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Post by gibby1409 on Feb 3, 2017 19:25:46 GMT
Best left back I've seen at Stoke. Could play and could mix it, top top player. Have met him and he's a lovely man. Don't like his punditry though, even though radio Stoke is absolutely dire with footie coverage anyway, but he comes over as a dinosaur, summed up really well by that bollocks statement about who he would have subbed and what he would have done against manure! That, Pej is why you're a pundit and not a manager!
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 3, 2017 19:32:33 GMT
He's just an old fashioned football man.
Nothing different that you'd hear from those of his age in the stands.
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Post by meltonjohn on Feb 3, 2017 20:40:48 GMT
Pej would have a real adversity to showboating, as in his final game for England (see Slip's picture), Jimmy Johnstone sent him the wrong way so many times he did,nt know whether he was in England or Scotland. He's entitled to his opinion as is that other Stoke legend Denis Smith, but the game has moved on, and there is less chance of Stoke winning a trophy than there was in Pej and Smithy's days- the money differential requires one of the big six to take their foot of the gas for any other team to win a trophy. Before Wigan, who was the last outsider to win a major trophy? Given that, most people require to see some entertainment for their money and if one of our players makes one of the opposition look stupid, then I am all for it. Birmingham City
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Post by gibby1409 on Feb 3, 2017 20:50:07 GMT
Pej would have a real adversity to showboating, as in his final game for England (see Slip's picture), Jimmy Johnstone sent him the wrong way so many times he did,nt know whether he was in England or Scotland. He's entitled to his opinion as is that other Stoke legend Denis Smith, but the game has moved on, and there is less chance of Stoke winning a trophy than there was in Pej and Smithy's days- the money differential requires one of the big six to take their foot of the gas for any other team to win a trophy. Before Wigan, who was the last outsider to win a major trophy? Given that, most people require to see some entertainment for their money and if one of our players makes one of the opposition look stupid, then I am all for it. Birmingham City And also relegated in the same season, I think?
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 3, 2017 21:52:48 GMT
Pej is old school. He'd hit a winger early to let him know who was boss. Yes a different era but a great stalwart for Stoke and a very good left back
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 3, 2017 23:32:35 GMT
"I wouldn't have brought on Ibrahim Afellay and Julien Ngoy - and I certainly wouldn't have broken up our midfield by taking off Charlie Adam. I thought Adam, Joe Allen and Glenn Whelan were hugely competitive and offering Stoke great defensive protection in the middle of the park. So what I would have done is bring on Phil Bardsley at right back, so I could then push Glen Johnson further upfield, and bring on Marc Muniesa on the left to operate in front of Erik Pieters." Give me strength. Is that really so outrageous? He's saying we're one up and should make it solid to see out the result. Keep the three central midfield players tight and bring on Muniesa for Arnie and Bards for Shaq pushing Johnson ahead of Bards and sealing the wide areas. The equaliser came because Allen was pulled from a central position trying to cover Johnson at full back and gave a cheap free kick.
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Post by MooG on Feb 4, 2017 0:25:51 GMT
Numpty, that's a reasonable idea - it's a bit over defensive for my tastes (and I don't trust us to invite that much pressure and absorb it) but, as you say, it's not outrageous.
Where he lost me was the next line where he claims that this team of six defenders, three defensive midfielders and Peter Crouch was going to provide a counter attacking threat to Everton; or indead to anything more mobile than an apple orchard.
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2017 0:52:05 GMT
Best left back I've seen play for Stoke.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 4, 2017 8:20:39 GMT
Numpty, that's a reasonable idea - it's a bit over defensive for my tastes (and I don't trust us to invite that much pressure and absorb it) but, as you say, it's not outrageous. Where he lost me was the next line where he claims that this team of six defenders, three defensive midfielders and Peter Crouch was going to provide a counter attacking threat to Everton; or indead to anything more mobile than an apple orchard. Not saying I agree with him moog but what he's saying makes sense to me.
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Post by gibby1409 on Feb 4, 2017 8:44:13 GMT
"I wouldn't have brought on Ibrahim Afellay and Julien Ngoy - and I certainly wouldn't have broken up our midfield by taking off Charlie Adam. I thought Adam, Joe Allen and Glenn Whelan were hugely competitive and offering Stoke great defensive protection in the middle of the park. So what I would have done is bring on Phil Bardsley at right back, so I could then push Glen Johnson further upfield, and bring on Marc Muniesa on the left to operate in front of Erik Pieters." Give me strength. Is that really so outrageous? He's saying we're one up and should make it solid to see out the result. Keep the three central midfield players tight and bring on Muniesa for Arnie and Bards for Shaq pushing Johnson ahead of Bards and sealing the wide areas. The equaliser came because Allen was pulled from a central position trying to cover Johnson at full back and gave a cheap free kick. It isn't really outrageous, and its prob something that TP would have done to hold on. But what it is, is a really easy thing to say with the benefit of hindsight, any of us could have said something similar, and that it would have made us solid. What would he have said if Rooney put the free kick on the D road? I've always admired MP, but he's doing himself no favours with his punditry, because he's coming-out with some right cliche filled bollocks. Imo of course
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