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Post by leoncort on Jan 26, 2017 12:47:10 GMT
I'm 22, had a season ticket since i was 7 and in them years i can barely recall us having many if any good full backs. yes when Pulis was here he loved 4 cbs accross the back four so the position struggled but other than Hoefkens who i was a big fan of i cant remember many others (wilko perhaps but not going forward).
why on earth, with just pieters, bardsley and an ageing glen (who is good on his day) arent we out buying young good fullbacks. you only have to look at west ham buying creswell and byram? for what £5m combined? when most fans in the country could have told you cresswell was going to be a good solid prem player pushing for england when he was at ipswich.
The likes of Taylor at Leeds now, who i have seen a few times live and looks excellent already. Villa snapping up Bree from Barnsley for f all, look at the young defenders to have left barnsley in recent seasons??? even if they are just on the bench initially, or we buy them in and loan them out, its much more economical than buying an injury prone 30 year old or a gamble off the continent.
Good full backs could really push us on, defensively and offensively. we've moved on from woodgate at RB (still have nightmares of that first 20 mins away at wolves...) but there is a long way to go, good position to fill our home grown quota too.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jan 26, 2017 12:48:35 GMT
Andy Griffin.
P.S. Bryan 'Disco' Small dislikes this thread very much so.
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Post by thanksjon on Jan 26, 2017 12:49:40 GMT
Tierney at Celtic is top notch and young.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 26, 2017 12:51:41 GMT
Tottenham have the best full-backs and look at how well they're doing. We definitely need cover for Erik that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 13:02:15 GMT
Joel Taylor is a very good prospect isn't he?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 26, 2017 13:25:10 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones.
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Post by leoncort on Jan 26, 2017 13:26:31 GMT
good prospects need to be given the chances though, hence why buying plsyers with 50 football league caps seems a good option. at least he has gone on loan now.
Andy griffin was solid for us to be fair.
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Post by ysc1 on Jan 26, 2017 13:30:45 GMT
John halls. Cracking full back
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Post by RichJonesy on Jan 26, 2017 13:34:48 GMT
What was up with Wilko and Dicko!?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 13:59:53 GMT
John halls. Cracking full back Fucking yes.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 26, 2017 14:02:53 GMT
John halls. Cracking full back Isn't he a model now? edit: Ahem, yep. One for you there Waggy lad.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 26, 2017 14:03:24 GMT
The Punisher (just about sneaks into your time frame I think)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 14:57:52 GMT
I agree with leon. Younger, quicker full backs are needed, as I have said many times before! Next thing in the squad to sort IMHO!
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Post by ElworthPotter on Jan 26, 2017 15:58:28 GMT
Tierney at Celtic is top notch and young. the thing is, you can never really tell because he might look top notch now because he's playing against total dross week in week out up there
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 15:58:57 GMT
I'm 22, had a season ticket since i was 7 and in them years i can barely recall us having many if any good full backs. yes when Pulis was here he loved 4 cbs accross the back four so the position struggled but other than Hoefkens who i was a big fan of i cant remember many others (wilko perhaps but not going forward). why on earth, with just pieters, bardsley and an ageing glen (who is good on his day) arent we out buying young good fullbacks. you only have to look at west ham buying creswell and byram? for what £5m combined? when most fans in the country could have told you cresswell was going to be a good solid prem player pushing for england when he was at ipswich. The likes of Taylor at Leeds now, who i have seen a few times live and looks excellent already. Villa snapping up Bree from Barnsley for f all, look at the young defenders to have left barnsley in recent seasons??? even if they are just on the bench initially, or we buy them in and loan them out, its much more economical than buying an injury prone 30 year old or a gamble off the continent. Good full backs could really push us on, defensively and offensively. we've moved on from woodgate at RB (still have nightmares of that first 20 mins away at wolves...) but there is a long way to go, good position to fill our home grown quota too. You don't like Wilko then?
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Post by akstoke93 on Jan 26, 2017 16:05:57 GMT
agree with this post 100%
Ben Davies Kieran Trippier Kieran Tierney Charlie Taylor Luke Shaw Fosu-Mensah
Just to name a few!
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Post by smithypotter on Jan 26, 2017 16:14:06 GMT
I'm 22, had a season ticket since i was 7 and in them years i can barely recall us having many if any good full backs. yes when Pulis was here he loved 4 cbs accross the back four so the position struggled but other than Hoefkens who i was a big fan of i cant remember many others (wilko perhaps but not going forward). why on earth, with just pieters, bardsley and an ageing glen (who is good on his day) arent we out buying young good fullbacks. you only have to look at west ham buying creswell and byram? for what £5m combined? when most fans in the country could have told you cresswell was going to be a good solid prem player pushing for england when he was at ipswich. The likes of Taylor at Leeds now, who i have seen a few times live and looks excellent already. Villa snapping up Bree from Barnsley for f all, look at the young defenders to have left barnsley in recent seasons??? even if they are just on the bench initially, or we buy them in and loan them out, its much more economical than buying an injury prone 30 year old or a gamble off the continent. Good full backs could really push us on, defensively and offensively. we've moved on from woodgate at RB (still have nightmares of that first 20 mins away at wolves...) but there is a long way to go, good position to fill our home grown quota too. You don't like Wilko then? I hate it when radio stoke call (or used to) Nigel Johnson 'Mr Stoke City'. If anyone deserves that title it should be Wilko, for commitment and passion to the club alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 16:17:31 GMT
John halls. Cracking full back Isn't he a model now? edit: Ahem, yep. One for you there Waggy lad. He is. Don't know how from his look in my display picture. Easily my favourite player, I don't think I'll ever be as excited to see a full back get the ball like I did him.
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Post by leoncort on Jan 26, 2017 16:25:21 GMT
I was a big fan of Wilko, but lets get real a wilko type of full back doesnt fit our system now. All good teams have good attacking fullbacks who can cross a ball and provide a good amount of assists. its a totally new stream of goals we could have. Johnson has done it on occassion but particularly at home against weaker sides fullbacks can double up as additional wingers when our wingers cut inside (which is 80% of the time).
As mentioned above, spurs have good full backs and are doing well. the shit always had good full backs in their prime too. city are struggling this year, perhaps due to ageing past it fullbacks not chipping in? baines always used to get a lot of goals and assists at full back? it massively helps the offensive players out.
an argument is that they are there to defend, but how many times has pieters been caught out defensively this year? we need to address the positions in this transfer window or the next.
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Post by yamyampotter on Jan 26, 2017 16:43:43 GMT
Mikael Hansson was a great full back. Good defender, could get forward well. Shame that injuries ruined him.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 26, 2017 16:59:30 GMT
Wayne Thomas? Gabriel Zakuani?
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Post by nonameface on Jan 26, 2017 18:20:06 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Diouf and? Johnson, Bardsley, Pieters and Muniesa are mid table to bottom end premier league full backs so nothing to get too panicky about and we could probably keep them for as long as they continue to operate at those levels. But if we can get one mobile defensive midfielder I'd then be looking at the whole back line as the next area to improve in the summer with particular focus on full backs if we can get Martins Indi in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 19:09:37 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Rose and Walker are excellent full backs Dave. Ours do a good solid job. Johnson is not the bucanneering full back he one was and to be fair understandably so. Erik is sound albeit with the odd ricket in him. How many times does he get forward in fantastic positions only to balls it up. There's plenty of room for improvement in both full back areas.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 26, 2017 19:13:50 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Rose and Walker are excellent full backs Dave. Ours do a good solid job. Johnson is not the bucanneering full back he one was and to be fair understandably so. Erik is sound albeit with the odd ricket in him. How many times does he get forward in fantastic positions only to balls it up. There's plenty of room for improvement in both full back areas. Wouldn't even call those two excellent to be honest. Not Ashley Cole or Gary Neville level anyway. But they're certainly good.
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Post by Waggy on Jan 26, 2017 19:17:29 GMT
John halls. Cracking full back Isn't he a model now? edit: Ahem, yep. One for you there Waggy lad. Not what i go for. I prefer to look at the ladies lingerie section in my catologue. No i dont like to view makes not for me. Nice briefs though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 19:47:02 GMT
Mikael Hansson was a great full back. Good defender, could get forward well. Shame that injuries ruined him. He was superb, used to love watching him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 26, 2017 20:08:09 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Rose and Walker are excellent full backs Dave. Ours do a good solid job. Johnson is not the bucanneering full back he one was and to be fair understandably so. Erik is sound albeit with the odd ricket in him. How many times does he get forward in fantastic positions only to balls it up. There's plenty of room for improvement in both full back areas. A very fair assessment. Bardo has been our best right back as well in the last 12 months imo. 2 new full backs are a must in the summer.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 26, 2017 21:56:53 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Rose and Walker are excellent full backs Dave. Ours do a good solid job. Johnson is not the bucanneering full back he one was and to be fair understandably so. Erik is sound albeit with the odd ricket in him. How many times does he get forward in fantastic positions only to balls it up. There's plenty of room for improvement in both full back areas. Tottenham are trying to win the league. There's a bit of a difference.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 26, 2017 22:00:07 GMT
We've currently got 2 excellent ones. Diouf and? Johnson, Bardsley, Pieters and Muniesa are mid table to bottom end premier league full backs so nothing to get too panicky about and we could probably keep them for as long as they continue to operate at those levels. But if we can get one mobile defensive midfielder I'd then be looking at the whole back line as the next area to improve in the summer with particular focus on full backs if we can get Martins Indi in. Pieters has been a near ever present in a team that has 3 consecutive 9th placed finishes. Johnson has 50+ international caps and how many domestic winners medals to his name. Bottom end full backs you say?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 26, 2017 22:03:08 GMT
Rose and Walker are excellent full backs Dave. Ours do a good solid job. Johnson is not the bucanneering full back he one was and to be fair understandably so. Erik is sound albeit with the odd ricket in him. How many times does he get forward in fantastic positions only to balls it up. There's plenty of room for improvement in both full back areas. Tottenham are trying to win the league. There's a bit of a difference. That's his point!
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