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Post by Titan Uranus on May 7, 2016 19:43:43 GMT
Rafa is waiting in the wings.
We are big money league now and ready for the "big-push" (Eisenhower speak)
Sparky has lost some credibility these last few months (even his biggest fan can see that)
It all started with his crazy and defeatist team selection against Palace.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 19:45:31 GMT
Sid Never mind my pipe , Your smoking something too strong for you if you don't believe the manager is at some risk . "Separate the person me " from the problem many very rational posters on here are articulating without emotion a 50/50 view on the manager as results tailspin and big money signings fail to convince . Its only natural that those about to entrust the manager with the £40'million or so required to transform this squad might pause to be totally sure they still believe three years on he is the man to put their trust in . It's naive in the extreme to think they won't ask the question of themselves is there someone better equipped to take us to the next level the investment merits . Personally I'm glad im not the one to make the call as I think it's a very tough one he has had on balance three good years but he same could be said of say Jose at Chelsea first time round but it's the last 10 games that force change not the previous 150. My only hope is we don't fall between the two decisions with a wait and see mix and mend approach . What's the next level in your opinion? The manager has his faults but he has nothing to worry about at this moment in time as far as his job is concerned. And neither should he.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 19:46:06 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter.....
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Post by chrisparker on May 7, 2016 19:47:46 GMT
Sid Never mind my pipe , Your smoking something too strong for you if you don't believe the manager is at some risk . "Separate the person me " from the problem many very rational posters on here are articulating without emotion a 50/50 view on the manager as results tailspin and big money signings fail to convince . Its only natural that those about to entrust the manager with the £40'million or so required to transform this squad might pause to be totally sure they still believe three years on he is the man to put their trust in . It's naive in the extreme to think they won't ask the question of themselves is there someone better equipped to take us to the next level the investment merits . Personally I'm glad im not the one to make the call as I think it's a very tough one he has had on balance three good years but he same could be said of say Jose at Chelsea first time round but it's the last 10 games that force change not the previous 150. My only hope is we don't fall between the two decisions with a wait and see mix and mend approach . Hughes is now under pressure, make no mistake of it but that doesn't mean we should go all gung ho & sack him at the end of the season. The big money signings deserve more time to adjust to the premier league. Hughes' record at the transfer market has been very good so far. Players like Pieters, Bojan, Arnie, Affelay, Odemwingie, Moses etc have all come good. Imbula doesn't even understand English yet so I think he deserves more time to prove his worth. Shaq has been a hit-miss this season, much like Arnie in his first. Some people are suggesting Moyes but are we really willing to risk someone like him. Clearly he's a man who knows what it takes to finish in the top half but let's be honest, he's also flirted with relegation more than once. If we're going to fire Hughes, let's at least take a step forward & bring in a younger, hungrier manager.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 7, 2016 19:48:38 GMT
The next level for the investment we have made is Southampton , West Ham . As examples .
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Post by wizzardofdribble on May 7, 2016 19:52:32 GMT
We are in a diabolical decline with no sign of an end. LMH has made exactly the same error as TP. He took the team to a certain level and then tried to 'push on' with big money signings. It cost TP his job. So far his finishes have been 9th, 9th and we're 10th with a game to go. Can you explain to me how that isn't consistent top 10? We are 10th in the Premier Spending League so is it any surprise that we're 10th in The Premier League? All this talk about Hughes being sacked is beyond my comprehension. What a load of tripe. We've got to a Cup Semi Final and finished 10th in the Prem. Anyone would think we've been relegated.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 19:53:10 GMT
Nah fuck im off. I'm pissed off with this Premier League. The olden days were far better. Post Waddo of course .....
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Post by Titan Uranus on May 7, 2016 19:54:22 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... That's the thinking for about 80% of the teams in the Premiership Prestwich.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 7, 2016 19:57:45 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling(don't know why) that he might walk away at the end of the season I agree. I am not saying I want him to, but I something inside me tells me he is going to walk.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 19:58:18 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... That's the thinking for about 80% of the teams in the Premiership Prestwich. Yep. Take away the top 5/6 and we're all an injury crisis away from the bottom end of the table. I remain confident though....,
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Post by Titan Uranus on May 7, 2016 19:58:20 GMT
So far his finishes have been 9th, 9th and we're 10th with a game to go. Can you explain to me how that isn't consistent top 10? We are 10th in the Premier Spending League so is it any surprise that we're 10th in The Premier League? All this talk about Hughes being sacked is beyond my comprehension. What a load of tripe. We've got to a Cup Semi Final and finished 10th in the Prem. Anyone would think we've been relegated. momentum (or lack of it) .... that's the keyword these days in the Premier. You don't have to look far for examples.
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Post by scfc1863 on May 7, 2016 20:01:45 GMT
No , go now and let's move on.
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Post by loosestools on May 7, 2016 20:09:39 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... And just how many weeks have we got to do this? You cant just get rid of dead wood, buy a load of expensive players and get them to bed in, probably have language difficulties, miraculously recover from injury and get team spirit in such a short period of time. I go on my hols and feel great for a couple of weeks on my return to work - then it all goes to ratshit once more. MANAGEMENT!! look no further. (No agenda by the way)
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Post by loosestools on May 7, 2016 20:12:23 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling(don't know why) that he might walk away at the end of the season I agree. I am not saying I want him to, but I something inside me tells me he is going to walk. He's hit a wall in a room with no light and cant find the door, panic attack.
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Post by yellowfang on May 7, 2016 20:14:51 GMT
I hope not. He has not able to influence confidence of the players. He is not able to kick the lazy b-stards up the arse. He hasn't got enough clout with the players I believe. I'm with you buddy, I can't stand the pretender, never have and never will...........OH and have you heard his post match? yet again it's the refs fault! Get rid and get rid NOW
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 7, 2016 20:15:12 GMT
If it did happen it would be a soft landing for both parties
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Post by generationex on May 7, 2016 20:16:02 GMT
The trouble with all this "get rid of the deadwood" stuff is its mostly deadwood he has recently signed.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 20:16:09 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... And just how many weeks have we got to do this? You cant just get rid of dead wood, buy a load of expensive players and get them to bed in, probably have language difficulties, miraculously recover from injury and get team spirit in such a short period of time. I go on my hols and feel great for a couple of weeks on my return to work - then it all goes to ratshit once more. MANAGEMENT!! look no further. (No agenda by the way) Never suggested it would be easy, but there will be takers for the likes of Crouch, Wilson, Ireland etc and we are capable of competing with most European teams so we'll see what happens......
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 20:20:22 GMT
The next level for the investment we have made is Southampton , West Ham . As examples . And what exactly have those two teams achieved lately?
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Post by PB1863 on May 7, 2016 20:41:46 GMT
Look what happened to Charlton. It's about converting chances which we struggle with. Buy a Shane Long type of player that can finish and we will be top 8 next year.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on May 7, 2016 20:42:49 GMT
Look what happened to Charlton. It's about converting chances which we struggle with. Buy a Shane Long type of player that can finish and we will be top 8 next year. Dunna mention Charlton mate on here
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2016 20:50:40 GMT
Hope so.
This is a guy whose career Prem finishes are:
6th 10th 7th 10th 8th 9th 9th (probably)10th
Seems bizarre to talk of him being forced out.
He hasn't actually failed yet.
Unless there are things behind the scenes we're unaware of, he more than deserves the chance to right the ship.
As was mentioned a while back, the majority of teams in the Premier League have subjectively had shit seasons, and we've (objectively) had one one of the less shitty.
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Post by LDE76 on May 7, 2016 20:53:49 GMT
Hope so. This is a guy whose career Prem finishes are: 6th 10th 7th 10th 8th 9th 9th (probably)10th Seems bizarre to talk of him being forced out. He hasn't actually failed yet. Unless there are things behind the scenes we're unaware of, he more than deserves the chance to right the ship. As was mentioned a while back, the majority of teams in the Premier League have subjectively had shit seasons, and we've (objectively) had one one of the less shitty. Interesting. I wonder how many Premier League managers have never finished outside the top half?
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Post by loosestools on May 7, 2016 20:55:18 GMT
Pardew, mirrors and no pants anyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 20:56:46 GMT
Hope so. This is a guy whose career Prem finishes are: 6th 10th 7th 10th 8th 9th 9th (probably)10th Seems bizarre to talk of him being forced out. He hasn't actually failed yet. Unless there are things behind the scenes we're unaware of, he more than deserves the chance to right the ship. As was mentioned a while back, the majority of teams in the Premier League have subjectively had shit seasons, and we've (objectively) had one one of the less shitty. Interesting. I wonder how many Premier League managers have never finished outside the top half? There's a follow on question to that, but I just daren't.
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Post by crapslinger on May 7, 2016 20:58:14 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... Does the deadwood include the injury prone players, we need a lot more than a couple of additions as most can see.
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Post by LDE76 on May 7, 2016 20:58:58 GMT
Interesting. I wonder how many Premier League managers have never finished outside the top half? There's a follow on question to that, but I just daren't. Oh come on! You can't just say that and leave everyone in suspense!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 21:00:07 GMT
Think the players management team and fans all just need the summer off, getting a bit silly now. Let's get everyone back pre season, fit and firing, get rid of the deadwood and get a couple of quality additions in and the future will look a lot brighter..... Does the deadwood include the injury prone players, we need a lot more than a couple of additions as most can see. A couple of quality first teamers and a couple of young. British players to replace a couple of the ageing members of the squad will do nicely
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Post by crapslinger on May 7, 2016 21:01:55 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling(don't know why) that he might walk away at the end of the season I agree. I am not saying I want him to, but I something inside me tells me he is going to walk. His body language is that of a man who has no idea how to put this mess right, I also think he may well quit after the last game.
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Post by crapslinger on May 7, 2016 21:05:34 GMT
Does the deadwood include the injury prone players, we need a lot more than a couple of additions as most can see. A couple of quality first teamers and a couple of young. British players to replace a couple of the ageing members of the squad will do nicely So four will do it for you, good luck with that one, that would be the GK position LB and CB's for me.
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