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Post by numpty40 on Nov 19, 2016 19:08:33 GMT
I've long been of the opinion that his run of good form pre injury was a blip and that the shit before and after it is the norm. He was absolutely pathetic today and that is ignoring the fact that he missed a penalty he should never have taken in the first place Despite the fact he had scored 2 out of 2 already this season? Interesting theory.
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Nov 19, 2016 19:18:03 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 19, 2016 19:18:03 GMT
I've long been of the opinion that his run of good form pre injury was a blip and that the shit before and after it is the norm. He was absolutely pathetic today and that is ignoring the fact that he missed a penalty he should never have taken in the first place Despite the fact he had scored 2 out of 2 already this season? Interesting theory. He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion.
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Nov 19, 2016 19:20:10 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 19, 2016 19:20:10 GMT
Despite the fact he had scored 2 out of 2 already this season? Interesting theory. He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion. Who did he take the ball off Dave? I thought Adam and Shaqiri were going to come to blows over that free kick in the 1st half
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Nov 19, 2016 19:24:35 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 19, 2016 19:24:35 GMT
He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion. Who did he take the ball off Dave? I thought Adam and Shaqiri were going to come to blows over that free kick in the 1st half Took it out of Adams hand and Arnie wasn't best pleased either. We had the free kick incident you mention then bony, Arnie, Adam, Shaq and bojan all arguing over who was taking the penalty
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Nov 19, 2016 19:27:19 GMT
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Post by WhyDelilah on Nov 19, 2016 19:27:19 GMT
Shit penalty.
Pathetic performance.
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Post by mattface on Nov 19, 2016 19:34:25 GMT
Wow the realms of over reaction reach new levels. Bad performance definitely but get rid have a word with yourselves. If we binned off every good player who had a bad game we would be very short of players.
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Nov 19, 2016 19:44:12 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 19, 2016 19:44:12 GMT
He's had too many of late. He's started 4 games all season and come on as sub in the last 15 - 20 minutes in 4 games, hardly too many is it? Oh and he's scored 3 goals in these fleeting appearances. He was pretty poor today but so was everyone else, Didn't play well in any of them.
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Post by Banana Man on Nov 19, 2016 19:46:35 GMT
Players have bad games - bojan had a bad game but so did the rest of the squad! To use him as a scapegoat for a shit performance is a little odd! Shaq was bad, arnie was bad Allen wasn't great Adam was terrible so why single out one player? If you want to look at the problem then look at the manager! At 1-0 down what should you do? Try and inject youth and pace into the team or bring on a couple of players that worked well in the past but don't offer a lot this season? The problem is Hughes doesn't know what subs to make - maybe bojan should have been taken off but the criticism is bullshit in my opinion, the problem lies with the changes made and the team as whole that didn't give a fuck!
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Nov 19, 2016 19:50:11 GMT
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 19, 2016 19:50:11 GMT
He should be in for some disciplinary action now. We don't cheat like that at Stoke, and it needs stamping out. How can I moan about the referee and Bournemouth's antics when one of our players does something like that? It was utterly, utterly embarrassing. I was actually glad that he missed it, I'd rather lose than score like that. Should we exclude him from the first team squad for three weeks? Fine him a month's wages? Force him to spend a week with Mackey? Did he cheat because they were? Clear pen. Defender trod on him
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Nov 19, 2016 20:01:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:01:05 GMT
When he's good he's amazing, when he's shit he's shocking. He had all the players around him today to help us get the bojan back we all love, instead we got a player who seems lost. I don't know what is wrong with him, it must be a mental problem because he is so talented. I would give him 3 games to turn his career around and if he is poor i would free up a space in the squad.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 19, 2016 20:02:31 GMT
From where I was looked to me like the despicable Cherries were crowding the penalty spot but Bony stood on it to take the ground. Not sure whether Bony wanted it but it looked like Adam stepped in to let Bojan have it~as he'd 'won' it.
He fuckin smashed it that's for sure. A real gutter, pretty sure that would have shifted the dynamic of the game. Their pathetic play acting would have come undone and such.
One of them games (cliche as it is) where even if we'd played the full minutes, we didb't look like we'd have scored. Lot's of tricky shit we attempted today just didn't come off, poor first touches, decisions etc.
Most of our shots had the fizz taken out of them before they reached the keeper, a testament to the decent aspects of Bournemouth's game: Pressing and having extra men in midfield and those dinked balls to find out our high line and fullbacks. Good job they didn't have Defoe or an Arnie or someone a bit more effective to latch on to them balls over the top. They were impressive.
They were cynical and killed the flow. They sucked us in and we weren't on it to break through.
Upwards and onwards.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:06:58 GMT
Post by armitagestokie on Nov 19, 2016 20:06:58 GMT
Hughes has not got a eye for finding the players suited to the staff he inherited.....hope it doesn't end up as a QPR failure.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:09:50 GMT
Post by Scrotnig on Nov 19, 2016 20:09:50 GMT
Hughes has not got a eye for finding the players suited to the staff he inherited.....hope it doesn't end up as a QPR failure. I did fear a QPR scenario but the recent unbeaten run took me away from that thinking. Today is of great concern again though. If it's a one off bad day then fine but it's not that far on from our terrible start and I fear that this season is now nothing more than 'will we get 40 points?' and frankly I'm not convinced that we will.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 19, 2016 20:11:13 GMT
I'm with Dave his record suggests he had purple spells but hasn't settled anywhere because he isn't good enough . He has to be left out now for a prolonged spell .
Who did he take the ball off saw a little wrestle with Adam but thought that was a good luck cuddle but agree no way should he have taken it didn't see much consolation from the others either too much facebook not enough on the grassBony Shaq Adam , Allen would all be infront of him as takers given his lack of game time m and today he cost us a points let's hope it's not more than that come may
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Nov 19, 2016 20:12:52 GMT
Post by brinsleymaclagan on Nov 19, 2016 20:12:52 GMT
Despite the fact he had scored 2 out of 2 already this season? Interesting theory. He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion. Funny how hindsight is always correct!
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Nov 19, 2016 20:15:48 GMT
Post by brinsleymaclagan on Nov 19, 2016 20:15:48 GMT
Hughes has not got a eye for finding the players suited to the staff he inherited.....hope it doesn't end up as a QPR failure. I did fear a QPR scenario but the recent unbeaten run took me away from that thinking. Today is of great concern again though. If it's a one off bad day then fine but it's not that far on from our terrible start and I fear that this season is now nothing more than 'will we get 40 points?' and frankly I'm not convinced that we will. Are we going to bring up fucking QPR EVERY time we lose?? Grow up ffs!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 19, 2016 20:18:22 GMT
He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion. Funny how hindsight is always correct! It isn't hindsight at all. I said it at the time and I said that despite my view, I never for one minute thought he'd miss.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:19:49 GMT
Post by brinsleymaclagan on Nov 19, 2016 20:19:49 GMT
From where I was looked to me like the despicable Cherries were crowding the penalty spot but Bony stood on it to take the ground. Not sure whether Bony wanted it but it looked like Adam stepped in to let Bojan have it~as he'd 'won' it. He fuckin smashed it that's for sure. A real gutter, pretty sure that would have shifted the dynamic of the game. Their pathetic play acting would have come undone and such. One of them games (cliche as it is) where even if we'd played the full minutes, we didb't look like we'd have scored. Lot's of tricky shit we attempted today just didn't come off, poor first touches, decisions etc. Most of our shots had the fizz taken out of them before they reached the keeper, a testament to the decent aspects of Bournemouth's game: Pressing and having extra men in midfield and those dinked balls to find out our high line and fullbacks. Good job they didn't have Defoe or an Arnie or someone a bit more effective to latch on to them balls over the top. They were impressive. They were cynical and killed the flow. They sucked us in and we weren't on it to break through. Upwards and onwards. "They were cynical and killed the flow" "they were impressive" If being cynical and killing the flow of the game is considered impressive, I must be watching the wrong sport!
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Nov 19, 2016 20:20:01 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 19, 2016 20:20:01 GMT
Bojan is quality even the world class players have a bad game , it's football it happens He's played well for six weeks. The rest of the time he's been mediocre. He was far too deep today and was very poor. To be fair he wasn't the only one. My Mrs said I was far to deep last night in my forward attacking role , are we on about the same thing
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Nov 19, 2016 20:20:33 GMT
Post by Scrotnig on Nov 19, 2016 20:20:33 GMT
I did fear a QPR scenario but the recent unbeaten run took me away from that thinking. Today is of great concern again though. If it's a one off bad day then fine but it's not that far on from our terrible start and I fear that this season is now nothing more than 'will we get 40 points?' and frankly I'm not convinced that we will. Are we going to bring up fucking QPR EVERY time we lose?? Grow up ffs! Um, I didn't bring it up....armitagestokie did. I responded to it.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:20:51 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 19, 2016 20:20:51 GMT
He isn't a regular starter. He wasn't playing well. He took the ball off another player who clearly expected to be taking it and put pressure on himself as a result. I didn't for one minute expect him to miss but he shouldn't have been on penalty duty. It's not a theory, its an opinion. Funny how hindsight is always correct!
It's not really hindsight is it?
If you'd polled a thousand Stokies in the ground before the penalty was taken, very few would have chosen Bojan to take it, for all the reasons Dave has said.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:25:21 GMT
Post by stokiesteve on Nov 19, 2016 20:25:21 GMT
Just needs games, poor game today, but knowing Bojan he will win us the game at Watford Based on what? I can't remember him winning any games for us to be honest
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Nov 19, 2016 20:27:49 GMT
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Post by Banana Man on Nov 19, 2016 20:27:49 GMT
I'm with Dave his record suggests he had purple spells but hasn't settled anywhere because he isn't good enough . He has to be left out now for a prolonged spell . Who did he take the ball off saw a little wrestle with Adam but thought that was a good luck cuddle but agree no way should he have taken it didn't see much consolation from the others either too much facebook not enough on the grassBony Shaq Adam , Allen would all be infront of him as takers given his lack of game time m and today he cost us a points let's hope it's not more than that come may Again, bullshit! He's had a bad game and so did the rest of the team - to suggest that he isn't good enough because he wasn't a regular at barca, Milan and Roma is mind blowing - maybe he is a player that is a little low on confidence and needs players around him that are playing well - he's not a joe Allen type player that will run around in a bad team he's a good player that has done good things for the club and hopefully will do in the future
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Nov 19, 2016 20:31:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:31:14 GMT
I thought he did okay, he just turned to absolute wank after the penalty, his head seemed to go completely. with allen out vs watford id start him in front of whelan and cameron (fingers crossed).
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Nov 19, 2016 20:34:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:34:10 GMT
There were numerous poor displays today and to single Bojan out and to call him wank is pathetic.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:40:41 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 19, 2016 20:40:41 GMT
There were numerous poor displays today and to single Bojan out and to call him wank is pathetic. I'll tell you why he's getting the treatment (imo) 1) his "performance" compared to Allen in that position was pathetic 2) a lot of Stoke fans were calling for Bojan to come into the team whilst in the process pushing Allen back into a deeper position. Today has shown that way of thinking is completely wrong. Hopefully Hughes doesn't make the mistake again.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:46:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:46:20 GMT
There were numerous poor displays today and to single Bojan out and to call him wank is pathetic. I'll tell you why he's getting the treatment (imo) 1) his "performance" compared to Allen in that position was pathetic 2) a lot of Stoke fans were calling for Bojan to come into the team whilst in the process pushing Allen back into a deeper position. Today has shown that way of thinking is completely wrong. Hopefully Hughes doesn't make the mistake again. Valid point but there is no need to abuse him as some have done is he not allowed a bad day without being declared as completely wank. In no way is Bojan wank he's a top class player and I'm glad he's ours.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 19, 2016 20:46:45 GMT
I did fear a QPR scenario but the recent unbeaten run took me away from that thinking. Today is of great concern again though. If it's a one off bad day then fine but it's not that far on from our terrible start and I fear that this season is now nothing more than 'will we get 40 points?' and frankly I'm not convinced that we will. Are we going to bring up fucking QPR EVERY time we lose?? Grow up ffs! There's some absolute knob heads on here. Hughes - qpr, bojan is wank? FFS go have a wank the lot of you.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:47:08 GMT
Post by oslostokie1 on Nov 19, 2016 20:47:08 GMT
First of all, an idiotic thread title from the guy who told us that Shaq had done his cruciate earlier this week.
Regarding Bojan, I feel that his purple spell in his first season was very fleeting indeed and his performances before and since are more reflective of the impact he will make in the Prem. He has lots of ability but is massively lacking in any kind of physical presence including both strength and speed. He reminds me of a really talented boy playing in a man's game and being easily overpowered. In La Liga, the pace is more to his liking whereas in the Prem the game just passes him by.
I think he can be a very useful sub and a good alternative in a certain type of game but I don't see him as a regular going forward.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:53:22 GMT
Post by Gods on Nov 19, 2016 20:53:22 GMT
From where I was looked to me like the despicable Cherries were crowding the penalty spot but Bony stood on it to take the ground. Not sure whether Bony wanted it but it looked like Adam stepped in to let Bojan have it~as he'd 'won' it. He fuckin smashed it that's for sure. A real gutter, pretty sure that would have shifted the dynamic of the game. Their pathetic play acting would have come undone and such. One of them games (cliche as it is) where even if we'd played the full minutes, we didb't look like we'd have scored. Lot's of tricky shit we attempted today just didn't come off, poor first touches, decisions etc. Most of our shots had the fizz taken out of them before they reached the keeper, a testament to the decent aspects of Bournemouth's game: Pressing and having extra men in midfield and those dinked balls to find out our high line and fullbacks. Good job they didn't have Defoe or an Arnie or someone a bit more effective to latch on to them balls over the top. They were impressive. They were cynical and killed the flow. They sucked us in and we weren't on it to break through. Upwards and onwards. Some sharp observations and good analysis, I agree with every word of that
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