|
Post by capto on Aug 18, 2016 16:29:13 GMT
in fact? it doesn't mention wages or jobs up? it says recession avoided because of the fall in the pound? but there are risks ahead: further EU splits; trump; US interest rates increase; so as the saying goes, Bravo, Brexit voters, ignore the facts, say what you want & pass it off as truth ? ‘Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it.’ THE CROWD: A Study of the Popular Mind. Gustave Le Bon.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Aug 18, 2016 16:53:54 GMT
in fact? it doesn't mention wages or jobs up? it says recession avoided because of the fall in the pound? but there are risks ahead: further EU splits; trump; US interest rates increase; so as the saying goes, Bravo, Brexit voters, ignore the facts, say what you want & pass it off as truth ? ‘Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it.’ THE CROWD: A Study of the Popular Mind. Gustave Le Bon. Was he Simons dad ?
|
|
|
Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 18, 2016 17:24:27 GMT
in fact? it doesn't mention wages or jobs up? it says recession avoided because of the fall in the pound? but there are risks ahead: further EU splits; trump; US interest rates increase; so as the saying goes, Bravo, Brexit voters, ignore the facts, say what you want & pass it off as truth ? ‘Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it.’ THE CROWD: A Study of the Popular Mind. Gustave Le Bon. I don't remember Osborne saying we'd avoid a recession by the pound devaluing? Perhaps it was when he announced there would have to be an emergency budget and taxes would rise and spending cut further? Or when he said we'd be over £3k a year worse off? Or when jobs would be lost? Either Osborne was lying or this new chancellor will have to be sainted (alongside Nigel obviously)? Of these further risks you talk of, we have zero control over any of them, who the Americans vote for is up to them (it's only Obama who interferes in an allies democratic process), further EU splits are inevitable eventually, I doubt the Fed will take much notice of Brexit when setting their interest rate, etc. So as a free and independent nation we will be far more able to cope with whatever the rest of the world decides to do. So well done all round Brexit voters for seeing through the bullshit and having the common sense to vote out. Whilst savoring the sweet smell of victory it's important that we remember the more feeble minded amongst us and offer them support. Perhaps if we all chipped together we could get capto that book he's quoted as I can think of no one in more need of it.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:58:23 GMT
in fact? it doesn't mention wages or jobs up? it says recession avoided because of the fall in the pound? but there are risks ahead: further EU splits; trump; US interest rates increase; so as the saying goes, Bravo, Brexit voters, ignore the facts, say what you want & pass it off as truth ? ‘Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it.’ THE CROWD: A Study of the Popular Mind. Gustave Le Bon. I think there's something in here about the excuses of losers.....oh and it's from the losers paper too ohhhhhh happy days link
|
|
|
Post by mtrstudent on Aug 22, 2016 0:12:58 GMT
What rules and regulations concerning partners or children affect you working in the States? EDIT: Serious question mate. I'm sure there must be rules. Sorry mate, I missed this and dunno too much about it. I'm on a J-1 exchange visa and once you're in you can stay for the time you're working plus a month. My contract was originally 2 years so my visa is only valid for that. It's only like an entry ticket though and I only need to renew if I go out of the country and come back in: renewal takes a couple of weeks and costs hundreds. I've got some other mates who brought their families over though. One from France and his missus and daughter came over fine but the missus isn't allowed to work. Another who just brought the wife and she is allowed to work. It can be done but it depends on your visa type and it is an expensive arseache, even for a simple exchange programme when we're doing "high demand" professions.
|
|
|
Post by mtrstudent on Aug 22, 2016 0:34:13 GMT
The things that have definitely happened are that the pound is down and stock markets love it when you print money but I reckon it'll be years before we know what Brexit meant for the whole economy. The credit crunch and recession went like this: 2004 - US housing market peaked, August 2007 - bank crisis began, January 2008 - UK stats showed economic growth, April 2008 - "UK unemployment lowest since the 1970s". Obviously the US housing crash was bad but going by the Express' Brexit logic, those 2008 GDP and employment figures prove that it and the bank crash were awesome for the economy. It takes time for economies to turn in the real world, but the Express' headlines don't give a shit about that when they have propaganda to push.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 6:51:27 GMT
This is a quote from the guardian.... ...Let’s be clear. The economy is fragile. It was slowing down even before the referendum date was fixed" Thanks for your honesty lefties
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Aug 22, 2016 8:10:43 GMT
This is a quote from the guardian.... ...Let’s be clear. The economy is fragile. It was slowing down even before the referendum date was fixed" Thanks for your honesty lefties The economy has been fragile for 8yrs & Brexit is the art of casting runes
|
|
|
Post by trentvale68 on Aug 22, 2016 12:28:01 GMT
can't we all just wait & see; instead of trying to score points?
|
|
|
Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 1, 2016 15:10:40 GMT
WTF. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37242804Best manufacturing data for 25 years!!!!! Perhaps Gideons forecasted downturn was always due to last for the 1 month. I don't do Twatter but I'm led to believe there's a new # for remain voters. It's iwasmuggedoffbygideon.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 15:21:08 GMT
WTF. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37242804Best manufacturing data for 25 years!!!!! Perhaps Gideons forecasted downturn was always due to last for the 1 month. I don't do Twatter but I'm led to believe there's a new # for remain voters. It's iwasmuggedoffbygideon. Radio 2 news have a twist.....it's going to be bad because companies buying in will have to pay more and we should "in the future" expect goods price rise because of" Always "in the future" with these doom merchants
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 17:39:30 GMT
Starting to get ridiculously busy at work over the past few weeks. Were having work thrown at us at the mo. Long may it continue. I blame brexit.
|
|
|
Post by rogerjonesisgod on Sept 6, 2016 10:52:34 GMT
Redrow Chairman announces 23% jump in pre-tax profits to 250 million.
Brexit fears were "totally overblown". "People need houses and we're getting on with building them." "It's business as usual"
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 21:52:57 GMT
Stick to Brexit script on immigration, David Davis told. Tory politicians are in complete disarray over the whole thing, are we to stay in the EU after all? Looks likely it must be said. This REMAIN organisation is growing very quickly too. www.commongrounduk.com/
|
|
|
Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 6, 2016 22:46:45 GMT
It will all come down to a choice between two models:
A.Canada model with no freedom of movement of labour but no passporting for services. In other words, services could be dealt a severe blow e.g. City of London, Canary Wharf.
Or
B. Norway model with trading as we are, still paying in and no/little change to migration.
It will come down to what the economists and the City say? If the Canada model deals a big blow to the economy, then M/s May will accept the inevitable and sign up to B?
|
|
|
Post by Gods on Sept 6, 2016 23:53:19 GMT
It's a strange situation, most MP's of all political persuasions (except UKIP and they only have 1 MP in total) know the result of the referendum was nuts and brexit will screw us over for decades but by the same token any attempt to be seen to be backtracking from the popular vote would be political suicide. I don't see any easy answer.
|
|
|
Post by Northy on Sept 7, 2016 2:47:54 GMT
Any chance of admin setting up a seperate page for ************** to rant away on on repeat threads to himself
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 5:40:49 GMT
It will all come down to a choice between two models: A.Canada model with no freedom of movement of labour but no passporting for services. In other words, services could be dealt a severe blow e.g. City of London, Canary Wharf. Or B. Norway model with trading as we are, still paying in and no/little change to migration. It will come down to what the economists and the City say? If the Canada model deals a big blow to the economy, then M/s May will accept the inevitable and sign up to B? It does look like the B option will be the one. It's not really a Brexit at all.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 6:00:15 GMT
Just heard on the news that altho? As I mentioned on another thread the uk are doing pretty well indeed. Now the pound has broken through the $1.34 mark against the $ with a wave of positive uk data Imo Whoever wants more Europe are very dangerous people who should not be in positions of power in this country The service sector in the U.K. Has come on in leaps and bounds after the last quarter Dooms dayers Morgan Stanley have revised their uk forecast (((surprise surprise))) our European masters are stagnating even after pumping more money in it cannot increase growth, even after issuing a trillion €'s worth of government bonds For 26 years on the trot Australia's economy is still growing Something in this commonwealth thing our nige told us about all those years ago There are whispers that a lot of uk businesses that deal in Europe are secretly happy
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Sept 7, 2016 6:03:38 GMT
The legacy of Cameron
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 6:29:13 GMT
Just heard on the news that altho? As I mentioned on another thread the uk are doing pretty well indeed. Now the pound has broken through the $1.34 mark against the $ with a wave of positive uk data Imo Whoever wants more Europe are very dangerous people who should not be in positions of power in this country The service sector in the U.K. Has come on in leaps and bounds after the last quarter Dooms dayers Morgan Stanley have revised their uk forecast (((surprise surprise))) our European masters are stagnating even after pumping more money in it cannot increase growth, even after issuing a trillion €'s worth of government bonds For 26 years on the trot Australia's economy is still growing Something in this commonwealth thing our nige told us about all those years ago There are whispers that a lot of uk businesses that deal in Europe are secretly happy Let's hope this continues when Brexit actually happens, because all this economic upturn and feel good factor you're describing is occurring whilst we are a fully paid up EU member state and has absolutely sod all to do with Brexit - and that is a cast iron fact Mary my little dried up little tuppence
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 6:31:45 GMT
I still think this could be the issue that eventually brings the Tories down. The cracks haven't gone away.
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Sept 7, 2016 7:14:41 GMT
I still think this could be the issue that eventually brings the Tories down. The cracks haven't gone away. It'd be funny if all our livelihoods weren't at stake. Torys don't give a £@#& about the folk of Britain. They only care about the markets & think that the markets will look after us all. Lovely People
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 7:18:53 GMT
Just heard on the news that altho? As I mentioned on another thread the uk are doing pretty well indeed. Now the pound has broken through the $1.34 mark against the $ with a wave of positive uk data Imo Whoever wants more Europe are very dangerous people who should not be in positions of power in this country The service sector in the U.K. Has come on in leaps and bounds after the last quarter Dooms dayers Morgan Stanley have revised their uk forecast (((surprise surprise))) our European masters are stagnating even after pumping more money in it cannot increase growth, even after issuing a trillion €'s worth of government bondsFor 26 years on the trot Australia's economy is still growing Something in this commonwealth thing our nige told us about all those years ago There are whispers that a lot of uk businesses that deal in Europe are secretly happy Let's hope this continues when Brexit actually happens, because all this economic upturn and feel good factor you're describing is occurring whilst we are a fully paid up EU member state and has absolutely sod all to do with Brexit - and that is a cast iron fact Mary my little dried up little tuppence Just to clarify in red above and just to remind those many posters who were on here the day after the vote calling all brexit voters fools Always the look is towards the U.K. Only Now owt we can see the wider picture the jk is not the problem THE EUROPEAN UNION IS THE PROBLEM my little bald buddy
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 7:27:41 GMT
Let's hope this continues when Brexit actually happens, because all this economic upturn and feel good factor you're describing is occurring whilst we are a fully paid up EU member state and has absolutely sod all to do with Brexit - and that is a cast iron fact Mary my little dried up little tuppence Just to clarify in red above and just to remind those many posters who were on here the day after the vote calling all brexit voters fools Always the look is towards the U.K. Only Now owt we can see the wider picture the jk is not the problem THE EUROPEAN UNION IS THE PROBLEM my little bald buddy You may well be right Mary lass, and I can see you're desperate to be proved right , but at the moment we is still in the stinkin' EU blood
|
|
|
Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2016 7:36:11 GMT
Correct, a moment of pure madness. He called the referendum in an attempt to appease possible UKIP voters who had exactly zero MP's at that time and it back fired horribly on him. The public treated it as an opportunity to have a moan about lots of things that brexit won't fix and we are where we are
|
|
|
Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 7, 2016 7:36:44 GMT
It's a strange situation, most MP's of all political persuasions (except UKIP and they only have 1 MP in total) know the result of the referendum was nuts and brexit will screw us over for decades but by the same token any attempt to be seen to be backtracking from the popular vote would be political suicide. I don't see any easy answer. I couldn't give a fuck what any MP thinks. They're not here to tell us what's best, they're here to do as we tell them... And we've told them to get us the fuck out of the piece of shit known as the EU.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 8:23:25 GMT
Correct, a moment of pure madness. He called the referendum in an attempt to appease possible UKIP voters who had exactly zero MP's at that time and it back fired horribly on him. The public treated it as an opportunity to have a moan about lots of things that brexit won't fix and we are where we are It was actually all about trying to bring his own party together, nothing to do with UKIP or indeed the British people. The las thing the Tories want is to put any decisions into the hands of the great unwashed - that's just Tory politics 101
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 8:48:20 GMT
Rumours they're bringing back grammar schools ....another UKIP policy they're taking on board when they once insisted was a wrong move. They know labour are no longer a threat
As has been said, all to do with enticing UKIP supporters . Possibly to bolster Tory piss poor membership numbers
|
|
|
Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2016 8:56:02 GMT
Correct, a moment of pure madness. He called the referendum in an attempt to appease possible UKIP voters who had exactly zero MP's at that time and it back fired horribly on him. The public treated it as an opportunity to have a moan about lots of things that brexit won't fix and we are where we are It was actually all about trying to bring his own party together, nothing to do with UKIP or indeed the British people. The las thing the Tories want is to put any decisions into the hands of the great unwashed - that's just Tory politics 101 Yes I agree, threat to his party from potential UKIP voters diluting the Tory vote and letting other parties in and as you say MP's on the right of his party who have been agitating for years to get out I should have added. I honestly don't think Cameron believed the Tories would win the last election as they did, he expected coalition at best, so he thought he was offering a referendum which would help his cause but in fact never happen. However you look at it a single moment of pure unadulterated madness from Mr. Cameron.
|
|