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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 19:28:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 19:32:58 GMT
He's a boring old fart is Mike
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 20, 2017 19:34:03 GMT
Forgotten more about football than most of us have ever known,
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Post by block30row19 on Jan 20, 2017 19:35:47 GMT
This is the bloke who agreed with UEFA that the England team should not wear a poppy 🙄
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Post by wuzza on Jan 20, 2017 19:36:23 GMT
Makes a lot of very valid points on the radio and isn't frightened of going against 'popular opinion' I think he's ok.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 20, 2017 19:36:51 GMT
Forgotten more about football than most of us have ever known, He'd better start remembering some then because all he chats lately is arse gravy.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 19:42:21 GMT
Forgotten more about football than most of us have ever known, which makes his poor opinions even more funnier
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 20, 2017 19:46:40 GMT
Forgotten more about football than most of us have ever known, He'd better start remembering some then because all he chats lately is arse gravy. I don't think there's much arse gravy in that article, if Shaq was tearing defences to pieces week in week out we could indulge him a little. Pej is basically saying Shaq needs to produce the goods before he showboats and then sends a pass 10 yards sideways and I reckon he's right
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 20:00:21 GMT
He'd better start remembering some then because all he chats lately is arse gravy. I don't think there's much arse gravy in that article, if Shaq was tearing defences to pieces week in week out we could indulge him a little. Pej is basically saying Shaq needs to produce the goods before he showboats and then sends a pass 10 yards sideways and I reckon he's right his words are implying that shaqiri is disrespecting his opponent, which is a load of bollocks. And picking a player out after our best performance (and the player's best in weeks) seems odd as well
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 20, 2017 20:13:57 GMT
I don't think there's much arse gravy in that article, if Shaq was tearing defences to pieces week in week out we could indulge him a little. Pej is basically saying Shaq needs to produce the goods before he showboats and then sends a pass 10 yards sideways and I reckon he's right his words are implying that shaqiri is disrespecting his opponent, which is a load of bollocks. And picking a player out after our best performance (and the player's best in weeks) seems odd as well I love to see players on top of their game and showboating, Arnie does it most weeks but that's because of a natural ability and it's a joy to watch. The Shaq incident was different and when I saw it commented on how ridiculous it looked. Shaq has great ability and technique and his 'flip flap' is also a joy to watch but last Saturday's disorientated leg wave was a bit embarrassing.
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Post by vamborools on Jan 20, 2017 20:50:07 GMT
Not heard much of Pejic on the radio, but the few times I have, he always appears to be moaning about us. I'm sure he doesn't like Hughes very much
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 21:14:01 GMT
Not heard much of Pejic on the radio, but the few times I have, he always appears to be moaning about us. I'm sure he doesn't like Hughes very much someone once said to me big reason he seems to moan a lot is because he's from the 70s generation, which obviously didn't have the riches the league has today. And he doesn't like the current side being compared to his. Jealousy probably.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 20, 2017 21:29:31 GMT
Not heard much of Pejic on the radio, but the few times I have, he always appears to be moaning about us. I'm sure he doesn't like Hughes very much someone once said to me big reason he seems to moan a lot is because he's from the 70s generation, which obviously didn't have the riches the league has today. And he doesn't like the current side being compared to his. Jealousy probably. Or he was a highly talented footballer (we haven't had a left back fit to lace his boots since he finished) who understands the game inside out and passes opinion accordingly.
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Post by AlliG on Jan 20, 2017 21:34:25 GMT
Not heard much of Pejic on the radio, but the few times I have, he always appears to be moaning about us. I'm sure he doesn't like Hughes very much someone once said to me big reason he seems to moan a lot is because he's from the 70s generation, which obviously didn't have the riches the league has today. And he doesn't like the current side being compared to his. Jealousy probably. It has nothing to do with that. If you listen to any of the 1970s team, Pej has always been a miserable sod who couldn't wait to get away from the ground and back to his farm. If anything he has lightened up a lot in the last few years. Remember this is a player who was allegedly left out of the England squad because he didn't smile enough (at all)!
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Post by chrisparker on Jan 20, 2017 21:34:32 GMT
Not heard much of Pejic on the radio, but the few times I have, he always appears to be moaning about us. I'm sure he doesn't like Hughes very much "Apparently" he's a massive Hughes fan and he mentions that every time before tearing him a new one.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 21:37:25 GMT
someone once said to me big reason he seems to moan a lot is because he's from the 70s generation, which obviously didn't have the riches the league has today. And he doesn't like the current side being compared to his. Jealousy probably. Or he was a highly talented footballer (we haven't had a left back fit to lace his boots since he finished) who understands the game inside out and passes opinion accordingly. who left 40 years ago, most of our fans wouldn't have seen him play His opinions are often biased, lacking fact and seem to based on agendas and his favourites. Just because he used to play for stoke (and I accept he's up there as one of our best ever players) that doesn't mean he shouldn't receive some criticism. After all, if he writes a column and talks on radio he should expect some replies.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 20, 2017 21:45:59 GMT
Or he was a highly talented footballer (we haven't had a left back fit to lace his boots since he finished) who understands the game inside out and passes opinion accordingly. who left 40 years ago, most of our fans wouldn't have seen him play His opinions are often biased, lacking fact and seem to based on agendas and his favourites. Just because he used to play for stoke (and I accept he's up there as one of our best ever players) that doesn't mean he shouldn't receive some criticism. After all, if he writes a column and talks on radio he should expect some replies. Criticise all you like but do it in the light of the fact the bloke was a very very good footballer, hard as nails and ultra competitive. He sets high standards that he would expect top flight players to meet. I suggest his judgement of football 'facts' if there are such things are probably based on more knowledge than yours or mine. (a couple of years back Denis Smith - another bloke who knows what he's on about- was getting pelters for being too nice about the team and all involved so it looks like a bit of a no win scenario for these ex-players) .
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Post by lordb on Jan 20, 2017 22:16:54 GMT
who left 40 years ago, most of our fans wouldn't have seen him play His opinions are often biased, lacking fact and seem to based on agendas and his favourites. Just because he used to play for stoke (and I accept he's up there as one of our best ever players) that doesn't mean he shouldn't receive some criticism. After all, if he writes a column and talks on radio he should expect some replies. Criticise all you like but do it in the light of the fact the bloke was a very very good footballer, hard as nails and ultra competitive. He sets high standards that he would expect top flight players to meet. I suggest his judgement of football 'facts' if there are such things are probably based on more knowledge than yours or mine. (a couple of years back Denis Smith - another bloke who knows what he's on about- was getting pelters for being too nice about the team and all involved so it looks like a bit of a no win scenario for these ex-players) . Smith and Pejic can both be ridiculous at times one too positive the too negative.They both love Stoke though. I think radio Stoke should get them both on at the same time so you get both views.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 20, 2017 22:20:28 GMT
who left 40 years ago, most of our fans wouldn't have seen him play His opinions are often biased, lacking fact and seem to based on agendas and his favourites. Just because he used to play for stoke (and I accept he's up there as one of our best ever players) that doesn't mean he shouldn't receive some criticism. After all, if he writes a column and talks on radio he should expect some replies. Criticise all you like but do it in the light of the fact the bloke was a very very good footballer, hard as nails and ultra competitive. He sets high standards that he would expect top flight players to meet. I suggest his judgement of football 'facts' if there are such things are probably based on more knowledge than yours or mine. (a couple of years back Denis Smith - another bloke who knows what he's on about- was getting pelters for being too nice about the team and all involved so it looks like a bit of a no win scenario for these ex-players) . not saying he shouldn't criticise, or he should moan all the time but some of his stuff is pure drivel I have to be honest. This today moaning about a player for showboating when we are winning comfortably (and playing our best football in months). Saying the sunderland player isn't being showed respect, why should he be if he's already 3-0 down at that point? In the past it's included praising his favourites (generally the homegrown players), the old digging out of Nzonzi & Arnautovic (unjustified), playing 2 full backs at centre back, saying Bojan wasn't interested in stoke after 1 bad game, etc If it was a random old bloke saying these things to me I'd laugh it off.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 20, 2017 22:23:52 GMT
Criticise all you like but do it in the light of the fact the bloke was a very very good footballer, hard as nails and ultra competitive. He sets high standards that he would expect top flight players to meet. I suggest his judgement of football 'facts' if there are such things are probably based on more knowledge than yours or mine. (a couple of years back Denis Smith - another bloke who knows what he's on about- was getting pelters for being too nice about the team and all involved so it looks like a bit of a no win scenario for these ex-players) . Smith and Pejic can both be ridiculous at times one too positive the too negative.They both love Stoke though. I think radio Stoke should get them both on at the same time so you get both views. There's no real harm in it though is there? I'd rather hear Pej and Smith on about Stoke than that circle of pomposity who surround a croissant on a Sunday on Sky. Then again if you're not in the top 6 or are West Ham, they don't seem to know you exist.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 20, 2017 22:26:20 GMT
Criticise all you like but do it in the light of the fact the bloke was a very very good footballer, hard as nails and ultra competitive. He sets high standards that he would expect top flight players to meet. I suggest his judgement of football 'facts' if there are such things are probably based on more knowledge than yours or mine. (a couple of years back Denis Smith - another bloke who knows what he's on about- was getting pelters for being too nice about the team and all involved so it looks like a bit of a no win scenario for these ex-players) . not saying he shouldn't criticise, or he should moan all the time but some of his stuff is pure drivel I have to be honest. This today moaning about a player for showboating when we are winning comfortably (and playing our best football in months). Saying the sunderland player isn't being showed respect, why should he be if he's already 3-0 down at that point? In the past it's included praising his favourites (generally the homegrown players), the old digging out of Nzonzi & Arnautovic (unjustified), playing 2 full backs at centre back, saying Bojan wasn't interested in stoke after 1 bad game, etc If it was a random old bloke saying these things to me I'd laugh it off. Tell you one thing for certain if Shaq had tried to showboat against Pej it would have been his last act in this world!!
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Post by samba :) on Jan 20, 2017 23:50:46 GMT
Thats the most clickbaity headline ive ever seen
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 9:08:18 GMT
At my age I find it funny to realise I do still have boyhood heroes but I do and the Stoke 70's side contains one of them, Pej. Pej gives good column but he bemoans the lack of tackling in the modern game,yet I watched the vid of his pensioners' world Taekwando final and neither of the fighters fought each other. They just took turns solo vogueing. And there's a cracking photo of Pej playing proper Taekwando for England vs Scotland's Billy Bremner, with Pej flying in and Bremner trying to sideways hurdle the onslaught with the ball nowhere to be seen.
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Post by mondeoman on Jan 21, 2017 9:22:16 GMT
someone once said to me big reason he seems to moan a lot is because he's from the 70s generation, which obviously didn't have the riches the league has today. And he doesn't like the current side being compared to his. Jealousy probably. Or he was a highly talented footballer (we haven't had a left back fit to lace his boots since he finished) who understands the game inside out and passes opinion accordingly. Wuzza is correct, Pej was phenomenal and if Shaq had tried that leg waving shit with Pej he'd never do it again cos' he'd be taught a lesson he'd never forget.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 21, 2017 10:25:48 GMT
Or he was a highly talented footballer (we haven't had a left back fit to lace his boots since he finished) who understands the game inside out and passes opinion accordingly. Wuzza is correct, Pej was phenomenal and if Shaq had tried that leg waving shit with Pej he'd never do it again cos' he'd be taught a lesson he'd never forget. He'd have got sent off!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 10:26:52 GMT
Gave his all for Stoke City did Mike. You might disagree with him, but I bet he cares about Stoke more than a lot of people.
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 21, 2017 10:28:18 GMT
I met Pej for the first time last year and he was not at all what I expected, he came across as a decent, friendly bloke, Rather like an earlier post mentions Terry Conroy tells me that Mike was a miserable unsociable sod back in their day but he's rather turned full circle.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jan 21, 2017 11:26:21 GMT
Not much wrong in what he says; Shaq needs to produce the goods on a regular basis
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 21, 2017 11:28:54 GMT
Perfectly in agreement with the contents of this particular opinion
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Post by thehoof on Jan 21, 2017 11:39:34 GMT
Pej would have a real adversity to showboating, as in his final game for England (see Slip's picture), Jimmy Johnstone sent him the wrong way so many times he did,nt know whether he was in England or Scotland. He's entitled to his opinion as is that other Stoke legend Denis Smith, but the game has moved on, and there is less chance of Stoke winning a trophy than there was in Pej and Smithy's days- the money differential requires one of the big six to take their foot of the gas for any other team to win a trophy. Before Wigan, who was the last outsider to win a major trophy? Given that, most people require to see some entertainment for their money and if one of our players makes one of the opposition look stupid, then I am all for it.
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