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Post by chrisparker on Dec 14, 2016 22:26:36 GMT
It was as obvious a red card as you're going to see. High foot, dangerous challenge, clear contact (even if it's minimal). Ref got it right. Absolutely love Arnie to bits but hopefully this incident will prompt a little bit of soul-searching resulting in the return of the goal hungry beast we all remember from last season. We have decent cover in Ramadan. This is the time for the lad to shine.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 14, 2016 22:26:57 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me !
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Dec 14, 2016 22:30:17 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! Surely the referee's job is to fairly apply the rules of the game..? Doesn't say anything in them about having to have 11 players each at the end...
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Post by no1972 on Dec 14, 2016 22:31:39 GMT
we can appeal against a red Appeal it and he plays satdee surely Appeal then get 4 matches.
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Post by no1972 on Dec 14, 2016 22:32:43 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! It's the player duty not to tackle around the knee with your studs.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Dec 14, 2016 22:34:41 GMT
His punishment may well be Ramadan. That was earlier in the year.
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 14, 2016 22:36:55 GMT
If the ref had booked prowse for diving it would never have happened that is the bigger issue
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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 14, 2016 22:38:39 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! Surely the referee's job is to fairly apply the rules of the game..? Doesn't say anything in them about having to have 11 players each at the end... True , but his job is also not to spoil a football game unnecessarily , it was clumsy and petulant but not reckless, it's up to the ref to interpret to laws of the game as he sees fit , a yellow and a word would suffice ! (I've never been a big fan of giving reds for the sake of it, unless of course it's unavoidable)
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 14, 2016 22:41:54 GMT
Its a red can we all just accept it?
If we appeal for that then god help us.
Its not the filthiest red card you will ever see, but studs up against someones knee and a mile away from the ball = ITS A RED
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Post by no1972 on Dec 14, 2016 22:43:00 GMT
If the ref had booked prowse for diving it would never have happened that is the bigger issue If MH had not picked him he would not of been sent off,if we had cleared the ball he would not of been sent off,if the RAF didn't win the Battle of Britain on the 15/9/1940 we may be speaking German.Arnie made a bad tackle end of.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 14, 2016 22:43:03 GMT
Its a red can we all just accept it? If we appeal for that then god help us. Its not the filthiest red card you will ever see, but studs up against someones knee and a mile away from the ball = ITS A RED No sorry
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 23:01:36 GMT
Its a red can we all just accept it? If we appeal for that then god help us. Its not the filthiest red card you will ever see, but studs up against someones knee and a mile away from the ball = ITS A RED No sorry Yep, no I cant. Similar to the tackle on Joe Allen at Man Utd that did not even get a yellow. High, yes - but that's where the ball was Bit late, yes Malicious, no Dangerous, no No real protesting from Southampton, nor would they if he'd got a yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 23:03:15 GMT
Do some folk actually believe he got sent off intentionally to have xmas off?? Seriously I give up with some on here
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Post by mattface on Dec 14, 2016 23:05:36 GMT
Appeal it and he plays satdee surely Appeal then get 4 Maybe so he misses Liverpool Chelsea wolves and Sunderland surely the risk is worth 3 points on satdee
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 0:21:38 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! The referees job is to uphold the laws of the game. It was a sending off all day (night) long. Very sad I know, but it is what it is. The Christmas Markets in Vienna are fantastic at this time of year. Not to be missed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 1:43:24 GMT
Do some folk actually believe he got sent off intentionally to have xmas off?? Seriously I give up with some on here I don't think they believe it, but they dislike him so much that they want to plant a seed in gullible people's minds that he might just have done this deliberately. The people who hated Arnie from the start have had to eat so much shit as he turned into our best and most effective player, that they couldn't wait to jump on him and twist the knife the first time he did something which they could use to their advantage. Thankfully, the people pedalling this shit are just making themselves look like utter turds.
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Post by desman2 on Dec 15, 2016 2:35:36 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! The referees job is to uphold the laws of the game. It was a sending off all day (night) long. Very sad I know, but it is what it is. The Christmas Markets in Vienna are fantastic at this time of year. Not to be missed. I agree but he failed to uphold it on two other occasions and thats what gets peoples backs up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 2:37:32 GMT
His punishment may well be Ramadan. Fast?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 2:38:39 GMT
Do some folk actually believe he got sent off intentionally to have xmas off?? Seriously I give up with some on hereProper muppets.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Dec 15, 2016 4:54:40 GMT
It's a red, reminded me of Herrera on Allen at Old Trafford, Arnie looked wound up by the JWP dive/appeal for the penalty, and he lost it for half a second unfortunately. It happens sometimes.
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Post by 1863 on Dec 15, 2016 6:38:06 GMT
Christmas, Ramadan, Easter, oh can't somebody tell me, when will it all end?
Edit..
Sunday 21st May, away to Southampton, now ain't that a coincidence?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2016 7:37:26 GMT
Out until the 3rd of Jan. Christmas and New Year off. Coincidence? IMO he needs a month unpaid It stinks, I can see there being a rut of players intentionally doing this, hopefully that's it for us, but between now and this weekends games others will knowingly be fully aware of there actions. Totally unacceptable by Marko. Perhaps you'd like to expand on your stupid theory to explain how, if the object was to have Christmas off. he got himself a red card in the 23rd minute? Why not wait until later in the game and give us the chance to get a goal or two to the good before getting himself sent off? Perhaps you'll also reply to the points made above about suspended players still having to do the full training program during their suspension and also be expected to attend (as a spectator) the games they miss through suspension. If it was deliberate, it doesn't seem like much of a brilliant idea to me because he doesn't actually seem to have gained anything by it. But I'm all ears to hear your comments explaining what I am obviously missing.
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Post by RichJonesy on Dec 15, 2016 7:53:20 GMT
Did he bollocks do it for Christmas off. Probably was a red though now I've watched it 748 times. BUT what I think everyone wants and Hughes should be highlighting this to the FA is parity.
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Post by trigger on Dec 15, 2016 7:57:59 GMT
Absolute bell end.
You can count on one hand how many good/average games he's had this season, and I'm not counting my thumb.
It was an easy decision for the bald wanker Taylor to make but in saying that Rojo of Man Utd with a far worse tackle getting a yellow on Allen hmmm the whole system is corrupt week in week out.
Back to Arnie now, him and Shaqiri are far to inconsistent and don't really influence games as you'd expect. On a vast majority of games they simply make up the numbers and yes, it's like having ten players on the pitch, could say 9 1/2.
I would have taken a point on the 23rd minute all day long but in truth we were awful prior to the sending off, starting eleven with Walters, Whelan we can't be asking for more and with five in midfield they had an absolute field day in midfield, it was awful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 8:00:26 GMT
It was a stupid moment and an easy red to give. Foot high into the knee is a red all day. He clearly reacted because we should have won the thrown-in and he acted a bit silly. Vicious no, but very hair-brained and he will surely be apologising to his team mates in the morning That's how I saw it too He obviously thought he was guilty as he immediately hacked on the player
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 15, 2016 8:03:39 GMT
To be honest I don't think its the sending off that's the issue (for me I thought it was a yellow) it's the inconsistency of the decisions and the fact that if Arnie played for Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea or was Ibra, Rooney or one of the "big names" he wouldn't have been sent off which was proved by the Rojo tackle V Palace yesterday which for me was far worse. Of course the reaction of the Southampton player didn't help.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 15, 2016 8:04:15 GMT
The refs job is to keep players on the pitch , he really doesn't have to send him off for that , a yellow for me ! Where's it say that in the Laws of the Game? It's their job to enforce the laws of game and keep the play flowing ("play should be continuous"). It may have been intentional but his foot was high, over the ball with studs showing. Not much contact but enough for a red for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 8:05:09 GMT
Manure players go in with 2 feet and dont get sent off
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 8:10:21 GMT
Did he bollocks do it for Christmas off. Probably was a red though now I've watched it 748 times. BUT what I think everyone wants and Hughes should be highlighting this to the FA is parity. This is the real issue here. Another thing last night. Why wasn't Bertrand booked for dissent for slamming the ball into the ground and towards an official? Ditto Ward Prowse for shooting his mouth off way before he ended up getting one in the 90th minute? How many have we had booked for it? Why didn't the linesman spot the elbow on Bruno? The very same linesman that got Arnie sent off? Decisions like the red last night can go for or against you. Sheer incompetence and borderline corruption amongst officials will continue. They need bringing to task rather than being patted on the back and awarded the next big game. Wasn't Taylor wrapped up in the recent Citeh v Chelsea brawl and missed several assaults that the FA also glossed over post match?
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Post by elystokie on Dec 15, 2016 8:15:43 GMT
Did he bollocks do it for Christmas off. Probably was a red though now I've watched it 748 times. BUT what I think everyone wants and Hughes should be highlighting this to the FA is parity. I was going to post that if Arnies incident happens with a player from the home side at any of the 'big six' grounds there's no way it would be a red. That video proves it beyond any doubt. Edit - and that challenge is far, far worse than Arnies, the open, blatant bias shown stinks to high heaven and does our game no favours whatsoever.
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