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Post by skemstokie on Jun 11, 2016 15:11:13 GMT
He called Rooney, Wade, the other day. Sat on the bench he often sits there looking confused and he walks around like an old man. These last few months he's seemed to age at an alarming pace. But who are they going to replace him with? No matter he should retire gracefully never mind being sacked. You just know those at the FA would love to keep him...... Neville says he should stay! There's only one person who would get the whole country behind him and get 100% out of whoever wore the England shirt. David Beckham. But can he manage ?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 15:11:43 GMT
I think you still have to have shown at least some aptitude for the gig - it's more than a figurehead role. Might as well just stick an actual lion in the dugout We should do that anyway; it'd be ace. Has any team got a zebra mascot? Are the RSA national side the Springboks or is that just the rugby team?
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 11, 2016 15:14:43 GMT
I really, really don't care. This is the first competition I've got no passion for, mainly down to that utter, utter wanker Owl face being in charge and Rooney obviously starting when he doesn't deserve a starting place, and now the utterly superb, fantastic, scrumptious looking cheesecake I took out of the freezer this morning for tonight has been stolen by the dog, fcuk off Hodgson its your fault. The wagging tailed bastard needs a good kicking and throwing out. And your dog sounds a dick as well. I drew russia in the sweep at work so my emotions tonight are torn need at least 3rd place or the top goalscorer to double my money.
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 11, 2016 15:16:04 GMT
We should do that anyway; it'd be ace. Has any team got a zebra mascot? Are the RSA national side the Springboks or is that just the rugby team? They're the Bafana Bafana, which apparently translates to Go Boys Go Boys.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 11, 2016 15:16:31 GMT
There are a million and one candidates. Capello is one of the best managers there has ever been and he was toss. Just because they come with a track record doesn't mean they will be a success. I'd give it to Southgate. On what basis? Failed at Boro. Failed in U21s Euro's last summer. I'd be gobsmacked if he is ever a success managing adults. If it has to be an Englishman then there is no one,not a single man who is up to the job. Shocking and depressing in equal measure. What is success this summer? Semi and Hodgson keeps his job for sure Fail to make the quarters and I agree he would go. Quarters and play well but unlucky,he would keep his job. Quarters and play badly,he would probably lose it. Just won the Toulon tournament. Knows the players coming through who will make up future England teams. Hodgson has failed at two tournaments so why is he in a job? You don't know who is up to it until they try - all the managers we've given the job to had a 'track record' and all failed. Give it Neville then.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 15:18:54 GMT
Are the RSA national side the Springboks or is that just the rugby team? They're the Bafana Bafana, which apparently translates to Go Boys Go Boys. Of course. I think I'll edge away from this precipice I've created for us.
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2016 15:19:42 GMT
On what basis? Failed at Boro. Failed in U21s Euro's last summer. I'd be gobsmacked if he is ever a success managing adults. If it has to be an Englishman then there is no one,not a single man who is up to the job. Shocking and depressing in equal measure. What is success this summer? Semi and Hodgson keeps his job for sure Fail to make the quarters and I agree he would go. Quarters and play well but unlucky,he would keep his job. Quarters and play badly,he would probably lose it. Just won the Toulon tournament. Knows the players coming through who will make up future England teams. Hodgson has failed at two tournaments so why is he in a job? You don't know who is up to it until they try - all the managers we've given the job to had a 'track record' and all failed. Give it Neville then. he has just won Toulon tournament,fair play. If he goes and manages a club and does well over a sustained period then he ought to be in contention. As for Neville,I don't think a pundit should be the England manager. It should be an actual manager not a rookie.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 11, 2016 15:22:33 GMT
Just won the Toulon tournament. Knows the players coming through who will make up future England teams. Hodgson has failed at two tournaments so why is he in a job? You don't know who is up to it until they try - all the managers we've given the job to had a 'track record' and all failed. Give it Neville then. he has just won Toulon tournament,fair play. If he goes and manages a club and does well over a sustained period then he ought to be in contention. As for Neville,I don't think a pundit should be the England manager. It should be an actual manager not a rookie. Disagree. Hughes went from playing to managing Wales and did pretty well. We've had plenty of 'actual' managers - they were mostly all shit. Wasn't Hoddle inexperienced and he got us playing half decent?
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Post by potterspele on Jun 11, 2016 16:56:57 GMT
I don't particularly like Hodgson. I think his tactics are too predictable and can stifle games at times.
But...
In spite of that I think he has shown faith in bringing through a new generation of players, particularly over the last 12-18 months. The team looks as though there is more potential in it than I have seen for years and for that I think he deserves some credit.
If we underperform then it will be time to go, let someone else try and mould the young players into a system in preparation for the world cup but if we perform well then surely he will deserve credit for responding to a poor showing in the last tournament and succeeding where he previously failed. The measure of success is subjective but I think we would need to reach the semis to consider it a successful tournament.
Time will tell!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 17:01:09 GMT
If we don't get to the quarters then definitely yes he has to go. Pardew would probably be his replacement
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Post by thevoid on Jun 11, 2016 18:30:29 GMT
No English candidates inspire. Southgate? Qualified for the last U21 finals and we went out in the group stage.
You get the best man for the job and that means a foreign coach.
Take the rugby team- dreadful World Cup, they appoint a foreign coach and we win a first Grand Slam in 13 years.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 18:31:08 GMT
If we don't get to the quarters then definitely yes he has to go. Pardew would probably be his replacement Fucking hell. That's bleak.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 18:32:11 GMT
If we don't get to the quarters then definitely yes he has to go. Pardew would probably be his replacement Fucking hell. That's bleak. In Alan we trust
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Post by roylandstoke on Jun 11, 2016 18:50:31 GMT
Should have been sacked 2 years ago after we failed to get out of a group that was won by Costa Rica.
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Post by LDE76 on Jun 11, 2016 18:51:15 GMT
Fucking hell. That's bleak. In Alan we trust
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 11, 2016 18:54:03 GMT
I'd suggest there are very few people who watch football live in England would exclude vardy for llana or sterling or Rooney on this seasons Performances . Time will tell whether Paying him £3million a year to go to Southampton every week is good value or not
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 19:00:01 GMT
I'd sack him now
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2016 19:49:44 GMT
he has just won Toulon tournament,fair play. If he goes and manages a club and does well over a sustained period then he ought to be in contention. As for Neville,I don't think a pundit should be the England manager. It should be an actual manager not a rookie. Disagree. Hughes went from playing to managing Wales and did pretty well. We've had plenty of 'actual' managers - they were mostly all shit. Wasn't Hoddle inexperienced and he got us playing half decent? No Hoddle had success at Swindon and Chelsea He was ok as England manager some progressive stuff,snd some poor stuff (Romania game stands out) Poor man management though. Terrible at Spurs,Southampton and Wolves
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2016 19:52:14 GMT
I'd suggest there are very few people who watch football live in England would exclude vardy for llana or sterling or Rooney on this seasons Performances . Time will tell whether Paying him £3million a year to go to Southampton every week is good value or not Lapland very good so far,Rooney is doing fine in midfield,Sterling has been good and bad in equal measure Vardy out wide,no ta 442 later on,yhen get Vardy on
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 11, 2016 19:55:45 GMT
4 years planing and our master plan is Harry Kane takes more corners than all his other England games ever .
Stunning. Ineptitude from England's management i
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 19:58:26 GMT
4 years planing and our master plan is Harry Kane takes more corners than all his other England games ever . Stunning. Ineptitude from England's management i We've played pretty well tonight so far though Benj.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 19:58:54 GMT
4 years planing and our master plan is Harry Kane takes more corners than all his other England games ever . Stunning. Ineptitude from England's management i This years golden boot winner taking all the set pieces instead of being in the box to get on the end of them. Nice one Hodgson!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 11, 2016 20:34:34 GMT
Chief don't disagree it's a talented bunch no question but jury is out on the management for me .
Eg I can't help feeling if vardy played for manhunts he would have started and the game has cried out for his pace and predatory Instinct .
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 20:39:12 GMT
Chief don't disagree it's a talented bunch no question but jury is out on the management for me . Eg I can't help feeling if vardy played for manhunts he would have started and the game has cried out for his pace and predatory Instinct . If you don't disagree why not say that outright rather than always looking for the negative?
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Post by march4 on Jun 11, 2016 20:54:31 GMT
No team shape No obvious system No ethos And no players from the team who dominated English football and won the Prem by an amazing 10pts.
Had we not scored from a poorly taken free kick that the keeper decided not to save we would be half-way home already.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 11, 2016 20:59:09 GMT
he has just won Toulon tournament,fair play. If he goes and manages a club and does well over a sustained period then he ought to be in contention. As for Neville,I don't think a pundit should be the England manager. It should be an actual manager not a rookie. Disagree. Hughes went from playing to managing Wales and did pretty well. We've had plenty of 'actual' managers - they were mostly all shit. Wasn't Hoddle inexperienced and he got us playing half decent?His win % of 60% is only bettered by Ramsay and Capello. He was sacked for his religious beliefs, despite an opinion poll saying he should keep his job. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Hoddle
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 11, 2016 20:59:29 GMT
Chief as I said the Weakness is in the management team and they threw this away justifying those concerns . The decision to leave vardy out bizarre not to bring him on as Russia pushed out pathetic . Finally the two powder puff Centre back selections come home to roost on day 1
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 21:00:46 GMT
Chief as I said the Weakness is in the management team and they threw this away justifying those concerns . The decision to leave vardy out bizarre not to bring him on as Russia pushed out pathetic . Finally the two powder puff Centre back selections come home to roost on day 1 If we'd won we wouldn't have seen you for dust.
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Post by march4 on Jun 11, 2016 21:00:58 GMT
Allardyce should have been England manager years ago.
Still time to appoint him so we don't continue this dreary tip tap garbage for the rest of the tournament.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 11, 2016 21:02:15 GMT
Disagree. Hughes went from playing to managing Wales and did pretty well. We've had plenty of 'actual' managers - they were mostly all shit. Wasn't Hoddle inexperienced and he got us playing half decent?His win % of 60% is only bettered by Ramsay and Capello. He was sacked for his religious beliefs, despite an opinion poll saying he should keep his job. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_HoddleHe was under pressure well before that. That was the excuse people were looking for. The press were on his back a good six months before that and he'd royally pissed the players off as well. It was just the trigger, not the lone cause.
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