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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 21:46:48 GMT
What's with the selfies? Piss that off
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 22, 2017 21:47:08 GMT
We seemed to dominate throughout but the losers mentality runs deep in english football.
There were times in the second half when it seemed we were trying to walk the ball in.
Lack of intelligence and winners instinct.
The shitty group qualifiers playing against wank teams all the time is the biggest problem
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 21:47:59 GMT
Scotland managed a draw v Canada. Bloody well done Scotland
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 21:50:28 GMT
Lack of intelligence and winners instinct. 100% correct.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 22, 2017 21:53:00 GMT
In what way is that constructive? Its about individual players and whether they are up to the mark. We have a very limited pool of players and they need all the experience they can get and a few of them did well and made some progress. I don't know what we expect. We need to improve that's all. They scored a wonder goal, but the manager gets to learn more about his players. Friendlies are friendlies......so what's the alternative?
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 22, 2017 21:53:04 GMT
Lack of intelligence and winners instinct. 100% correct. Lack of intensity for me. Why take Defoe and not use him? He's our most natural goalscorer. At the end Germany were taking the piss and we didn't press them at all, lallana and vardy can press for fun with there clubs but are half arsed in a England shirt.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 22, 2017 21:54:39 GMT
We seemed to dominate throughout but the losers mentality runs deep in english football. There were times in the second half when it seemed we were trying to walk the ball in. Lack of intelligence and winners instinct. The shitty group qualifiers playing against wank teams all the time is the biggest problem Maybe we should try harder to under perform in tournaments That way we'll draw tougher teams in qualification and get better because of it???
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 21:58:01 GMT
Lack of intensity for me. Why take Defoe and not use him? He's our most natural goalscorer. At the end Germany were taking the piss and we didn't press them at all, lallana and vardy can press for fun with there clubs but are half arsed in a England shirt. I disagree with the notion they don't try for England. What they are for England is inferior to the opposition.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 21:59:48 GMT
Delle Alli fucking that chance up says a lot. Good save but he should have done better. Like scoring a goal even.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 22:01:41 GMT
The real problem is what we are seeing now and over the next few days - the usual post mortem because we lost.
We have a new coach, a new system and a new batch of young players.
It's time to ignore results and focus on bedding everything down in readiness for the big tournaments.
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Post by block30row19 on Mar 22, 2017 22:07:16 GMT
More like the England of old that. Playing well and losing. As opposed to playing shit and losing ! 😀
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 22, 2017 22:08:53 GMT
More like the England of old that. Playing well and losing. As opposed to playing shit and losing ! 😀 Things are looking up!!
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Post by Gods on Mar 22, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
I liked the England kit.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 22, 2017 22:11:39 GMT
Stones to save the day. Score a goal pal! The gall of it! Goals conceded without Stones - 1 Goals conceded with Stones - 0 I think it's fairly obvious just how important he is to English footballs future ...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2017 22:13:04 GMT
In what way is that constructive? Its about individual players and whether they are up to the mark. We have a very limited pool of players and they need all the experience they can get and a few of them did well and made some progress. I don't know what we expect. We need to improve that's all. They scored a wonder goal, but the manager gets to learn more about his players. Friendlies are friendlies......so what's the alternative? People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 22, 2017 22:14:57 GMT
In what way is that constructive? Its about individual players and whether they are up to the mark. We have a very limited pool of players and they need all the experience they can get and a few of them did well and made some progress. I don't know what we expect. We need to improve that's all. They scored a wonder goal, but the manager gets to learn more about his players. Friendlies are friendlies......so what's the alternative? People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. Never looked like scoring? You sure about that? We actually missed some good chances. Lallana and Alli should've had us 2 up in the first half alone!
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 22, 2017 22:18:20 GMT
I hate to agree with bayern 😀...But Germany didn't even get out of first gear and still beat us..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2017 22:22:07 GMT
People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. Never looked like scoring? You sure about that? We actually missed some good chances. Lallana and Alli should've had us 2 up in the first half alone! Never had faith in either. It was just typical England. And it was a testimonial, not even a friendly really.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 22, 2017 22:25:49 GMT
Goals conceded without Stones - 1 Goals conceded with Stones - 0 I think it's fairly obvious just how important he is to English footballs future ... It was just an excuse to use an old Carry On line. I'm easy pleased, me!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 22, 2017 22:30:07 GMT
In what way is that constructive? Its about individual players and whether they are up to the mark. We have a very limited pool of players and they need all the experience they can get and a few of them did well and made some progress. I don't know what we expect. We need to improve that's all. They scored a wonder goal, but the manager gets to learn more about his players. Friendlies are friendlies......so what's the alternative? People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. They are certainly not getting carried away on here. Same old negative shite. We have fans and media who desperately want us to fail. When we talk about a psychology of failure then look no further. It doesn't just come from the players. Its called our culture. Welcome to England! Most of Germany's B side, as you call it would walk into our team. That's the reality.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2017 22:31:17 GMT
People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. They are certainly not getting carried away on here. Same old negative shite. We have fans and media who desperately want us to fail. When we talk about a psychology of failure then look no further. It doesn't just come from the players. Its called our culture. Welcome to England! Most of Germany's B side, as you call it would walk into our team. That's the reality. They would but we're shit. I'm not denying that!
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Post by lordb on Mar 22, 2017 22:35:09 GMT
In what way is that constructive? Its about individual players and whether they are up to the mark. We have a very limited pool of players and they need all the experience they can get and a few of them did well and made some progress. I don't know what we expect. We need to improve that's all. They scored a wonder goal, but the manager gets to learn more about his players. Friendlies are friendlies......so what's the alternative? People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. Alli missed a sitter,Lalana hit the post,Keane flashed a shot just over. All three should have been goals. Yes let's not get carried away but don't make stuff up. England had a clear shape which worked, before all the subs (curse of friendlies) England dominated the game and should have well ahead. That's a huge improvement for me. Well done Southgate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2017 22:46:30 GMT
People are getting carried away with a glorious defeat against a B team where we passed the ball but never really looked like scoring. It's nothing about friendlies themselves. Alli missed a sitter,Lalana hit the post,Keane flashed a shot just over. All three should have been goals. Yes let's not get carried away but don't make stuff up. England had a clear shape which worked, before all the subs (curse of friendlies) England dominated the game and should have well ahead. That's a huge improvement for me. Well done Southgate. It was a testimonial against a B side who didn't get out first gear. Shoulda woulda coulda. Lallana misses chances it's what he does best. Keanes was difficult. Alli bottled it. Typical England player. We got what we deserved.
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Post by eddy on Mar 22, 2017 22:49:10 GMT
I think Southgate is the biggest positive from that Set up well, tactically pretty good and he got a bit of a tune out of a pretty weak team who haven't played together much. A bit more of a clinical edge required - Kane will help this aspect when fit. Alli will be a starter for years to come. I know its a friendly, and a loss at that, but promising signs
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 22, 2017 22:51:09 GMT
Lack of intensity for me. Why take Defoe and not use him? He's our most natural goalscorer. At the end Germany were taking the piss and we didn't press them at all, lallana and vardy can press for fun with there clubs but are half arsed in a England shirt. I disagree with the notion they don't try for England. What they are for England is inferior to the opposition. That's the problem with the nation as a whole. The squad on paper is brilliant yet the mentality and work ethic is totally wrong, if we were well drilled and pressed as a team, and actually played with a system, we would do a lot better than we do.
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Post by lordb on Mar 22, 2017 23:06:40 GMT
I disagree with the notion they don't try for England. What they are for England is inferior to the opposition. That's the problem with the nation as a whole. The squad on paper is brilliant yet the mentality and work ethic is totally wrong, if we were well drilled and pressed as a team, and actually played with a system, we would do a lot better than we do. That's exactly what England did tonight! Pressed,very well, had a clear system,players knew their roles,work ethic was good. Passed well,got in behind more than once and but for lack of finish would have won comfortably. Only a friendly against a scratch Germany side and only one game.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2017 23:09:30 GMT
Alli missed a sitter,Lalana hit the post,Keane flashed a shot just over. All three should have been goals. Yes let's not get carried away but don't make stuff up. England had a clear shape which worked, before all the subs (curse of friendlies) England dominated the game and should have well ahead. That's a huge improvement for me. Well done Southgate. It was a testimonial against a B side who didn't get out first gear. Shoulda woulda coulda. Lallana misses chances it's what he does best. Keanes was difficult. Alli bottled it. Typical England player. We got what we deserved. We were hardly at full strength ourselves were we?
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2017 23:10:27 GMT
That's the problem with the nation as a whole. The squad on paper is brilliant yet the mentality and work ethic is totally wrong, if we were well drilled and pressed as a team, and actually played with a system, we would do a lot better than we do. That's exactly what England did tonight! Pressed,very well, had a clear system,players knew their roles,work ethic was good. Passed well,got in behind more than once and but for lack of finish would have won comfortably. Only a friendly against a scratch Germany side and only one game. I think 3 at the back suits us. We have the full/wing backs to make it work.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2017 23:14:45 GMT
It was a testimonial against a B side who didn't get out first gear. Shoulda woulda coulda. Lallana misses chances it's what he does best. Keanes was difficult. Alli bottled it. Typical England player. We got what we deserved. We were hardly at full strength ourselves were we? We weren't but if it was a qualifier would the team be much different? It'd have Stones in. And Sterling. That's it. That's where English football is.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2017 23:28:19 GMT
We were hardly at full strength ourselves were we? We weren't but if it was a qualifier would the team be much different? It'd have Stones in. And Sterling. That's it. That's where English football is. Full strength and playing that system we were missing the two you mentioned plus Kane, Rose, Jones, and Henderson at least.
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