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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 30, 2016 12:29:15 GMT
What role did he play then? I have always thought of him as a near carbon copy of Whelan. Intelligent footballer who keeps things simple and plugs the gaps others leave behind in the process. He isn't a goal scorer, I've never seen him as being particularly creative so if he isn't a Whelan upgrade at some point, you've got me wondering what the hell he actually is. 'you've got me wondering what the hell he actually is' That sums up my thoughts on Allen pretty much throughout his career! It's been mine too but he was there best player against us last season and he was excellent for wales so my opinion of him changed. I just put it down to Rodgers not knowing his arse from his elbow and making the player look a bit crap in the process. You and paulspencer have me worried now.
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Post by werrington on Jul 30, 2016 12:32:35 GMT
Here's a thought
Why does he have to be somebody else ?.....why can't he be just Joe Allen
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 30, 2016 12:34:08 GMT
Allen makes perfect sense in a pairing with Whelan to offer protection through the middle and out wide to cover for forward running fullbacks when attacks break down.
Hoping during the early games Hughes finds a way to play both.
Longer term who knows? Whelan's heir will have a fayt on his hands.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 12:34:24 GMT
'you've got me wondering what the hell he actually is' That sums up my thoughts on Allen pretty much throughout his career! It's been mine too but he was there best player against us last season and he was excellent for wales so my opinion of him changed. I just put it down to Rodgers not knowing his arse from his elbow and making the player look a bit crap in the process. You and paulspencer have me worried now. I wouldn't worry too much! π
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 12:36:38 GMT
Here's a thought Why does he have to be somebody else ?.....why can't he be just Joe Allen It's more the role in the team though Werrers and how that affects our defensive shape. I couldn't give a fuck who it it's long as that protection is there. I'm sceptical Allen can do that. Here's hoping he can because I think it's what he's been earmarked for.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 12:54:20 GMT
Makes me laugh when I keep reading can he play the Whelan role... What's the Whelan role? Last I checked his position is midfield. He's been a fantastic servant for us but let's face it Allen is a better player. He's more mobile, can get box to box, He can break up play, create and score goals. That's a midfielders role. Without slating Glen but when was the last time he made a surging run or defence splitting pass, or even bloody score.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 12:56:04 GMT
Makes me laugh when I keep reading can he play the Whelan role... What's the Whelan role? Last I checked his position is midfield. He's been a fantastic servant for us but let's face it Allen is a better player. He's more mobile, can get box to box, He can break up play, create and score goals. That's a midfielders role. Without slating Glen but when was the last time he made a surging run or defence splitting pass, or even bloody score. I don't want the person who plays doing that as long as they protect the defence tbh. If they can do both-ace. But it's not essential.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:05:42 GMT
Makes me laugh when I keep reading can he play the Whelan role... What's the Whelan role? Last I checked his position is midfield. He's been a fantastic servant for us but let's face it Allen is a better player. He's more mobile, can get box to box, He can break up play, create and score goals. That's a midfielders role. Without slating Glen but when was the last time he made a surging run or defence splitting pass, or even bloody score. I don't want the person who plays doing that as long as they protect the defence tbh. If they can do both-ace. But it's not essential. Just a question ...do you ever log off ? ..:
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:08:29 GMT
I don't want the person who plays doing that as long as they protect the defence tbh. If they can do both-ace. But it's not essential. Just a question ...do you ever log off ? ..: I'm omnipresent.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 30, 2016 13:10:30 GMT
Makes me laugh when I keep reading can he play the Whelan role... What's the Whelan role? Last I checked his position is midfield. He's been a fantastic servant for us but let's face it Allen is a better player. He's more mobile, can get box to box, He can break up play, create and score goals. That's a midfielders role. Without slating Glen but when was the last time he made a surging run or defence splitting pass, or even bloody score. That's the question though mate. He's not supposed to make surging runs - he's a holding midfielder. He's supposed to sit deep, stay disciplined and do the simple stuff and plug the gaps when the full backs go forward. He's a defensive shield. As Paul says, the question is will we ask Allen to do the same job, or will the role change into something a bit more Drinkwater/Kante with him and Imbula in there. Because he's been signed to replace Whelan, no question.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:12:43 GMT
Just a question ...do you ever log off ? ..: I'm omnipresent. Between wanking and slagging half the team off ? ... In between messages ...do you have a life ... ?? .. Don't answer with ' oh shock ...discussion football on a message board ' Just wondering ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:15:41 GMT
Between wanking and slagging half the team off ? ... In between messages ...do you have a life ... ?? .. Don't answer with ' oh shock ...discussion football on a message board ' Just wondering ? What the fuck has it got to do with you? ππ
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:18:00 GMT
Between wanking and slagging half the team off ? ... In between messages ...do you have a life ... ?? .. Don't answer with ' oh shock ...discussion football on a message board ' Just wondering ? What the fuck has it got to do with you? ππ just wondering ... Bit of a sad act though Arnt you ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:19:18 GMT
What the fuck has it got to do with you? ππ just wondering ... Bit of a sad act though Arnt you ? Haha do one ππ
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Post by UsAndThem on Jul 30, 2016 13:20:17 GMT
I wasn't really excited by the Allen signing and have given him a lot of shit in the past. I do however think he's more than capable of doing the DM role. He reads the game well, wins possession back and more importantly his distribution is far superior to Whelans. He might actually pass forward and has vision that extends more than ten yards. He'll be able to turn winning possession back in our own half into a quick counter. Not to criticise Whelan.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:23:13 GMT
just wondering ... Bit of a sad act though Arnt you ? Haha do one ππ If you open the curtains .. Log off .. There's a big wide world out there .. Try it π
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Post by adamsson on Jul 30, 2016 13:23:19 GMT
You don't spend Β£31,000,000 on two central midfielder and not play them in central midfield.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:24:48 GMT
If you open the curtains .. Log off .. There's a big wide world out there .. Try it π I'm ok ta!
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:29:03 GMT
If you open the curtains .. Log off .. There's a big wide world out there .. Try it π I'm ok ta! Your not really though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:30:11 GMT
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Post by agingerstokie on Jul 30, 2016 13:33:25 GMT
just wondering ... Bit of a sad act though Arnt you ? Haha do one ππ Haha this guy is a joker. Personal attacks on a forum, and you're the sad act....
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:35:47 GMT
Keep up the post count. π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 13:36:50 GMT
You don't spend Β£31,000,000 on two central midfielder and not play them in central midfield. I think that's the challenge now. Hughes has brought them in, he needs to make it work.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:37:16 GMT
Keep up the post count. π I wouldn't need to if you wound your neck in and went back to the hole you crawled out of.....
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 30, 2016 13:45:26 GMT
Keep up the post count. π I wouldn't need to if you wound your neck in and went back to the hole you crawled out of..... You wake up .. Log on , slag the club off ... And half the squad ... Just asking ... Have you got nothing better to do ?
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 30, 2016 13:46:11 GMT
yet another thread hijacked by a petty personal argument. "I'm having the last word", "no I am" etc etc
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:50:18 GMT
I wouldn't need to if you wound your neck in and went back to the hole you crawled out of..... You wake up .. Log on , slag the club off ... And half the squad ... Just asking ... Have you got nothing better to do ? So then Joe Allen and where he can play??
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2016 13:50:47 GMT
yet another thread hijacked by a petty personal argument. "I'm having the last word", "no I am" etc etc Dunna blame me! I was just talking about Joe Allen! π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 13:54:49 GMT
You don't spend Β£31,000,000 on two central midfielder and not play them in central midfield. I think that's the challenge now. Hughes has brought them in, he needs to make it work. Don't see why it can't mate. I think we have to give it a go and stick with it to give it some run of games so that players can build up that partnership. The Whelan-Imbula one didn't really set the world on fire so let's give the Allen-Imbula one a shot. (I still have this suspicion we'll see a 3-man midfield though...)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 13:58:48 GMT
I think that's the challenge now. Hughes has brought them in, he needs to make it work. Don't see why it can't mate. I think we have to give it a go and stick with it to give it some run of games so that players can build up that partnership. The Whelan-Imbula one didn't really set the world on fire so let's give the Allen-Imbula one a shot. (I still have this suspicion we'll see a 3-man midfield though...) I agree with you entirely. I'm also bracing myself for a 433.
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