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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 23, 2016 19:08:55 GMT
Why the fuck did you open it? You tell me .....absolutely no idea I recommend you don't next time, it's probably not good for you. I found it quite interesting information however.
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 23, 2016 19:09:35 GMT
What on earth is all this crap about 'oh another N'Zonzi thread'?
As far as I can see, the OP was informing us of N'Zonzi's impressive performance and his growth in stature in Spain.
No slating of Zonz. No slating of Hughes. No slating of the management team.
What's the issue?
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 23, 2016 19:10:59 GMT
What the Hell is this not qouting of posts that relate to said point?
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 23, 2016 19:11:43 GMT
What on earth is all this crap about 'oh another N'Zonzi thread'? As far as I can see, the OP was informing us of N'Zonzi's impressive performance and his growth in stature in Spain. No slating of Zonz. No slating of Hughes. No slating of the management team. What's the issue? People have massuve fucking chips on their shoulders and need to get a serious fucking grip.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2016 19:11:48 GMT
Fuck it, we got Imbul...............oh for fucks sake. For two and a half times more money than we let Zonz leave for, we also had MVG on a reported £60k a week for a while..............until Hughes finally realised he was not very good.
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 23, 2016 19:25:08 GMT
What the Hell is this not qouting of posts that relate to said point? Referring to me?
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 23, 2016 19:26:18 GMT
Only player to have left stoke and stepped up a level and grown since leaving in last 15 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 19:27:49 GMT
What on earth is all this crap about 'oh another N'Zonzi thread'? As far as I can see, the OP was informing us of N'Zonzi's impressive performance and his growth in stature in Spain. No slating of Zonz. No slating of Hughes. No slating of the management team. What's the issue? You summed my intention up there chap Enjoyed him here, sad he's gone Just an update as to how one of old ones is getting on Only know how he's got on as on BBC and high profile Not my intent to start a bar fight 😇
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2016 19:29:20 GMT
Only player to have left stoke and stepped up a level and grown since leaving in last 15 years. One of the best signings we have made in the modern era.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 23, 2016 19:30:01 GMT
Some precious souls on here
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 23, 2016 19:30:31 GMT
What on earth is all this crap about 'oh another N'Zonzi thread'? As far as I can see, the OP was informing us of N'Zonzi's impressive performance and his growth in stature in Spain. No slating of Zonz. No slating of Hughes. No slating of the management team. What's the issue? You summed my intention up there chap Enjoyed him here, sad he's gone Just an update as to how one of old ones is getting on Only know how he's got on as on BBC and high profile Not my intent to start a bar fight 😇 Exactly. Your thread is fine mate. I imagine many on here don't follow the Spanish league too closely so it's good to keep them up to date with how Zonz is getting along.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 23, 2016 19:34:35 GMT
What the Hell is this not qouting of posts that relate to said point? Referring to me? Dunno? Was I? Without the quote how would we know?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 23, 2016 19:35:04 GMT
Glad for him only left for champion's league football and challenging for major honours every year, shows how much our club is coming on that top European clubs are looking at our players,people on here saying we should of let his contact run down he'll sign in the end but he wouldn't of done for that reason,so it was getting 8 million or nothing for him. Had we refused the offer and held him to his contract we wouldn't have spent £18M on Imbula who may or may not make the grade eventually but right now we'd be very lucky to recoup £10M on so your point is moot. I don't see how anyone could know what would have happened after the window had closed, stranger things have happened than him perhaps deciding to extend his deal, its all brinksmanship players that swear they won't sign suddenly do when the window's no longer open. In hindsight we blinked too soon. As you say there are nuances and complications in these deals, but that's also true in life. I believe it was as much about N'Zonzi's domestic stuff. We sold him at a point where he was going through the Criminal Court. It fizzled out, but perhaps it did so because he got out of town. As much as his father/agent agitated for moves I heard too that his missus wasn't too happy in leafy Cheshire, new baby etc. Even for a WAG I can imagine it could be quite isolating, even in miserable luxury. I can believe that as part of the narrative. As with any young man if your home life is harmonious it's easier to focus on your job. We've struggled to replace the N'Zonz, but to have kept hold of him could have been destructive to him, press attention etc. Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprized if there wasn't some thought at the Club regarding 'bad' publicity too. They shipped Jerome out pretty swiftly after his gambling indiscretions. Who knows, loads of factors to chuck into the mixer that leads to life decisions. I prefer to view his time with us as an integral part of our evolution, and his. Positive, rather than picking apart his exit. He joined us at a time when we'd lost our major weapons, Fuller, Delap, the wings. Massive player in allowing us to change how we played and maintain our place in the Premiership. Joined at a time when we scraped draws at Reading, left beating Liverpool 6-1. And we doubled our money on him. He left on high in pure footballing terms. Time was rayt for Steven, football Clubs have to adapt, part of the appeal of the game, seeing how a manager manages such changes.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 23, 2016 19:36:43 GMT
Who gives a f*ck about him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2016 19:37:42 GMT
Who gives a f*ck about him. Me
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2016 19:38:28 GMT
Had we refused the offer and held him to his contract we wouldn't have spent £18M on Imbula who may or may not make the grade eventually but right now we'd be very lucky to recoup £10M on so your point is moot. I don't see how anyone could know what would have happened after the window had closed, stranger things have happened than him perhaps deciding to extend his deal, its all brinksmanship players that swear they won't sign suddenly do when the window's no longer open. In hindsight we blinked too soon. As you say there are nuances and complications in these deals, but that's also true in life. I believe it was as much about N'Zonzi's domestic stuff. We sold him at a point where he was going through the Criminal Court. It fizzled out, but perhaps it did so because he got out of town. As much as his father/agent agitated for moves I heard too that his missus wasn't too happy in leafy Cheshire, new baby etc. Even for a WAG I can imagine it could be quite isolating, even in miserable luxury. I can believe that as part of the narrative. As with any young man if your home life is harmonious it's easier to focus on your job. We've struggled to replace the N'Zonz, but to have kept hold of him could have been destructive to him, press attention etc. Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprized if there wasn't some thought at the Club regarding 'bad' publicity too. They shipped Jerome out pretty swiftly after his gambling indiscretions. Who knows, loads of factors to chuck into the mixer that leads to life decisions. I prefer to view his time with us as an integral part of our evolution, and his. Positive, rather than picking apart his exit. He joined us at a time when we'd lost our major weapons, Fuller, Delap, the wings. Massive player in allowing us to change how we played and maintain our place in the Premiership. Joined at a time when we scraped draws at Reading, left beating Liverpool 6-1. And we doubled our money on him. He left on high in pure footballing terms. Time was rayt for Steven, football Clubs have to adapt, part of the appeal of the game, seeing how a manager manages such changes. And how do you rate how Hughes has managed this change cheesy ?
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 23, 2016 19:38:53 GMT
Dunno? Was I? Without the quote how would we know? Are you taking the piss? My post was aimed at anyone slating the OP for this thread. Not one particular person. Think most people would have realised that.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 23, 2016 19:42:53 GMT
Poor man's Joe Allen.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 23, 2016 19:48:11 GMT
Left for footballing reasons, who wouldn't have done the same?
Well in zonz keep going!
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 23, 2016 19:50:18 GMT
Left for less money than was offered here, he should fly in next french squad, above likes if pogba, sissoko, but deschamps is a cunt.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 23, 2016 19:52:21 GMT
As you say there are nuances and complications in these deals, but that's also true in life. I believe it was as much about N'Zonzi's domestic stuff. We sold him at a point where he was going through the Criminal Court. It fizzled out, but perhaps it did so because he got out of town. As much as his father/agent agitated for moves I heard too that his missus wasn't too happy in leafy Cheshire, new baby etc. Even for a WAG I can imagine it could be quite isolating, even in miserable luxury. I can believe that as part of the narrative. As with any young man if your home life is harmonious it's easier to focus on your job. We've struggled to replace the N'Zonz, but to have kept hold of him could have been destructive to him, press attention etc. Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprized if there wasn't some thought at the Club regarding 'bad' publicity too. They shipped Jerome out pretty swiftly after his gambling indiscretions. Who knows, loads of factors to chuck into the mixer that leads to life decisions. I prefer to view his time with us as an integral part of our evolution, and his. Positive, rather than picking apart his exit. He joined us at a time when we'd lost our major weapons, Fuller, Delap, the wings. Massive player in allowing us to change how we played and maintain our place in the Premiership. Joined at a time when we scraped draws at Reading, left beating Liverpool 6-1. And we doubled our money on him. He left on high in pure footballing terms. Time was rayt for Steven, football Clubs have to adapt, part of the appeal of the game, seeing how a manager manages such changes. And how do you rate how Hughes has managed this change cheesy ? Bumpy old ride mate with Van Ginkel not fulfilling his promise with us. Unlucky with Afellay getting crocked. etc. I rate Imbula and despite theories about Hughes not 'training' players there are plenty of examples of improvement in players. I'm backing them to unlock summat from Imbula. Allen's a revelation, and similarly at the moment Cameron's found {or helped to find?} a vein of form. Like any top class player, you won't always get the 'perfect' replacement/alternative straight off. I reckon we're a top half team pushing at the 'glass ceiling' of European spots, possibly amongst the toughest barriers to break in World football. Risky business, but a challenge I reckon Hughes is up to. Won't get it all right mate.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2016 19:53:53 GMT
Left for less money than was offered here, he should fly in next french squad, above likes if pogba, sissoko, but deschamps is a cunt. Was he still under contract with us when we sold him ?
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 23, 2016 21:42:45 GMT
Him leaving started our blip in my opinion. He was making the team tick and we suffered when he left
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 23, 2016 21:56:25 GMT
Dunno? Was I? Without the quote how would we know? Are you taking the piss? My post was aimed at anyone slating the OP for this thread. Not one particular person. Think most people would have realised that. No. 1 person said it.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 23, 2016 22:06:24 GMT
I'm happy for him. Left for the right reasons and is doing even better than I expected. This. The move has allowed him to develop and fair play to him for improving his game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 22:08:50 GMT
Fuck it, we got Imbul...............oh for fucks sake. Wind your negative whining neck in. There's a chance he'll come good.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 23, 2016 22:10:13 GMT
Fuck it, we got Imbul...............oh for fucks sake. Wind your negative whining neck in. There's a chance he'll come good. We also got Joe Allen ... Swings and round-a-bouts!
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Post by Gods on Oct 23, 2016 22:13:33 GMT
Him leaving started our blip in my opinion. He was making the team tick and we suffered when he left He was the beating heart of the Hughes revolution for sure but sadly he wanted away. I sometimes imagine how things could have been had he stayed, you can't really help doing that, still striding the midfield like a colossus and Sparky could have invested the £18 million we paid in vain for Imbula elsewhere. HoHum...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2016 22:13:54 GMT
Wind your negative whining neck in. There's a chance he'll come good. We also got Joe Allen ... Swings and round-a-bouts! So it's taken 31m and we still haven't actually replaced him effectively. Don't get your point.
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 23, 2016 22:15:12 GMT
Are you taking the piss? My post was aimed at anyone slating the OP for this thread. Not one particular person. Think most people would have realised that. No. 1 person said it. One person directly said it. A couple of others implied they agreed with Werrington. I thought you agreed too with your Huth comment. Love how you are always so pedantic.
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