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Post by Bick on Apr 29, 2016 12:00:44 GMT
Talk of Everton having a colossal amount of money to spend under their new owners.
Hughes is a proven manager who will also work with a director of football and could pave a future with a big spending Everton - not as rediculous as it seems,
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Post by kustokie on Apr 29, 2016 12:45:46 GMT
Personally think that three top 10 finishes is a huge achievement,plus being able to attract top players to the club who we could have never dream't of before Be careful of what you wish for Just what I was thinking. We do need a reality check. A lot of fans seem to think we are plying football manager and can swap and change to our hearts content and all will be rosey I seem to be havin trouble getting my point across. I definitely, 100% do not want Hughes to leave because it wll be a mess for his replacement to inherit - the nucleus of the team he is building has not yet gelled and there are some significant holes that need to be plugged. I am very concerned that it will fall apart in the Summer if he and his staff are not there to hold it together and fill in the gaps. TBH I am not too concerned whether people agree or disagree with the notion that he has not yet accomplished a great deal yet as a manager. The last three woeful performances not withstanding, he has definitely made Stoke a much more attractive team to watch. However, my expectations for year 3 have not been met: 1) qualifying for Europe and 2) reaching a Cup Final. I certainly hope he keeps it together and achieves those goals in 2016/17. What's wrong with that?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 29, 2016 12:46:57 GMT
Just what I was thinking. We do need a reality check. A lot of fans seem to think we are plying football manager and can swap and change to our hearts content and all will be rosey I seem to be havin trouble getting my point across. I definitely, 100% do not want Hughes to leave because it wll be a mess for his replacement to inherit - the nucleus of the team he is building has not yet gelled and there are some significant holes that need to be plugged. I am very concerned that it will fall apart in the Summer if he and his staff are not there to hold it together and fill in the gaps. TBH I am not too concerned whether people agree or disagree with the notion that he has not yet accomplished a great deal yet as a manager. The last three woeful performances not withstanding, he has definitely made Stoke a much more attractive team to watch. However, my expectations for year 3 have not been met: 1) qualifying for Europe and 2) reaching a Cup Final. I certainly hope he keeps it together and achieves those goals in 2016/17. What's wrong with that? I think you're confusing 'hope' and 'expectations'.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 29, 2016 12:48:19 GMT
I think he could fancy it . I think Hughes has part of him that wants to prove he can be a top manager and he has rebuilt his reputation at Stoke .What does he want from the next 3-5 years ? If he keeps Stoke in this league he would probably keep his job unless he fell out with people . At Everton he would get a much bigger profile from being in a fanatical football city , he has a few young players there who can get much better , a much more developed academy in terms of producing players and maybe the money to sign players and persuade Others to stay . I'm not sure who he supported growing up but lots of Evertoninans from North Wales. All these things could be a pull
The other side of the coin is that he would be under a lot more pressure if he could not get them into Europe or win a trophy , even Moyes got some stick , so it's down to whether he wants the challenge or not . If he goes and we got Moyes I would be happy enough but equally happy if he decides he wants to carry on here as long as he packs the slowball in
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Post by kustokie on Apr 29, 2016 12:52:37 GMT
I seem to be havin trouble getting my point across. I definitely, 100% do not want Hughes to leave because it wll be a mess for his replacement to inherit - the nucleus of the team he is building has not yet gelled and there are some significant holes that need to be plugged. I am very concerned that it will fall apart in the Summer if he and his staff are not there to hold it together and fill in the gaps. TBH I am not too concerned whether people agree or disagree with the notion that he has not yet accomplished a great deal yet as a manager. The last three woeful performances not withstanding, he has definitely made Stoke a much more attractive team to watch. However, my expectations for year 3 have not been met: 1) qualifying for Europe and 2) reaching a Cup Final. I certainly hope he keeps it together and achieves those goals in 2016/17. What's wrong with that? I think you're confusing 'hope' and 'expectations'. Maybe. Or just as my dad used to say "triumph of hope over experience". Or "low expectations are easy to meet".
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Post by superheroantonius on Apr 29, 2016 13:17:56 GMT
It's not easy to work out what sparky has achieved.
Someone, not him , decided to sign promising young goalie Jack Butland from Birningham City before he got here. Without that deal , where would be ?
We have more players comfortable on the ball than in TP's time , but does that mean the opposition, find trying to grab a point or 3 at the Brit any more difficult ?
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 29, 2016 13:42:52 GMT
Please no, We now have to continue watching boring boring tippy tappy useless football with no end product other than losing possession. No passion, no pace and just an inevitable decline Recent events have brought to the fore considerable dissenters to Mr Hughes reign, so unless he addresses the poor defence and method if play that list will grow until he goes I'm sorry but this is the stuff that really pisses me off. Hughes has broken our record points total 2 years in a row. He has established us as a top 10 team & he's the sole reason we've been able to sign players like Bojan, Arnie, Imbula etc. Any "Stoke fan" who wants Hughes out is mental & needs his head examined. He's the best manager we've had in a long long time.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 29, 2016 13:52:28 GMT
Please no, We now have to continue watching boring boring tippy tappy useless football with no end product other than losing possession. No passion, no pace and just an inevitable decline Recent events have brought to the fore considerable dissenters to Mr Hughes reign, so unless he addresses the poor defence and method if play that list will grow until he goes I'm sorry but this is the stuff that really pisses me off. Hughes has broken our record points total 2 years in a row. He has established us as a top 10 team & he's the sole reason we've been able to sign players like Bojan, Arnie, Imbula etc. Any "Stoke fan" who wants Hughes out is mental & needs his head examined. He's the best manager we've had in a long long time. Ditto that. And he'll keep making Stoke attractive into the future.
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 29, 2016 14:03:53 GMT
MH on Everton job: Its just speculation and I don't encourage that. The talk about jobs, I've had that against me before I didn't like it so I wouldn't want to comment and encourage that sort of speculation against someone who is in the job already.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 29, 2016 14:06:04 GMT
It's not easy to work out what sparky has achieved. Someone, not him , decided to sign promising young goalie Jack Butland from Birningham City before he got here. Without that deal , where would be ? We have more players comfortable on the ball than in TP's time , but does that mean the opposition, find trying to grab a point or 3 at the Brit any more difficult ? Do you mean this season or in his three years in charge?
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Post by werrington on Apr 29, 2016 14:31:21 GMT
Please no, We now have to continue watching boring boring tippy tappy useless football with no end product other than losing possession. No passion, no pace and just an inevitable decline Recent events have brought to the fore considerable dissenters to Mr Hughes reign, so unless he addresses the poor defence and method if play that list will grow until he goes Considerable dissenters to Hughes reign? Basically implying you never wanted him here in the first place so wait for the first sign of things going wrong before showing your cards. Why did you not express your doubts when we were winning ? Have a ganders at his posting history mate It's pathetic
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2016 14:34:51 GMT
If he goes then I hope Rodgers gets it. Imagine the meltdown on here. Pisser.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 29, 2016 14:43:28 GMT
If he goes then I hope Rodgers gets it. Imagine the meltdown on here. Pisser. Brendan Rodgers is a fucking nob. My meltdown has started just thinking about it!
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Post by milky on Apr 29, 2016 14:48:24 GMT
Considerable dissenters to Hughes reign? Basically implying you never wanted him here in the first place so wait for the first sign of things going wrong before showing your cards. Why did you not express your doubts when we were winning ? Have a ganders at his posting history mate It's pathetic I've seen it mate. It's embarrassing stuff.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 29, 2016 14:49:06 GMT
MH on Everton job: Its just speculation and I don't encourage that. The talk about jobs, I've had that against me before I didn't like it so I wouldn't want to comment and encourage that sort of speculation against someone who is in the job already. Standard answer from every manager. Doesn't antagonise anyone and keeps every option only Would rather "I'm going no where"
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Post by milky on Apr 29, 2016 14:50:34 GMT
It's not easy to work out what sparky has achieved. Someone, not him , decided to sign promising young goalie Jack Butland from Birningham City before he got here. Without that deal , where would be ? We have more players comfortable on the ball than in TP's time , but does that mean the opposition, find trying to grab a point or 3 at the Brit any more difficult ? How are you explaining the two 9th place finishes when Asmir was number one and Jack rarely featured then ? That it was really all down to Pulis for signing a keeper that hardly played anyway ???
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 14:54:54 GMT
If he goes then I hope Rodgers gets it. Imagine the meltdown on here. Pisser. You have serious anger management issues youth. How many people have said they want Rodgers or for that matter want Hughes to leave?. Twisting the context of a thread as usual to suit your petty rants.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2016 15:06:45 GMT
If he goes then I hope Rodgers gets it. Imagine the meltdown on here. Pisser. You have serious anger management issues youth. How many people have said they want Rodgers or for that matter want Hughes to leave?. Twisting the context of a thread as usual to suit your petty rants. Anger management issues? I'm seriously chilled thank you. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror sunshine. How do you think this board will react if Brenton was named boss, we lost a few and he came out with one of his parody interviews? Carnage on here. A sight to behold. For the record, AGAIN, Hughes IN. Edit: rather odd you actually liked my post?! wtaf?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 29, 2016 15:16:58 GMT
MH on Everton job: Its just speculation and I don't encourage that. The talk about jobs, I've had that against me before I didn't like it so I wouldn't want to comment and encourage that sort of speculation against someone who is in the job already. Standard answer from every manager. Doesn't antagonise anyone and keeps every option only Would rather "I'm going no where" Dead right. That statement rang alarm bells for me.
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Post by superheroantonius on Apr 29, 2016 15:20:56 GMT
It's not easy to work out what sparky has achieved. Someone, not him , decided to sign promising young goalie Jack Butland from Birningham City before he got here. Without that deal , where would be ? We have more players comfortable on the ball than in TP's time , but does that mean the opposition, find trying to grab a point or 3 at the Brit any more difficult ? How are you explaining the two 9th place finishes when Asmir was number one and Jack rarely featured then ? That it was really all down to Pulis for signing a keeper that hardly played anyway ??? I haven't got an agenda against sparky ...i like him He seems to have moved us on from parking the bus to little useful effect away from home ...and that is real progress At home without Diouf (not sparkys fault ??) and Huth we have looked less muscular and more of a soft touch ,and without Butland I am not sure the league table would show any progress ?? who knows ???
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Post by trigger on Apr 29, 2016 15:21:47 GMT
Well David Moyes was in the Waddington Suite against Spurs as was Roy Keane but imagine he was looking at Whelan & Co
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 29, 2016 15:29:08 GMT
How are you explaining the two 9th place finishes when Asmir was number one and Jack rarely featured then ? That it was really all down to Pulis for signing a keeper that hardly played anyway ??? I haven't got an agenda against sparky ...i like him He seems to have moved us on from parking the bus to little useful effect away from home ...and that is real progress At home without Diouf (not sparkys fault ??) and Huth we have looked less muscular and more of a soft touch ,and without Butland I am not sure the league table would show any progress ?? who knows ??? Butland isn't the reason we've finished ninth the last two years is he?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 29, 2016 15:36:25 GMT
I haven't got an agenda against sparky ...i like him He seems to have moved us on from parking the bus to little useful effect away from home ...and that is real progress At home without Diouf (not sparkys fault ??) and Huth we have looked less muscular and more of a soft touch ,and without Butland I am not sure the league table would show any progress ?? who knows ??? Butland isn't the reason we've finished ninth the last two years is he? No, N'Zonzi was....
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 29, 2016 15:37:55 GMT
Standard answer from every manager. Doesn't antagonise anyone and keeps every option only Would rather "I'm going no where" Dead right. That statement rang alarm bells for me. i think he's just showing Martinez the respect of not addressing it either way. even if he says "I'm staying here" then he's implying that he also thinks Martinez IS off and it IS a situation he'll have to consider. i think the way he answered it is nothing but professionalism and, as he said himself, refusing to say anything whatsoever as it's someone's current job they're talking about ending. doesn't ring any alarm bells for me at all, just show me how utterly anti petty gossip and rumour mill Hughes is i.e. the way it should be for someone in his position.
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 29, 2016 15:43:47 GMT
Considerable dissenters to Hughes reign? Basically implying you never wanted him here in the first place so wait for the first sign of things going wrong before showing your cards. Why did you not express your doubts when we were winning ? Have a ganders at his posting history mate It's pathetic Considerable dissenters = a couple of people who haven't posted since the last time we had a dodgy run, including one previously banned lunatic who probably resents his own mother for not being Tony Pulis. I'm just surprised Ianrb1 hasn't logged in for the first time since we shipped eight goals in two games at Newcastle and Spurs.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 29, 2016 15:45:06 GMT
Dead right. That statement rang alarm bells for me. i think he's just showing Martinez the respect of not addressing it either way. even if he says "I'm staying here" then he's implying that he also thinks Martinez IS off and it IS a situation he'll have to consider. i think the way he answered it is nothing but professionalism and, as he said himself, refusing to say anything whatsoever as it's someone's current job they're talking about ending. doesn't ring any alarm bells for me at all, just show me how utterly anti petty gossip and rumour mill Hughes is i.e. the way it should be for someone in his position. You might be right; Hughes strikes me as a classy bloke all round.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 29, 2016 15:46:40 GMT
i think he's just showing Martinez the respect of not addressing it either way. even if he says "I'm staying here" then he's implying that he also thinks Martinez IS off and it IS a situation he'll have to consider. i think the way he answered it is nothing but professionalism and, as he said himself, refusing to say anything whatsoever as it's someone's current job they're talking about ending. doesn't ring any alarm bells for me at all, just show me how utterly anti petty gossip and rumour mill Hughes is i.e. the way it should be for someone in his position. You might be right; Hughes strikes me as a classy bloke all round. yeah and i really think he genuinely dislikes media bullshit (especially when his press conference should be about Stoke and our game rather than Everton and their manager) just looks like managerial solidarity
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 15:53:06 GMT
Well David Moyes was in the Waddington Suite against Spurs as was Roy Keane but imagine he was looking at Whelan & Co He's watched us quite a few times this season.
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Post by roostershair on Apr 29, 2016 15:53:18 GMT
Brendans got nice teeth though
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Post by reddipotter on Apr 29, 2016 15:57:42 GMT
Dead right. That statement rang alarm bells for me. i think he's just showing Martinez the respect of not addressing it either way. even if he says "I'm staying here" then he's implying that he also thinks Martinez IS off and it IS a situation he'll have to consider. i think the way he answered it is nothing but professionalism and, as he said himself, refusing to say anything whatsoever as it's someone's current job they're talking about ending. doesn't ring any alarm bells for me at all, just show me how utterly anti petty gossip and rumour mill Hughes is i.e. the way it should be for someone in his position. You may be right, though I don't really understand why "I'm staying here" implies anything about Martinez. As it is, his comment doesn't put the issue to bed, as shown by the differing interpretations in this thread.
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