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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 21:05:40 GMT
Arnie could go for half of that in the same window. Fucking hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 21:06:47 GMT
Its not good for football actually
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Post by sportsman on Jun 18, 2016 21:07:44 GMT
Leicester are hilarious. Can you imagine, stoke winning the league, a chance to really push on, and your after free transfers and Deeney? The fans would be thinking WTF!
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Post by baystokie on Jun 18, 2016 21:16:18 GMT
If Troy Deeney is worth £20 million then one of my crusty arse hairs is worth at least £25. 'Worth' is rarely something that can be globally, nationally or locally, agreed. He may be worth £20M in Leicester's thinking but only £5M in Swansea's. So, while everyone will have their own opinion of worth, there can be no single, indisputable value for what something is 'worth'.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 18, 2016 21:23:35 GMT
He's such an average player it makes Redmond at 10m look an absolute steal.
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Post by lordb on Jun 18, 2016 21:24:56 GMT
How much is staying in the Premiership worth? Far more than £25m How essential is Deeney towards staying up next season?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 21:28:31 GMT
I know it's 6 years ago and I know it's comparing apples and pears but he signed for Watford for 250k rising to 500k. Now his price is over 25M?
Aubameyang signed for Dortmund for 9M only 3 years ago.
Come on, even in this life of lazy scouting this is all taking the mickey surely?
Are our scouts in this country so bad? Surely there is another Troy Deeney in the lower leagues that can be picked up, coached and improved? Ditto Aubameyang?
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jun 19, 2016 11:24:00 GMT
Hi folks, just some thoughts here from a Leicester fan on the Deeney subject. A lot of us Foxes reckon 25m is a real price to pay, not forgetting we have to invest in other key areas this summer. However, prices/competition for players in modern football is very high at the moment as you all well know, and ultimately the reason why Deeney is valued at 25m is because he is a proven English PL goalscorer, and is very key to Watford because of his leadership, assists, and goals. He's also a honest chap with a good knowledge about football in general. A few months ago he wrote an article on why Leicester are so hard to beat - fair enough I'm going to like it because I'm a Leicester fan, but the actual in depth analysis of us is spot on. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35955616I think what Leicester are buying is also potential. He's 27, an ideal age, and to get 13 PL goals (7 from open play) is impressive for a first season. We are looking at next season, if he can get 13 PL goals in his first season, what can he do next season? Could he double his goal tally and assists? For instance let's say he bags 22 goals in the next campaign, his value will instantly go up to 30m+ and the top four clubs will be interested, like Spurs are at the moment. The consensus is that he would suit us excellently - the work ethic attitude, goals, assists etc. He's got the package which would suit Leicester perfectly with what we're all about. It will be interesting to see how the deal progresses now. Watford, understandably, want to hold out for 32m. And, it's a case of, if Leicester are that willing to sign him, we'll pay it. But, there's also the possibility Deeney himself might hand in a transfer request if Watford prevent the move. I think both Deeney and Watford wouldn't it to pan out that way, given how Watford were the club who gave him a chance, and also the connection he has between the club, fans and players. Both parties would want him to move on good terms, so if Watford accept our offer(s) and Deeney wants the move, then it will be much better that way rather than him handing in a transfer request. Given what Deeney has done for Watford, surely they'd prefer it if Deeney moved on with an accepted offer rather than him handing in a transfer request to make the move. I understand, either way for Watford, it isn't a great situation for them because they are potentially having one of their key players moving on. I get that entirely, as we ourselves are worried whether Vardy/Mahrez/Kante will stay or not. That's my view from a Leicester fan's perspective. Hope it sounds ok, best intentions were meant with the post. Just wanted to give you guys some insight from my opinion
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 19, 2016 11:45:25 GMT
£25 million. It was ridiculous at £20 m never mind 25, a glorified Championship player in a league full of shit defences
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Post by Linx on Jun 19, 2016 12:03:11 GMT
This puts down a marker for what to expect this window. If clubs like Watford can turn down £25 million for any of their players, it shows that the exonomics of football have been totally turned on their head by the TV deal. No PL club needs to sell.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 19, 2016 12:19:06 GMT
Hi folks, just some thoughts here from a Leicester fan on the Deeney subject. A lot of us Foxes reckon 25m is a real price to pay, not forgetting we have to invest in other key areas this summer. However, prices/competition for players in modern football is very high at the moment as you all well know, and ultimately the reason why Deeney is valued at 25m is because he is a proven English PL goalscorer, and is very key to Watford because of his leadership, assists, and goals. He's also a honest chap with a good knowledge about football in general. A few months ago he wrote an article on why Leicester are so hard to beat - fair enough I'm going to like it because I'm a Leicester fan, but the actual in depth analysis of us is spot on. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35955616I think what Leicester are buying is also potential. He's 27, an ideal age, and to get 13 PL goals (7 from open play) is impressive for a first season. We are looking at next season, if he can get 13 PL goals in his first season, what can he do next season? Could he double his goal tally and assists? For instance let's say he bags 22 goals in the next campaign, his value will instantly go up to 30m+ and the top four clubs will be interested, like Spurs are at the moment. The consensus is that he would suit us excellently - the work ethic attitude, goals, assists etc. He's got the package which would suit Leicester perfectly with what we're all about. It will be interesting to see how the deal progresses now. Watford, understandably, want to hold out for 32m. And, it's a case of, if Leicester are that willing to sign him, we'll pay it. But, there's also the possibility Deeney himself might hand in a transfer request if Watford prevent the move. I think both Deeney and Watford wouldn't it to pan out that way, given how Watford were the club who gave him a chance, and also the connection he has between the club, fans and players. Both parties would want him to move on good terms, so if Watford accept our offer(s) and Deeney wants the move, then it will be much better that way rather than him handing in a transfer request. Given what Deeney has done for Watford, surely they'd prefer it if Deeney moved on with an accepted offer rather than him handing in a transfer request to make the move. I understand, either way for Watford, it isn't a great situation for them because they are potentially having one of their key players moving on. I get that entirely, as we ourselves are worried whether Vardy/Mahrez/Kante will stay or not. That's my view from a Leicester fan's perspective. Hope it sounds ok, best intentions were meant with the post. Just wanted to give you guys some insight from my opinion I don't think Deeney is a bad player but £25m no way and if he scores 22 goals in the premier league next season i'll give you the money myself For that sort of money i'd go for Benteke.
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jun 19, 2016 13:49:44 GMT
Hi folks, just some thoughts here from a Leicester fan on the Deeney subject. A lot of us Foxes reckon 25m is a real price to pay, not forgetting we have to invest in other key areas this summer. However, prices/competition for players in modern football is very high at the moment as you all well know, and ultimately the reason why Deeney is valued at 25m is because he is a proven English PL goalscorer, and is very key to Watford because of his leadership, assists, and goals. He's also a honest chap with a good knowledge about football in general. A few months ago he wrote an article on why Leicester are so hard to beat - fair enough I'm going to like it because I'm a Leicester fan, but the actual in depth analysis of us is spot on. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35955616I think what Leicester are buying is also potential. He's 27, an ideal age, and to get 13 PL goals (7 from open play) is impressive for a first season. We are looking at next season, if he can get 13 PL goals in his first season, what can he do next season? Could he double his goal tally and assists? For instance let's say he bags 22 goals in the next campaign, his value will instantly go up to 30m+ and the top four clubs will be interested, like Spurs are at the moment. The consensus is that he would suit us excellently - the work ethic attitude, goals, assists etc. He's got the package which would suit Leicester perfectly with what we're all about. It will be interesting to see how the deal progresses now. Watford, understandably, want to hold out for 32m. And, it's a case of, if Leicester are that willing to sign him, we'll pay it. But, there's also the possibility Deeney himself might hand in a transfer request if Watford prevent the move. I think both Deeney and Watford wouldn't it to pan out that way, given how Watford were the club who gave him a chance, and also the connection he has between the club, fans and players. Both parties would want him to move on good terms, so if Watford accept our offer(s) and Deeney wants the move, then it will be much better that way rather than him handing in a transfer request. Given what Deeney has done for Watford, surely they'd prefer it if Deeney moved on with an accepted offer rather than him handing in a transfer request to make the move. I understand, either way for Watford, it isn't a great situation for them because they are potentially having one of their key players moving on. I get that entirely, as we ourselves are worried whether Vardy/Mahrez/Kante will stay or not. That's my view from a Leicester fan's perspective. Hope it sounds ok, best intentions were meant with the post. Just wanted to give you guys some insight from my opinion I don't think Deeney is a bad player but £25m no way and if he scores 22 goals in the premier league next season i'll give you the money myself For that sort of money i'd go for Benteke. I've always rated Benteke and mentioned him as a potentially very good signing for us. Deeney seems to be the signing we want, and might mean us paying 25m+ for him but we'll see. Although we have decent strikers we still need investment and depth in the forward positions and more.
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Post by drfootball on Jun 19, 2016 14:20:08 GMT
If Troy Deeney is worth £20 million then one of my crusty arse hairs is worth at least £25. 'Worth' is rarely something that can be globally, nationally or locally, agreed. He may be worth £20M in Leicester's thinking but only £5M in Swansea's. So, while everyone will have their own opinion of worth, there can be no single, indisputable value for what something is 'worth'. THIS ! Worth and cost are not the same thing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2016 14:34:32 GMT
'Worth' is rarely something that can be globally, nationally or locally, agreed. He may be worth £20M in Leicester's thinking but only £5M in Swansea's. So, while everyone will have their own opinion of worth, there can be no single, indisputable value for what something is 'worth'. THIS ! Worth and cost are not the same thing. It is but I still don't think this will be the norm. This just seems very extreme.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 14:40:08 GMT
Wait a minute....twenty five million pounds.....for Troy Deeney? Rejected?
I'm fucking done.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Jun 19, 2016 15:25:42 GMT
Wait a minute....twenty five million pounds.....for Troy Deeney? Rejected? I'm fucking done. Sort of feels like the end of days really... Sent from my SM-G928F using proboards
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Post by robstokie on Jun 19, 2016 15:50:20 GMT
25mill?????? Deeneys a decent option for a mid-table outfit looking for someone who could add some physicality in the opponents box, but hes not a CL player, not in a million years. If I was Watford, I would snatch their hand off, with that money they can get an upgrade on Deeney and still have a fair few mill in the bank.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 19, 2016 16:48:50 GMT
It's the myth of more money , prices go up wages go up , quality of games probably won't
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 19, 2016 17:03:22 GMT
I like Deeney very underrated player but the money is silly , he would fit in at Leicester and they will need more players , he is a player who performs every week and creates a lot of goals.
No doubt we will pay stupid money for players too this summer
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 19, 2016 17:11:52 GMT
I don't think Deeney is a bad player but £25m no way and if he scores 22 goals in the premier league next season i'll give you the money myself For that sort of money i'd go for Benteke. I've always rated Benteke and mentioned him as a potentially very good signing for us. Deeney seems to be the signing we want, and might mean us paying 25m+ for him but we'll see. Although we have decent strikers we still need investment and depth in the forward positions and more.
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 19, 2016 17:20:00 GMT
British players will be a premium even more so now because everybody will go for value abroad. Imperitive that we start to bring in more English prospects for the future
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jun 19, 2016 17:26:35 GMT
I've always rated Benteke and mentioned him as a potentially very good signing for us. Deeney seems to be the signing we want, and might mean us paying 25m+ for him but we'll see. Although we have decent strikers we still need investment and depth in the forward positions and more.
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep. Thanks. Yeah Benteke would be a great signing especially when he's in form, but it's also the aspect of wages - no doubt we can afford, but we've got to spend our wages fairly on each member of the squad & other potential new signings. Personally, I'd keep Ulloa and Okazaki, with Vardy, but we're still going to need two strikers whether Vardy/Ulloa/Okazaki move or stay. I think Leicester need five strikers heading into the new PL season and for Europe. Vardy, Ulloa, Okazaki and (two new strikers).
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jun 19, 2016 17:27:03 GMT
I've always rated Benteke and mentioned him as a potentially very good signing for us. Deeney seems to be the signing we want, and might mean us paying 25m+ for him but we'll see. Although we have decent strikers we still need investment and depth in the forward positions and more.
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep. The difference between a Deeney and a Benteke is that with Deeney you know what you will get week in week out wheras Benteke is one of so many players who blow hot and cold . At his best Benteke is probably better but over a season you probably get more value out of Deeney
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jun 19, 2016 17:44:12 GMT
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep. The difference between a Deeney and a Benteke is that with Deeney you know what you will get week in week out wheras Benteke is one of so many players who blow hot and cold . At his best Benteke is probably better but over a season you probably get more value out of Deeney Yeah, probably right there. Deeney like you said is a consistent, solid performer. I just think with Ranieri's coaching knowhow and tactical ability, he could really benefit Benteke and get him back to his best again. Claudio has done an excellent job with our squad players, as a unit we are tactially superb. But, even our own players such as Jeff Schlupp said he gives pointers and directions on how to improve their game. Another instance of Ranieri's tactical quality was when Vardy was suspended for a few games - he then put Schlupp in on the left wing because of his pace and it worked very well because Schlupp then supplied our pace and counter attacks as opposed to Vardy. Benteke was excellent at Villa, and if Leicester/any other club sign him and get him back to his best, he's some striker and will score goals especially in the Premier League where he's proven. As a side note, I want to say thank you to you guys for the welcome to the forum, I've joined fairly recently as you know and recognize I'm an opposition fan, so it's nice I've been accepted here, and given the opportunity to engage / get involved with the discussions. Hoping I can continue to give my insights, I'm looking forward to the Stoke (h) (a) fixtures next season, always look forward to playing against you. You've got great, loud passionate fans as similar to Leicester and you always tend to make an atmosphere either at the Brit or King Power. Two great clubs.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 19, 2016 17:49:20 GMT
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep. The difference between a Deeney and a Benteke is that with Deeney you know what you will get week in week out wheras Benteke is one of so many players who blow hot and cold . At his best Benteke is probably better but over a season you probably get more value out of Deeney While I understand why people have that opinion to me it's a lazy stereotype, careerwise in England Benteke has about 30 less goals in 100+ less games and all his have been in the premier league whereas Deeney has played in the championship for much of this time. I'd be absolutely gutted if Stoke paid £25m for Deeney.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 19, 2016 17:55:59 GMT
I think Benteke is a good signing for anyone provided you play to his strengths which bizarrely Brenda and jurgen don't seem to want to do. But Deeney just doesn't make sense to me for you, looks like Vardy is staying. I'd say he's definitely better than Ulloa and maybe Okazaki but 10-15m better nope. Anyway enjoy the ride, the press i'm sure will turn on you this year too busy sucking up to Jose \ Pep. Thanks. Yeah Benteke would be a great signing especially when he's in form, but it's also the aspect of wages - no doubt we can afford, but we've got to spend our wages fairly on each member of the squad & other potential new signings. Personally, I'd keep Ulloa and Okazaki, with Vardy, but we're still going to need two strikers whether Vardy/Ulloa/Okazaki move or stay. I think Leicester need five strikers heading into the new PL season and for Europe. Vardy, Ulloa, Okazaki and (two new strikers). For sure you need to add depth but next season is a “free” season for you, no danger of going down but also very sensibly your club is only talking of aiming for the top 10. Rather than Deeney i'd spend a bit nore and go for Benteke, Ibe and Berahnio but as I'd like all three here hope you do sign Deeney
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jun 19, 2016 18:39:12 GMT
The difference between a Deeney and a Benteke is that with Deeney you know what you will get week in week out wheras Benteke is one of so many players who blow hot and cold . At his best Benteke is probably better but over a season you probably get more value out of Deeney Yeah, probably right there. Deeney like you said is a consistent, solid performer. I just think with Ranieri's coaching knowhow and tactical ability, he could really benefit Benteke and get him back to his best again. Claudio has done an excellent job with our squad players, as a unit we are tactially superb. But, even our own players such as Jeff Schlupp said he gives pointers and directions on how to improve their game. Another instance of Ranieri's tactical quality was when Vardy was suspended for a few games - he then put Schlupp in on the left wing because of his pace and it worked very well because Schlupp then supplied our pace and counter attacks as opposed to Vardy. Benteke was excellent at Villa, and if Leicester/any other club sign him and get him back to his best, he's some striker and will score goals especially in the Premier League where he's proven. As a side note, I want to say thank you to you guys for the welcome to the forum, I've joined fairly recently as you know and recognize I'm an opposition fan, so it's nice I've been accepted here, and given the opportunity to engage / get involved with the discussions. Hoping I can continue to give my insights, I'm looking forward to the Stoke (h) (a) fixtures next season, always look forward to playing against you. You've got great, loud passionate fans as similar to Leicester and you always tend to make an atmosphere either at the Brit or King Power. Two great clubs.
We are not nearly as loud and passionate as we were in the early Prem. days, but I hope we don't resort to bloody clackers to create an atmosphere
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Post by sportsman on Jun 19, 2016 18:59:35 GMT
The difference between a Deeney and a Benteke is that with Deeney you know what you will get week in week out wheras Benteke is one of so many players who blow hot and cold . At his best Benteke is probably better but over a season you probably get more value out of Deeney While I understand why people have that opinion to me it's a lazy stereotype, careerwise in England Benteke has about 30 less goals in 100+ less games and all his have been in the premier league whereas Deeney has played in the championship for much of this time. I'd be absolutely gutted if Stoke paid £25m for Deeney. Like I've said, can you imagine stoke winning the league, about to enter the champions league, and your going for Troy deeney? You'd be gutted. Leicester looking to survive.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 19, 2016 19:01:54 GMT
Thanks. Yeah Benteke would be a great signing especially when he's in form, but it's also the aspect of wages - no doubt we can afford, but we've got to spend our wages fairly on each member of the squad & other potential new signings. Personally, I'd keep Ulloa and Okazaki, with Vardy, but we're still going to need two strikers whether Vardy/Ulloa/Okazaki move or stay. I think Leicester need five strikers heading into the new PL season and for Europe. Vardy, Ulloa, Okazaki and (two new strikers). For sure you need to add depth but next season is a “free” season for you, no danger of going down but also very sensibly your club is only talking of aiming for the top 10. Rather than Deeney i'd spend a bit nore and go for Benteke, Ibe and Berahnio but as I'd like all three here hope you do sign Deeney No danger of going down? Stranger things have happened - like them winning the league! Season after syndrome is something they are vulnerable to.
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jun 19, 2016 19:25:37 GMT
I think us wanting top ten/six is very sensible. We want to contiune to progress as a club, compete regularly in Europe and establish ourselves as a top outfit in the Premier League. I like to think the Thai owners are ambitious for us in the future, and since they've been our owners they have set their goals and achieved a lot of them thus far.
As regards to the clap banners, I know - it does make me concerned as to our reputation using them because overall our atmosphere even without them is one of the better ones in the league. But, ultimately, they seem to really work for us, we've had the great escape and a PL title since we adopted using them in April 2015. They literally get the whole ground involved with the singing and clapping. The place is usually rocking every home game especially pre match, throughout etc. Adds so much noise to the stadium given there's 32k fans all clapping in accordance with each other. It's all over the ground. I'm not trying to promote them, as I use my hands and in an ideal world I'd like us to create an atmosphere by our hands but at the end of the day they still have to be moved to work, so ultimately we are creating this atmosphere ourselves in my opinion. Of course, success has helped on the pitch but one of the key aspects about last season was the connection between the fans and players. Our home crowd won us points.
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