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Post by thebet365 on Apr 21, 2017 10:09:48 GMT
If this season is anything to go by we'd replace him quite easily. He's looked vulnerable more often than he's looked commanding all the protest at the prospect of him moving on is far more to do with nostalgia than recent evidence. go on then, I'll indulge you - how the buggery do you come to that conclusion? I can tell you Alster's reply Get rid of a player with 1987 on his birth certificate and bring in someone with 1994 onwards on it. Sorted edit : forgot the
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Post by alster on Apr 21, 2017 10:59:24 GMT
If this season is anything to go by we'd replace him quite easily. He's looked vulnerable more often than he's looked commanding all the protest at the prospect of him moving on is far more to do with nostalgia than recent evidence. go on then, I'll indulge you - how the buggery do you come to that conclusion? We'd sign a centre half obviously. Ryan really hasn't been outstanding for different reasons the last 2 seasons. He's far from irreplaceable.
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Post by alster on Apr 21, 2017 11:04:11 GMT
go on then, I'll indulge you - how the buggery do you come to that conclusion? I can tell you Alster's reply Get rid of a player with 1987 on his birth certificate and bring in someone with 1994 onwards on it. Sorted edit : forgot the About right yeah. You'd sell a player that's not finished but at the last opportunity do get decent money for him and invest it in younger. Asset management obviously isn't a strong point for you.
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 21, 2017 11:09:15 GMT
I can tell you Alster's reply Get rid of a player with 1987 on his birth certificate and bring in someone with 1994 onwards on it. Sorted edit : forgot the About right yeah. You'd sell a player that's not finished but at the last opportunity do get decent money for him and invest it in younger. Asset management obviously isn't a strong point for you. Obviously football is not a strong point with you????
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Post by Davef on Apr 21, 2017 11:10:37 GMT
Yeah, because it's dead easy to replace your best players.
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Post by alster on Apr 21, 2017 11:14:07 GMT
About right yeah. You'd sell a player that's not finished but at the last opportunity do get decent money for him and invest it in younger. Asset management obviously isn't a strong point for you. Obviously football is not a strong point with you???? Footballers are the same as any other asset there's a good time to let go of them.
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Post by Will_75 on Apr 21, 2017 11:37:30 GMT
Obviously football is not a strong point with you???? Footballers are the same as any other asset there's a good time to let go of them. they're really, really not. they're not off the shelf, they don't come with a warranty, they're have inefficiency built in, they're prone to unforeseen errors, periods of poor performance, and breakdown.
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Post by senojbor on Apr 21, 2017 15:46:05 GMT
The shit I read on here sometimes is fucking mind-boggling. How many of you fuckers have given your bank details to that bloke in Nigeria who wants you to profit from the estate of his aunt who has died and left 200 million quid but he can't bank it because he doesn't live in the UK? Even enough negative straws will become so sodden that they will eventually drown common sense. It seems as though it's happening on here. OS. What do you mean? If you can't trust the king of Nigeria, who can you trust?
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 21, 2017 15:52:13 GMT
Ryan is a very solid defender who will be very hard to replace. His experience and aerial strength is second to none! Think he is more confident in a back four though. Really hope he stays with us for at least the next 4 years!
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Post by mattythestokie on Apr 21, 2017 16:13:56 GMT
go on then, I'll indulge you - how the buggery do you come to that conclusion? We'd sign a centre half obviously. Ryan really hasn't been outstanding for different reasons the last 2 seasons. He's far from irreplaceable. We haven't even found a perminant partner to go with him yet never mind replacing him. And we're punching well above our weight with Bruno who I don't think will be here next season. But yeah, Shawcross is far from irreplaceable and easy to replace.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 21, 2017 22:00:25 GMT
In all the top 2 leagues in all the countries of the world there will be dozens of players who could replace Shawcross.
He cost us a million.
There's another load of him out there and we'll find one if we have to.
He is not irreplaceable in any way, just as Shtaniuk, Abdy or Huth weren't.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2017 22:05:47 GMT
Obviously football is not a strong point with you???? Footballers are the same as any other asset there's a good time to let go of them. Football Manager 2017 isn't real life mate.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 21, 2017 22:24:15 GMT
Footballers are the same as any other asset there's a good time to let go of them. Football Manager 2017 isn't real life mate. FM2015 was much closer to reality. Bojan was shit on that too.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Apr 21, 2017 22:33:30 GMT
Thank God the right-back situation, the left-back situation, the other centre-halves, the midfield situation, and the striker situation are all in such good shape that we are allowed the luxury of taking a leap into the unknown in discarding our 400-game lynchpin captain, eh? Exactly. Can't see Ryan or Bruno here next year. But hey Hughes is the man for the job. He made a clear statement of intent that he knows we need youth and pace. That's why his first act was to resign Johnson. Oh er damn.
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Post by turtlefox on Apr 21, 2017 22:36:48 GMT
I'd sell him if he wanted to go because he deserves that if those were his wishes. If he wanted to stay then we would be stupid to let him know that he was replaceable. He's had a tough couple of years with whatever has been wrong with him but I don't think he is past it by a long stretch. Ryan hasn't been fickle with us and I don't think we should be fickle with him. He could have a good 5-6 years left if he can get over his injuries and confidence issues.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Apr 22, 2017 8:52:56 GMT
I'd personally sell him.
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Post by butlerstbob on Apr 22, 2017 9:03:11 GMT
Thank god the Oatcake is no comparison to how people run our football club, get rid of Shawcross....give your heads a wobble!
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Post by homer32 on Apr 22, 2017 9:13:32 GMT
Ryan isn't the player he was before his back injury and it's probably time he moved on.He is still a good Premiership centre back but its time we looked for a replacement who will be better and will improve us.
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Post by butlerstbob on Apr 22, 2017 9:18:14 GMT
Ryan isn't the player he was before his back injury and it's probably time he moved on.He is still a good Premiership centre back but its time we looked for a replacement who will be better and will improve us. Yes your right because its THAT easy to replace your BEST players!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 22, 2017 9:25:53 GMT
Fuck me gently! People would let Ryan go?
You're all fucking nuts.
Here endeth my input into the thread!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:27:31 GMT
Fuck me gently! People would let Ryan go? You're all fucking nuts. Here endeth my input into the thread! Nothing else needs saying.
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Post by boothenender on Apr 22, 2017 9:28:36 GMT
Ryan should stay.
Good honest player and captain. He knows the club inside out and I think it will be difficult to replace him. Also I am not over confident with LMH and his backroom staff transfer record. We could end up with another overpriced piece of meat that has low ability and poor reliability record. With Ryan and Jack back things will look a lot more solid at the back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:30:10 GMT
Ryan should stay. Good honest player and captain. He knows the club inside out and I think it will be difficult to replace him. Also I am not over confident with LMH and his backroom staff transfer record. We could end up with another overpriced piece of meat that has low ability and poor reliability record. With Ryan and Jack back things will look a lot more solid at the back. We could really do with BMI as well. I think he would have signed by now if he was going to.
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Post by boothenender on Apr 22, 2017 9:34:16 GMT
We need to make BMI an offer he can't refuse. We know what he has to offer us. Simples, but this is Stoke City we are talking about.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 22, 2017 9:35:25 GMT
Any offer below £18M should be laughed out of town.
We should do everything possible to keep our better players.
Ryan Shawcross is one of our better players.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 22, 2017 9:40:56 GMT
Ryan should stay. Good honest player and captain. He knows the club inside out and I think it will be difficult to replace him. Also I am not over confident with LMH and his backroom staff transfer record. We could end up with another overpriced piece of meat that has low ability and poor reliability record. With Ryan and Jack back things will look a lot more solid at the back. We could really do with BMI as well. I think he would have signed by now if he was going to. I agree with you- I am surprised that the Indi situation is still open as Watford have been able to announce the signing of Cleverley even though the window is supposedly closed. Still the football manager brigade try to convince us that it will be easy to replace a player who has featured Year in year out inour top 3 perfomers. This year has not been his best but don't forget the seriousness of the injury that he has come back from. I forgot though that Stoke fans are the best talent spotters around so it will be easy to replace Shawcross- look at how easy Man C have found it to replace Company. Some Stoke fans are lower than Shark's droppings with their desire and haste to hound Shawcross out of the club.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 22, 2017 9:52:13 GMT
Fuck me gently! People would let Ryan go? You're all fucking nuts. Here endeth my input into the thread! You really couldn't make it up could you?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 22, 2017 9:54:18 GMT
Wolly is still our player, Johnson has played centre back this season, there's your plan!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2017 9:55:16 GMT
Fuck me gently! People would let Ryan go? You're all fucking nuts. Here endeth my input into the thread! Spot on. I'd lock the thread here and now on this note if it wasn't for the nagging doubt that there are some people at the club who are in the asylum you describe. Otherwise he'd be contacted up to the end of his career by now
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:55:58 GMT
Fuck me gently! People would let Ryan go? You're all fucking nuts. Here endeth my input into the thread! You really couldn't make it up could you? It seems you can.
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