see where you are coming from, but, its been dire since January 2016, we aren't just talking the last few months. Yes when a team goes on a bad run confidence drains away, I get that. This bloke though just can't seem to lift them. He is spouting so much rubbish in his after match interviews, accusing those asking the question of pulling stats out the air instead of saying it how it is. Its rubbish to watch at the moment and has been for months. If you pay to go regularly I defy you to disagree. I can take losing game after game if there is a concerted effort been shown and we go down fighting, I don't expect us to be world beaters and hitting the top 6. Its dross and he needs to go, 3 top 9 finishes or not.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 25, 2017 22:40:46 GMT
I've no idea whether or not he will be sacked, but I'm certain he should be given another season. Geoff321 I see where you are coming from, but, its been dire since January 2016, we aren't just talking the last few months. Yes when a team goes on a bad run confidence drains away, I get that. This bloke though just can't seem to lift them. He is spouting so much rubbish in his after match interviews, accusing those asking the question of pulling stats out the air instead of saying it how it is. Its rubbish to watch at the moment and has been for months. If you pay to go regularly I defy you to disagree. I can take losing game after game if there is a concerted effort been shown and we go down fighting, I don't expect us to be world beaters and hitting the top 6. Its dross and he needs to go, 3 top 9 finishes or not. With clubs Hughes has managed for a full season his record is as follows: 15th 6th 1Oth 7th 1Oth 8th 9th 9th 9th I would think this season he's likely to finish anywhere between 8th to 16th. It's seems to me that Stoke would find it very difficult to attract another manager with that sort of record. Regarding the style of play I'm not sure which clubs in the PL outside the top seven play attractive football and produce consistent results because in reality every PL game is a battle for valuable points, rather than simply trying to produce a style of play that pleases the fans. If Stoke were to sack Hughes at the end of this season I think many people in the game would be surprised to say the least.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 26, 2017 7:28:18 GMT
Rafa asking for £100,000 to Refurbish his squad and relaunch the Magpies 😲
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 7:46:22 GMT
In answer to the Thread Title, there's more chance of me becoming a Dad again, and I'm a Jaffa.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 7:54:48 GMT
Rafa asking for £100,000 to Refurbish his squad and relaunch the Magpies 😲 That will hardly get him a Jon Parkin and a pack of cheesey Wotsits in today's money. Good luck Rafa!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 7:57:16 GMT
Rafa asking for £100,000 to Refurbish his squad and relaunch the Magpies 😲 That will hardly get him a Jon Parkin and a pack of cheesey Wotsits in today's money. Good luck Rafa! That's nearly as much as we've spent 😘
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 8:00:39 GMT
That will hardly get him a Jon Parkin and a pack of cheesey Wotsits in today's money. Good luck Rafa! That's nearly as much as we've spent 😘 Haha - must have imagined the countless posts saying LMH has pissed money up the wall. Spending £100,000 and keeping us in mid-table is a miracle!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2017 8:20:50 GMT
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Post by haway on Apr 26, 2017 8:42:31 GMT
Rafa asking for £100,000 to Refurbish his squad and relaunch the Magpies 😲 You're missing a few zeros surely
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Post by rawli on Apr 26, 2017 8:52:14 GMT
Rafa asking for £100,000 to Refurbish his squad and relaunch the Magpies 😲 Don't think that would refurbish the changing rooms.
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 26, 2017 8:58:19 GMT
I would be surprised if Rafa would be interested in the Stoke job, managers like him want a big club that can win trophies or a big club that is underperforming, Stoke are neither of those. If Stoke sacked Hughes, the new contenders might well want to ask Peter Coates why Hughes was sacked after three 9th place finishes and where he expects the club to finish in the PL in the future. Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked If Coates sacks Hughes I will eat my Liam Lawrence 7 shorts
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 26, 2017 9:22:20 GMT
Stoke have a mid table PL squad, outside of the big 6/7 clubs which other PL club is producing fast attacking football and getting consistent results? We're playing slow boring football and not getting consistent results is that supposed to be better. Hughes has proved that you can play a far better brand of football and survive and even prosper to an extent in the Premier League. Quite why he's abandoned the course he set is anybody's guess. His new tac doesn't seem to have many admirers though. Its down to his signings, the players he's brought either haven't worked or aren't good enough so he's panicked and gone safe ,if you can call it that, hopefully if he stays he'll sort it out in the summer.
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Post by alster on Apr 26, 2017 9:36:12 GMT
We're playing slow boring football and not getting consistent results is that supposed to be better. Hughes has proved that you can play a far better brand of football and survive and even prosper to an extent in the Premier League. Quite why he's abandoned the course he set is anybody's guess. His new tac doesn't seem to have many admirers though. Its down to his signings, the players he's brought either haven't worked or aren't good enough so he's panicked and gone safe ,if you can call it that, hopefully if he stays he'll sort it out in the summer. I really don't know what you call it other than fucking stupid. There doesn't seem any rhyme or reason for his actions this season. Our most consistent set of results came with Bony up front, yet he dispensed with him before he even went to ACON or we signed Berahino. He's messed about with Crouch and Walters a lot both of whom are never going to be prolific or have any future at this level. Then he bought Berahino and has never given him anyone to thread balls in for him. Hopefully if he stays he will sort it out but there are no signs that he has the first idea how to his thinking is incredibly muddled.
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Post by borat on Apr 26, 2017 9:39:21 GMT
Have you not noticed this season? 3 9th place finishes are fine and all that was needed but this season we are likely gonna finish around 15th looking at our current form. THATs why he will be sacked If Coates sacks Hughes I will eat my Liam Lawrence 7 shorts You better get the ketchup ready he'll be sacked one day😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 9:42:11 GMT
Its down to his signings, the players he's brought either haven't worked or aren't good enough so he's panicked and gone safe ,if you can call it that, hopefully if he stays he'll sort it out in the summer. I really don't know what you call it other than fucking stupid. There doesn't seem any rhyme or reason for his actions this season. Our most consistent set of results came with Bony up front, yet he dispensed with him before he even went to ACON or we signed Berahino. He's messed about with Crouch and Walters a lot both of whom are never going to be prolific or have any future at this level. Then he bought Berahino and has never given him anyone to thread balls in for him. Hopefully if he stays he will sort it out but there are no signs that he has the first idea how to his thinking is incredibly muddled. Plus - decided Diouf wasnt a striker any more, and fucked Joselu off.
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 26, 2017 9:49:24 GMT
Sky sports are saying Rafa wants 100 million for transfers, fkn ludicrous. How many clubs in the world would give him thats sort of money. Go away Raf use your managerial skills too stay in premiership for 20 million, so say some numbnuts on here.
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Post by alster on Apr 26, 2017 9:51:37 GMT
I really don't know what you call it other than fucking stupid. There doesn't seem any rhyme or reason for his actions this season. Our most consistent set of results came with Bony up front, yet he dispensed with him before he even went to ACON or we signed Berahino. He's messed about with Crouch and Walters a lot both of whom are never going to be prolific or have any future at this level. Then he bought Berahino and has never given him anyone to thread balls in for him. Hopefully if he stays he will sort it out but there are no signs that he has the first idea how to his thinking is incredibly muddled. Plus - decided Diouf wasnt a striker any more, and fucked Joselu off. You really couldn't make it up. Its ever likely we don't score many goals. He must have forgotten that playing Diouf up top especially in away games was rather successful even though watching him can be cringeworthy quite often.
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