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Post by clarkeda on Oct 31, 2016 23:05:33 GMT
Thought he was shit personally. Apart from a couple of shots and a couple long balls, thought we really missed Cameron's athleticism in the midfield today. They were allowed FAR to much time on the ball. Shit? Really? Shit maybe abit harsh, really didn't think he was all that effective in my opinion. We can't afford to carry him, and his lack of mobility, but he was our best option for Cameron. Shame afellay isn't fit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 23:06:26 GMT
Shit maybe abit harsh, really didn't think he was all that effective in my opinion. We can't afford to carry him, and his lack of mobility, but he was our best option for Cameron. Shame afellay isn't fit. On another day he could have walked away with the match ball.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2016 23:07:34 GMT
Off the ball the midfield were poor. He did get into good areas but should he have scored? And then his stupidness with stuff like the free kick on our left which he just belts to the right to their winger just make me mad. On the whole I thought we gave them too much time space when we were off the ball but when we attacked we were bloody good. We agree 😱 I wanted to say I thought he was shit but thought I'd go with a more balanced appraisal given the plaudits. But yeah I thought he was shit, he should have buried one of the chances and off the ball he was atrocious. Glad we agree!
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 31, 2016 23:07:47 GMT
Shit maybe abit harsh, really didn't think he was all that effective in my opinion. We can't afford to carry him, and his lack of mobility, but he was our best option for Cameron. Shame afellay isn't fit. On another day he could have walked away with the match ball. I agree, but sometimes his good doesn't outweigh his bad, found he was pretty sloppy at times tonight, very wasteful but like you say, another day he could have had a hat trick.
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Post by The Red and White Baron on Oct 31, 2016 23:08:27 GMT
It's Adam's career with Stoke in a nutshell- lethal going forward, suspect defensively. He played well for the most part and was really unlucky not to have scored at least one belter, but I would still start with Cameron next game if he's fit.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 31, 2016 23:09:02 GMT
I wanted to say I thought he was shit but thought I'd go with a more balanced appraisal given the plaudits. But yeah I thought he was shit, he should have buried one of the chances and off the ball he was atrocious. Glad we agree! Asking him to do more on the shots is abit mental, he's one of about 3 players capable of getting it on target. Off the ball was disgusting, Ki had the freedom of the city at times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2016 23:11:23 GMT
I wanted to say I thought he was shit but thought I'd go with a more balanced appraisal given the plaudits. But yeah I thought he was shit, he should have buried one of the chances and off the ball he was atrocious. Glad we agree! Asking him to do more on the shots is abit mental, he's one of about 3 players capable of getting it on target. Off the ball was disgusting, Ki had the freedom of the city at times. I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 31, 2016 23:13:14 GMT
Asking him to do more on the shots is abit mental, he's one of about 3 players capable of getting it on target. Off the ball was disgusting, Ki had the freedom of the city at times. I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here. I'm not sure I'd have Ki, similar to adam, Cameron & afellay (to an Extent) allen and imbula. Good Box 2 Box, not the destroyer we need.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 23:14:36 GMT
Asking him to do more on the shots is abit mental, he's one of about 3 players capable of getting it on target. Off the ball was disgusting, Ki had the freedom of the city at times. I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here. Good player when he has oceans of space. Once Whelan stuck one on him he faded and was subbed soon after. Lacks heart.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 31, 2016 23:17:00 GMT
I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here. I'm not sure I'd have Ki, similar to adam, Cameron & afellay (to an Extent) allen and imbula. Good Box 2 Box, not the destroyer we need. I'd want him alongside the destroyer we need.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 31, 2016 23:18:41 GMT
I'm not sure I'd have Ki, similar to adam, Cameron & afellay (to an Extent) allen and imbula. Good Box 2 Box, not the destroyer we need. I'd want him alongside the destroyer we need. I'd prefer allen there with bojan in the whole TBH. Allen is twice the player Ki is
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 23:20:47 GMT
The game was perfect for Adam. Absolutely perfect. Horses for courses and he's our biggest attacking threat when teams come and keep it tight and sit back. That said if Geoff is fit I'm afraid he would be back on the bench against West Ham, but a couple of moments of stupidity aside he was excellent tonight.....
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Post by lagwafis on Oct 31, 2016 23:21:25 GMT
It's a catch 22. If Cameron played tonight I doubt Swansea would have had as much time around the box. On the other hand few players (and certainly not Cameron or Whelan) would have had the vision to play Sobhi in like that for the second goal - it was as good a pass as you'll see and it turned the game.
I agree about Ki, he looked very composed playing from deep and carried the ball out well. When they did look like doing something it seemed to go through him. You wonder if Hughes might want to go back in for him further down the line (if the rumours were true)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 23:23:54 GMT
It's a catch 22. If Cameron played tonight I doubt Swansea would have had as much time around the box. On the other hand few players (and certainly not Cameron or Whelan) would have had the vision to play Sobhi in like that for the second goal - it was as good a pass as you'll see and it turned the game. I agree about Ki, he looked very composed playing from deep and carried the ball out well. When they did look like doing something it seemed to go through him. You wonder if Hughes might want to go back in for him further down the line (if the rumours were true) Ki was neat and tidy in possession but never ever threatened or hurt us. Absolutely not needed as far as I'm concerned....
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Post by newburystokie on Oct 31, 2016 23:30:06 GMT
It's a catch 22. If Cameron played tonight I doubt Swansea would have had as much time around the box. On the other hand few players (and certainly not Cameron or Whelan) would have had the vision to play Sobhi in like that for the second goal - it was as good a pass as you'll see and it turned the game. I agree about Ki, he looked very composed playing from deep and carried the ball out well. When they did look like doing something it seemed to go through him. You wonder if Hughes might want to go back in for him further down the line (if the rumours were true) It was Whelan who slid in Sobhi for the second 😂
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 31, 2016 23:33:40 GMT
he did what he does well, some of his long passing was superb , not athletic enough as we know but fitness held up well , always gives good options
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Post by lagwafis on Oct 31, 2016 23:35:53 GMT
It's a catch 22. If Cameron played tonight I doubt Swansea would have had as much time around the box. On the other hand few players (and certainly not Cameron or Whelan) would have had the vision to play Sobhi in like that for the second goal - it was as good a pass as you'll see and it turned the game. I agree about Ki, he looked very composed playing from deep and carried the ball out well. When they did look like doing something it seemed to go through him. You wonder if Hughes might want to go back in for him further down the line (if the rumours were true) It was Whlean who slid in Sobhi for the second 😂 Bloody hell, just played the highlights back and you're right (I'm getting the receding hairlines mixed up) Sorry Glenn, you're amazing at passing forward
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 31, 2016 23:36:14 GMT
Thought he was shit personally. Apart from a couple of shots and a couple long balls, thought we really missed Cameron's athleticism in the midfield today. They were allowed FAR to much time on the ball. Absolute fucking twaddle.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 31, 2016 23:36:45 GMT
Thought he was hit and miss today, going forward he did well with the odd iffy ball, but defensively he sat back and gave the opposition too much space, over all he had a decent game imo.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 31, 2016 23:38:25 GMT
I'd want him alongside the destroyer we need. I'd prefer allen there with bojan in the whole TBH. Allen is twice the player Ki is Allen playing there was one of the reasons for our poor start.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 31, 2016 23:41:26 GMT
I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here. Good player when he has oceans of space. Once Whelan stuck one on him he faded and was subbed soon after. Lacks heart. Which sums up Swansea as a whole. No where near enough aggression in their play to cause us any sustained problems. Thought Adam did OK, especially in the second half. By no means was he shit, which is frankly a joke.
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Post by bojanwonder on Oct 31, 2016 23:48:20 GMT
Thought he was shit personally. Apart from a couple of shots and a couple long balls, thought we really missed Cameron's athleticism in the midfield today. They were allowed FAR to much time on the ball. What game were you watching?!!!!
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Post by rawli on Oct 31, 2016 23:53:58 GMT
BBC got it spot on. Cameron is an athlete who can play football a bit, Adam is a footballer who can run a bit. Sent from my SM-G928F using proboards Pretty much spot on isn't it. Imagine them as one player ;O Knowing our luck we'd end up with a player with Charlie's athleticism and Geoff's footballing prowess.
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Post by shino on Nov 1, 2016 0:02:08 GMT
Pretty much spot on isn't it. Imagine them as one player ;O Knowing our luck we'd end up with a player with Charlie's athleticism and Geoff's footballing prowess. Wasn't that Paul Stewart?
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Post by RichJonesy on Nov 1, 2016 0:06:21 GMT
Knowing our luck we'd end up with a player with Charlie's athleticism and Geoff's footballing prowess. Wasn't that Paul Stewart? Nope...it's Joe Allen
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Post by miltonstokienew on Nov 1, 2016 0:07:50 GMT
Asking him to do more on the shots is abit mental, he's one of about 3 players capable of getting it on target. Off the ball was disgusting, Ki had the freedom of the city at times. I expected him to bury the first one tbh. But he's about the only player I would expect that from but because he so good at shooting. I would love Ki here. What a sad character ...pathetic
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Post by RichJonesy on Nov 1, 2016 0:09:00 GMT
Top performance from the Thunder bastard tonight. For me he's a better player than Whelan. It seems Adam will look to play the ball forwards first, if nothing's on he'll carry the ball and muscle through and if still nothing then sideways or backwards. Whereas Glenn will look first to play it backwards, if that isn't on sideways, then god forbid if that isn't on forward it goes. I sound harsh on Glenn but I do think his role is important. Just that Charlie pulls it off better.
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Post by shino on Nov 1, 2016 0:09:40 GMT
Wasn't that Paul Stewart? Nope...it's Joe Allen
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Post by oslostokie1 on Nov 1, 2016 0:10:29 GMT
Created the second goal. Well played tonight Charlie Think that was Whelan actually. Charlie did very well tonight though
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Post by eastyorksexile on Nov 1, 2016 0:36:55 GMT
I also thought Charlie had a good game tonight, who else shoots from outside of the box? He may not have the legs but makes up for that with his vision and passing accuracy and I for one don't mind his aggressive side, for me it shakes the opposition. However I think his opportunities will be limited in the future but he can be an impact sub who can always make something happen.
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