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Post by partickpotter on May 28, 2016 16:43:45 GMT
Durham, as expected, is turning out to be a repeat of Headingly - only more so.
Nice to see Ali posting the big score this time (lucky 7?). And good to see Woakes doing well with the ball.
It's all a bit one sided though.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on May 28, 2016 22:05:18 GMT
Sri Lanka were absolutely piss poor today unfortunately. Ruthless stuff from England though, great to see.
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Post by ukcstokie on May 28, 2016 23:32:38 GMT
Sri Lanka were absolutely piss poor today unfortunately. Ruthless stuff from England though, great to see. Would they be any better later in the season? Perhaps, but they're really not good enough. Maybe we need to introduce 2 or 3 divisions into Test cricket - but how would you handle England and Australia maybe not being in the same division?
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on May 29, 2016 6:38:27 GMT
Sri Lanka were absolutely piss poor today unfortunately. Ruthless stuff from England though, great to see. Would they be any better later in the season? Perhaps, but they're really not good enough. Maybe we need to introduce 2 or 3 divisions into Test cricket - but how would you handle England and Australia maybe not being in the same division? Maybe marginally better, but you're right they aren't good enough. I'm a huge fan of the two divisions idea, or a Test Championship, but I'm not sure the latter is plausible. It's a good point about England and Australia though. You'd think that an exception would have to be made for the Ashes if that were to happen.
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Post by charlesjefferson on May 30, 2016 15:43:35 GMT
2-0
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Post by Okie Stokie. on May 30, 2016 17:41:52 GMT
I have a serious question about Compton.........Why? I know, It's a tricky one ain't it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 30, 2016 17:45:07 GMT
Borthwick will be in the team for the Pakiston series I think.
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Post by partickpotter on May 31, 2016 5:46:14 GMT
Nice to see Sri Lanka make a better fist of things in their second innings even if the result was inevitable. It was just a question of how wide the victory margin would be; 9 wickets is quite emphatic.
So onto Lords, a wicket and a ground with less demons for the Sri Lankans so hopefully a more competitive test. A big test though for Compton and Finn. They both need strong performances because there are others in the wings who deserve their chance.
As to Durham a forgettable test other than some notable landmarks; Cook's 10,000th test run, Herath's 300th test wicket and Jimmy's 450th.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 31, 2016 8:53:13 GMT
We haven't got a great record at Lords recently have we? I might be wrong, just a hunch.
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Post by partickpotter on May 31, 2016 16:35:48 GMT
We haven't got a great record at Lords recently have we? I might be wrong, just a hunch. You're possibly thinking of the 90s; 14 Lords tests, just 3 wins and 6 defeats. Ouch! Since 2006 it's not bad we've won 9 of 21 tests, drawn 8 and lost just 4. The fact that two of these losses have come in the past two years including that drubbing from Australia last summer doesn't diminish a good recent record (too much!).
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 9, 2016 12:00:45 GMT
3rd test underway - and it's more of the same. England bat and lose early wickets. 3 down before lunch.
The Compton experiment, to no one's surprise has failed. Excepting the selectors of course.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 9, 2016 16:14:57 GMT
We've made a total hash of this pitch and the conditions. Should be ending the day 300-3 at worst and we're 6 wickets down already.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 16:30:35 GMT
3rd test underway - and it's more of the same. England bat and lose early wickets. 3 down before lunch. The Compton experiment, to no one's surprise has failed. Excepting the selectors of course. Since the First Test in South Africa it's been a pretty poor effort from Nick Compton , we need to move on from him he has not really looked the part of a number three I'm afraid , there are other options out there ,on the basis of scoring heavily in he championship Borthwick seems to be the next in line for selection .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 16:37:03 GMT
As has been the case during the winter and this summer so far there has been some pretty poor shot selection from England's batsmen against ( Sri Lanka certainly ) an average bowling attack .....more old fashioned application and patience need to be applied ....Hales really let himself and the side down with that ridiculous shot he played this morning ...poor stuff .
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 9, 2016 19:42:43 GMT
When everyone is fit and available to play test cricket what is your preferred team? Mine is as follows..
Cook Hales Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Buttler Ali Broad Wood Anderson
.. Given a run together I really think that could become the best test team in the world.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 9, 2016 20:29:00 GMT
3rd test underway - and it's more of the same. England bat and lose early wickets. 3 down before lunch. The Compton experiment, to no one's surprise has failed. Excepting the selectors of course. Since the First Test in South Africa it's been a pretty poor effort from Nick Compton , we need to move on from him he has not really looked the part of a number three I'm afraid , there are other options out there ,on the basis of scoring heavily in he championship Borthwick seems to be the next in line for selection . Borthwick seems heavily tipped as the next cab off the rank, if he does well interestingly he could also be shutting the door on Rashid as can't see England picking too leggies although Borthwick is now seen more of a batsman who bowls, pressure then moves onto Vince who has to perform and considering Pakistan have a much better bowling attack it's not looking good for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 21:24:42 GMT
When everyone is fit and available to play test cricket what is your preferred team? Mine is as follows.. Cook Hales Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Buttler Ali Broad Wood Anderson .. Given a run together I really think that could become the best test team in the world. Possibly its still a bit premature to suggest that yet though as Borthwick is still an unknown quantity at this level with the bat , particularly if he is coming in at three in your line up, Hales has made a promising start at the top of the order ( today aside ) but he still has some way to go yet before he is established as Cook's permanent partner ....we should know more following the Pakistan series as they will provide a sterner test than the Sri Lankans ....Hopefully Wood will recover fully from his injury to build on his good performances last season ....I still think despite one or two good spells over the last couple of years from Moeen Ali that we are short of quality in the spin department ...he has been more impressive with the bat than with the ball, but there is reason to be confident of improved performances over the next few months .....Australia next winter may be a defining tour .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 21:28:53 GMT
Since the First Test in South Africa it's been a pretty poor effort from Nick Compton , we need to move on from him he has not really looked the part of a number three I'm afraid , there are other options out there ,on the basis of scoring heavily in he championship Borthwick seems to be the next in line for selection . Borthwick seems heavily tipped as the next cab off the rank, if he does well interestingly he could also be shutting the door on Rashid as can't see England picking too leggies although Borthwick is now seen more of a batsman who bowls, pressure then moves onto Vince who has to perform and considering Pakistan have a much better bowling attack it's not looking good for him. Agree about Vince , he seems to have what is needed but needs to put a few performances together to go about cementing his place .....it will be interesting to judge one or two of these young players after the upcoming Pakistan series , there are still plenty of questions to be asked about the batsmen at the moment .
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 10, 2016 11:06:42 GMT
Borthwick seems heavily tipped as the next cab off the rank, if he does well interestingly he could also be shutting the door on Rashid as can't see England picking too leggies although Borthwick is now seen more of a batsman who bowls, pressure then moves onto Vince who has to perform and considering Pakistan have a much better bowling attack it's not looking good for him. Agree about Vince , he seems to have what is needed but needs to put a few performances together to go about cementing his place .....it will be interesting to judge one or two of these young players after the upcoming Pakistan series , there are still plenty of questions to be asked about the batsmen at the moment . Three spaces in the top 5 have questions; only Cook and Root are certainties. If Butler plays as well in first class cricket as he has done in limited overs since returning from the IPL, I can see him coming back in with Bairstow moving up to 5. A special mention to one youngster who has looked the part - Chris Woakes. He is looking like a very good #8 bat / 3rd seamer. Starting to look like a test player - which is a big bonus. My 11 for the Pakistan first test; Cook Hales Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Butler Ali Woakes Broad Anderson
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 12:55:36 GMT
Agree about Vince , he seems to have what is needed but needs to put a few performances together to go about cementing his place .....it will be interesting to judge one or two of these young players after the upcoming Pakistan series , there are still plenty of questions to be asked about the batsmen at the moment . Three spaces in the top 5 have questions; only Cook and Root are certainties. If Butler plays as well in first class cricket as he has done in limited overs since returning from the IPL, I can see him coming back in with Bairstow moving up to 5. A special mention to one youngster who has looked the part - Chris Woakes. He is looking like a very good #8 bat / 3rd seamer. Starting to look like a test player - which is a big bonus. My 11 for the Pakistan first test; Cook Hales Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Butler Ali Woakes Broad Anderson I think they are talking about Stokes returning for the second test v Pakistan Partick . Having gone with Vince initially , they may choose to stick with him in the short term which is fair enough in my view despite the form of Borthwick .
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 10, 2016 13:08:48 GMT
Three spaces in the top 5 have questions; only Cook and Root are certainties. If Butler plays as well in first class cricket as he has done in limited overs since returning from the IPL, I can see him coming back in with Bairstow moving up to 5. A special mention to one youngster who has looked the part - Chris Woakes. He is looking like a very good #8 bat / 3rd seamer. Starting to look like a test player - which is a big bonus. My 11 for the Pakistan first test; Cook Hales Borthwick Root Bairstow Stokes Butler Ali Woakes Broad Anderson I think they are talking about Stokes returning for the second test v Pakistan Partick . Having gone with Vince initially , they may choose to stick with him in the short term which is fair enough in my view despite the form of Borthwick . That can be a problem of the "taxi rank" policy. A player shows great form to push himself up so he's next on the rank. By the time there's a gap, his form could have gone. BTW Welcome back mate!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 13:31:57 GMT
I think they are talking about Stokes returning for the second test v Pakistan Partick . Having gone with Vince initially , they may choose to stick with him in the short term which is fair enough in my view despite the form of Borthwick . That can be a problem of the "taxi rank" policy. A player shows great form to push himself up so he's next on the rank. By the time there's a gap, his form could have gone. BTW Welcome back mate! That's true it's happened plenty of times in the past ...but you do feel Vince deserves a decent run to try and establish himself.....Borthwick may have to bide his time for now.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jun 11, 2016 11:53:26 GMT
Not bad at the moment. 202-5.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 12:05:50 GMT
Not bad at the moment. 202-5. Even better 218 -6 at lunch .....well bowled England .
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jun 11, 2016 12:13:07 GMT
Not bad at the moment. 202-5. Even better 218 -6 at lunch .....well bowled England . Is it!!! Just goes to shows if you take your eye off the ball for a few seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 14:36:33 GMT
288 all out , fine bowling from all the seamers today
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 15:55:46 GMT
50-3 Compton failed again , that could be it for him , Root gets one that keeps a bit low and a total misjudgment of the line by Vnce , although it did come back down the " hill " .
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 12, 2016 0:16:56 GMT
50-3 Compton failed again , that could be it for him , Root gets one that keeps a bit low and a total misjudgment of the line by Vnce , although it did come back down the " hill " . I really can't see Compton getting another chance (I think this was the one too many games rather than the one two few that has been mentioned). Feel sorry for him: as soon as he get's under pressure then the media are pushing his replacement - like they'd been briefed. The first time it was Root, now Borthwick. Compton doesn't seem to do well under pressure, but I get the feeling he could hit that vein of form he could do well. But there's little evidence he can really cope at Test level. I think we need to go with Bothwick (who also provides a useful leggy option) in the next test, and just hope he can keep his form going.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 0:36:56 GMT
50-3 Compton failed again , that could be it for him , Root gets one that keeps a bit low and a total misjudgment of the line by Vnce , although it did come back down the " hill " . I really can't see Compton getting another chance (I think this was the one too many games rather than the one two few that has been mentioned). Feel sorry for him: as soon as he get's under pressure then the media are pushing his replacement - like they'd been briefed. The first time it was Root, now Borthwick. Compton doesn't seem to do well under pressure, but I get the feeling he could hit that vein of form he could do well. But there's little evidence he can really cope at Test level. I think we need to go with Bothwick (who also provides a useful leggy option) in the next test, and just hope he can keep his form going. Compton was unlucky to be left out three years ago ......that being said I didn't feel it was right to bring him back in the winter ...his time had passed , seemed odd to me to leave a quality player like Bell out. ( although I admit he had been struggling of late ) and bring someone like Compton back ....no comparison really .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 0:38:45 GMT
50-3 Compton failed again , that could be it for him , Root gets one that keeps a bit low and a total misjudgment of the line by Vnce , although it did come back down the " hill " . I really can't see Compton getting another chance (I think this was the one too many games rather than the one two few that has been mentioned). Feel sorry for him: as soon as he get's under pressure then the media are pushing his replacement - like they'd been briefed. The first time it was Root, now Borthwick. Compton doesn't seem to do well under pressure, but I get the feeling he could hit that vein of form he could do well. But there's little evidence he can really cope at Test level. I think we need to go with Bothwick (who also provides a useful leggy option) in the next test, and just hope he can keep his form going. I have no problem with giving Borthwick a chance ....its deserved on weight of runs scored .
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