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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 28, 2016 20:34:36 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 20:37:17 GMT
Yes it was and yes you have been by the look of it . I haven't touched a drop mate. You just didn't get the reference. You must have been 'in Saigon' then as well. I look forward to your next fairy story anyway. Eh? ... what you on about? I was genuinely intrigued in your censorship reference ... is it too clever for me. As regards your ref to Saigon .. I travel extensively with myjob. Spend weeks in China and S.E.A. It'd not a question of internet access as some person said this week ..it's a question of priorities and if I'm bothered.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 20:41:50 GMT
Pelligrini or Coleman seem quite suitable candidates for the Everton job anyway. Who would you think? Pellegrini would be perfect for them. Coleman wouldn't get that job in his dreams. Coleman has been approached.
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Post by werrington on Apr 28, 2016 20:44:34 GMT
Pellegrini would be perfect for them. Coleman wouldn't get that job in his dreams. Coleman has been approached. So you know this but the media networks with extensive internal contacts are not reporting it ? Cmon mate give it a rest eh
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 28, 2016 20:46:06 GMT
Surely a side ways move for Hughes and if we are honest is Hughes any better than what they already have, maybe a little but neither have proved to be world beaters, both have done reasonable jobs in former management and both have had their shockers too. Both managers struggle to build their own successful teams and are naive tactically. Hughes led a blackburn side whose only ambition was to avoid relegation into a top 6 finish, just 4 points below the Champions League spots, & a Europa League Quarter finals. That was & remains one of the greatest managerial accomplishments in the premier league. Surely more than just a reasonable job. He had a shocker at QPR but then again so did 'Arry. The club is just terribly run. I am no statto but I think he inherited a decent set of players at Blackburn and did he not also have the money from the Jack Walker legacy to hand, so, yes, a good achievment, but not sure about one of the greatest managerial accomplishments, but I stand to be corrected on all fronts about that one. Again I am no statto, but I am pretty sure Fulham, QPR & Blackburn all got relegated not long after his departure from these clubs, which would suggest he does not neccessarily leave behind the strongest of legacies/squads, although this is probably being crotesquely unfair to him as he personally had good records at both Fulham and Blackburn and, of course, now Stoke
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Post by stokefc on Apr 28, 2016 20:50:42 GMT
Pellegrini would be perfect for them. Coleman wouldn't get that job in his dreams. Coleman has been approached. has Martinez been sacked then I,ve not heard owt but I aint got ssn on be a bit shitty approaching someone before sacking the manager
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 20:50:56 GMT
Coleman has been approached. So you know this but the media networks with extensive internal contacts are not reporting it ? Cmon mate give it a rest eh Only telling you what I have been told mate.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 20:52:18 GMT
Pellegrini would be perfect for them. Coleman wouldn't get that job in his dreams. Coleman has been approached. What's your escape route going to be when his name doesn't even come up for that job?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 20:52:29 GMT
Coleman has been approached. has Martinez been sacked then I,ve not heard owt but I aint got ssn on be a bit shitty approaching someone before sacking the manager You are joking ? Aren't you?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 20:56:11 GMT
Hughes led a blackburn side whose only ambition was to avoid relegation into a top 6 finish, just 4 points below the Champions League spots, & a Europa League Quarter finals. That was & remains one of the greatest managerial accomplishments in the premier league. Surely more than just a reasonable job. He had a shocker at QPR but then again so did 'Arry. The club is just terribly run. I am no statto but I think he inherited a decent set of players at Blackburn and did he not also have the money from the Jack Walker legacy to hand, so, yes, a good achievment, but not sure about one of the greatest managerial accomplishments, but I stand to be corrected on all fronts about that one. Again I am no statto, but I am pretty sure Fulham, QPR & Blackburn all got relegated not long after his departure from these clubs, which would suggest he does not neccessarily leave behind the strongest of legacies/squads, although this is probably being crotesquely unfair to him as he personally had good records at both Fulham and Blackburn and, of course, now Stoke Fulham got relegated three years after his departure. Blackburn got relegated four years after he left. His best buys at Blackburn were relatively cheap and the vast majority of successes in his time there were Hughes signings - Nelsen, Samba, Bentley, Pedersen, Bellamy, McCarthy, Santa Cruz...
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 20:56:41 GMT
Coleman has been approached. What's your escape route going to be when his name doesn't even come up for that job? Why? Does that mean he hasn't been approached.
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Post by stokefc on Apr 28, 2016 20:57:02 GMT
has Martinez been sacked then I,ve not heard owt but I aint got ssn on be a bit shitty approaching someone before sacking the manager You are joking ? Aren't you? no I onna , I,ve not read all the thread and had no sports news on, so , has been sacked?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 21:00:32 GMT
What's your escape route going to be when his name doesn't even come up for that job? Why? Does that mean he hasn't been approached. Yes. I have no inside information whatsoever, but I'm thinking no, he hasn't been. I'm thinking Everton might be thinking slightly bigger than a man whose biggest achievement in club football was one top half finish 12 years ago.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 21:03:41 GMT
You are joking ? Aren't you? no I onna , I,ve not read all the thread and had no sports news on, so , has been sacked? Sorry mate..I meant about approaching another manager before the existing one's been sacked. It probably happens in 50% of managerial ins and outs.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 28, 2016 21:05:15 GMT
Hughes wouldn't leave us for Everton.
He would only leave if he felt there is nothing else to achieve, and even then it would only be for a big challenge, either a team regularly in Europe, or a club whose fans won't want him sacked if he doesn't win 'in style' every week eg Everton
There is a lot of work for him to do at Stoke
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 28, 2016 21:05:22 GMT
Why? Does that mean he hasn't been approached. Yes. I have no inside information whatsoever, but I'm thinking no, he hasn't been. I'm thinking Everton might be thinking slightly bigger than a man whose biggest achievement in club football was one top half finish 12 years ago. You haven't answered the question.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 28, 2016 21:08:04 GMT
Yes. I have no inside information whatsoever, but I'm thinking no, he hasn't been. I'm thinking Everton might be thinking slightly bigger than a man whose biggest achievement in club football was one top half finish 12 years ago. You haven't answered the question. I don't think Everton have approached him, no. Why would they? The job he's done with Wales doesn't make him a good club manager and his track record doesn't suggest he's anything other than a bang average one.
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Post by stokefc on Apr 28, 2016 21:12:40 GMT
no I onna , I,ve not read all the thread and had no sports news on, so , has been sacked? Sorry mate..I meant about approaching another manager before the existing one's been sacked. It probably happens in 50% of managerial ins and outs. I know that mate but making it known openly before sacking the manager is shitty in my book
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 28, 2016 21:19:35 GMT
Hughes led a blackburn side whose only ambition was to avoid relegation into a top 6 finish, just 4 points below the Champions League spots, & a Europa League Quarter finals. That was & remains one of the greatest managerial accomplishments in the premier league. Surely more than just a reasonable job. He had a shocker at QPR but then again so did 'Arry. The club is just terribly run. I am no statto but I think he inherited a decent set of players at Blackburn and did he not also have the money from the Jack Walker legacy to hand, so, yes, a good achievment, but not sure about one of the greatest managerial accomplishments, but I stand to be corrected on all fronts about that one. Again I am no statto, but I am pretty sure Fulham, QPR & Blackburn all got relegated not long after his departure from these clubs, which would suggest he does not neccessarily leave behind the strongest of legacies/squads, although this is probably being crotesquely unfair to him as he personally had good records at both Fulham and Blackburn and, of course, now Stoke The season before Hughes came Blackburn finished dangerously close to the relegation zone in 16th just 2 points above relegation zone.
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Post by yellowfang on Apr 28, 2016 21:25:13 GMT
Are Everton the Newcastle in waiting? history is no defence to the gravity train, once you're on it it's tough to get off. High expectations from the fans makes it a toxic job in many ways. Still I can see Rafa taking it. Hughes to Everton.........I'll drive him there myself ........Raffa to Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 22:12:03 GMT
Hughes seems to have a great team with him and would probably take them with him if he left. If there were a way for hughes to leave and his team to stay, then i wouldn't care too much. His managing skills have been questionable this season. I can't remember him getting too much right. I would happily see him replaced with brendan rodgers.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 28, 2016 22:15:48 GMT
Hughes seems to have a great team with him and would probably take them with him if he left. If there were a way for hughes to leave and his team to stay, then i wouldn't care too much. His managing skills have been questionable this season. I can't remember him getting too much right. I would happily see him replaced with brendan rodgers. No
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Apr 28, 2016 22:35:08 GMT
Brendan Rogers.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 28, 2016 23:32:08 GMT
Hughes led a blackburn side whose only ambition was to avoid relegation into a top 6 finish, just 4 points below the Champions League spots, & a Europa League Quarter finals. That was & remains one of the greatest managerial accomplishments in the premier league. Surely more than just a reasonable job. He had a shocker at QPR but then again so did 'Arry. The club is just terribly run. I am no statto but I think he inherited a decent set of players at Blackburn and did he not also have the money from the Jack Walker legacy to hand, so, yes, a good achievment, but not sure about one of the greatest managerial accomplishments, but I stand to be corrected on all fronts about that one. Again I am no statto, but I am pretty sure Fulham, QPR & Blackburn all got relegated not long after his departure from these clubs, which would suggest he does not neccessarily leave behind the strongest of legacies/squads, although this is probably being crotesquely unfair to him as he personally had good records at both Fulham and Blackburn and, of course, now Stoke Thanks for your support, mate. I tactfully tried to put this point of view that Hughes hasn't accomplished much of anything yet, largely because he's has either left of his own accord or been sacked within three years of being hired. I sincerely hope he's given another year to finish what he's started at Stoke and show something for his efforts. If he leaves now we'll be in a mess because we have a bunch of new players who came to Stoke largely because of Hughes - the rest are either crocked, at the end of their shelf life or both.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 1:37:19 GMT
Seems like nonsense to me, some arrogant scouser somewhere thinking they are a massive club and can take other Premier League managers away just by expressing an interest.
Seems just like when they were shocked Shaqiri didn't bite their hand off for a possible loan move to sign for a permanent deal with a club that finished above them in the league.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Apr 29, 2016 1:45:26 GMT
I am no statto but I think he inherited a decent set of players at Blackburn and did he not also have the money from the Jack Walker legacy to hand, so, yes, a good achievment, but not sure about one of the greatest managerial accomplishments, but I stand to be corrected on all fronts about that one. Again I am no statto, but I am pretty sure Fulham, QPR & Blackburn all got relegated not long after his departure from these clubs, which would suggest he does not neccessarily leave behind the strongest of legacies/squads, although this is probably being crotesquely unfair to him as he personally had good records at both Fulham and Blackburn and, of course, now Stoke Thanks for your support, mate. I tactfully tried to put this point of view that Hughes hasn't accomplished much of anything yet, largely because he's has either left of his own accord or been sacked within three years of being hired. I sincerely hope he's given another year to finish what he's started at Stoke and show something for his efforts. If he leaves now we'll be in a mess because we have a bunch of new players who came to Stoke largely because of Hughes - the rest are either crocked, at the end of their shelf life or both. Personally think that three top 10 finishes is a huge achievement,plus being able to attract top players to the club who we could have never dream't of before Be careful of what you wish for
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Post by kustokie on Apr 29, 2016 2:39:42 GMT
Thanks for your support, mate. I tactfully tried to put this point of view that Hughes hasn't accomplished much of anything yet, largely because he's has either left of his own accord or been sacked within three years of being hired. I sincerely hope he's given another year to finish what he's started at Stoke and show something for his efforts. If he leaves now we'll be in a mess because we have a bunch of new players who came to Stoke largely because of Hughes - the rest are either crocked, at the end of their shelf life or both. Personally think that three top 10 finishes is a huge achievement,plus being able to attract top players to the club who we could have never dream't of before Be careful of what you wish for We will have to agree to disagree that three top 10 finishes is a huge achievement. Very good - yes, huge achievement - no. However, as I said, the last thing I wish for is for Hughes to leave because "we'll be in a mess". My wish is that he is given one more season to "put up" or "shut up".
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Post by Do it for dobing on Apr 29, 2016 3:03:16 GMT
The first thing is we never achieved this level before and the squad is stronger than ever
I would say he has over achieved up to this point. What were your expectations when he came top 6!
Certainly he will want to improve but up to now its been good.
"Put up" or "shut up" god knows what you mean! Perhaps you should speak to some Villa fans for a sense of reality
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 29, 2016 4:47:35 GMT
Isn't our tone out of contract at west brom at the end of the season .................
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 5:15:41 GMT
Thanks for your support, mate. I tactfully tried to put this point of view that Hughes hasn't accomplished much of anything yet, largely because he's has either left of his own accord or been sacked within three years of being hired. I sincerely hope he's given another year to finish what he's started at Stoke and show something for his efforts. If he leaves now we'll be in a mess because we have a bunch of new players who came to Stoke largely because of Hughes - the rest are either crocked, at the end of their shelf life or both. Personally think that three top 10 finishes is a huge achievement,plus being able to attract top players to the club who we could have never dream't of before Be careful of what you wish for Just what I was thinking. We do need a reality check. A lot of fans seem to think we are plying football manager and can swap and change to our hearts content and all will be rosey
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