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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 18, 2016 21:56:54 GMT
I'm sorry, guys, but tonight we were shambolic. We had no shape, no attack, no defence and no idea.
Wollsheid was poor, Afellay passed backwards more in one game than N'Zonzi ďid in his Stoke City appearances combined and we were clueless going forward.
I was as anti-Pulis as anyone apart from Pugsley and Jarhead, but this was abysmal. We have gone backwards this season, and only the lack of quality in the Premier League has enabled us to finish mid table.
We have had a few brilliant performances, but we have avoided several dickings due to Butland and good luck.
I expect to be shot down, but I was fucking embarrassed tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 22:29:44 GMT
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 22:54:05 GMT
I agree
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Post by kustokie on Apr 18, 2016 22:56:42 GMT
I'm sorry, guys, but tonight we were shambolic. We had no shape, no attack, no defence and no idea. Wollsheid was poor, Afellay passed backwards more in one game than N'Zonzi ďid in his Stoke City appearances combined and we were clueless going forward. I was as anti-Pulis as anyone apart from Pugsley and Jarhead, but this was abysmal. We have gone backwards this season, and only the lack of quality in the Premier League has enabled us to finish mid table. We have had a few brilliant performances, but we have avoided several dickings due to Butland and good luck. I expect to be shot down, but I was fucking embarrassed tonght. He can only make good forward passes if someone is moving off the ball. My bowels move faster and I have more to show for it.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 18, 2016 23:12:02 GMT
Boring football. Not only is it boring it's fucking wank as well. Sort it fucking out and quick.
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Post by jzime on Apr 19, 2016 1:41:43 GMT
Afellay was one of the only players to come out of that match with some credit, tbh. He was passing backwards because there were no other passes on. At least he looked like he gave a shit about closing a man down, unlike Imbula for large periods of the match.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 19, 2016 2:09:00 GMT
We played the best team I've seen in the Premiership with at least 3 first choice players missing and a few other carrying knocks.
The game was huge for them whilst we didn't really have anything to play for.
We were poor.
This season we will pick up, as a minimum, our third highest points total in the Premier League.
We could still have our best league season since 1975.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 19, 2016 5:45:58 GMT
I'm sorry, guys, but tonight we were shambolic. We had no shape, no attack, no defence and no idea. Wollsheid was poor, Afellay passed backwards more in one game than N'Zonzi ďid in his Stoke City appearances combined and we were clueless going forward. I was as anti-Pulis as anyone apart from Pugsley and Jarhead, but this was abysmal. We have gone backwards this season, and only the lack of quality in the Premier League has enabled us to finish mid table. We have had a few brilliant performances, but we have avoided several dickings due to Butland and good luck. I expect to be shot down, but I was fucking embarrassed tonght. Hasn't jack made the most saves in the prem , it could have been 7 last night but then again we have beaten Liverpool 6 and should have put six past man city , that's football I suppose and we had no desire last night and we are like barca one week and as last night showed a pub side the next week with no consistancy at al
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 5:48:53 GMT
Spurs were kind to us, they should have won 6 or 7.
Talk about one team going forward and the other backwards.
We need the season to end now and change some personal over the summer.
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Post by roostershair on Apr 19, 2016 5:53:37 GMT
Afellay was one of the only players to come out of that match with some credit, tbh. He was passing backwards because there were no other passes on. At least he looked like he gave a shit about closing a man down, unlike Imbula for large periods of the match. Agree
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 6:10:31 GMT
Afellay was one of the only players to come out of that match with some credit, tbh. He was passing backwards because there were no other passes on. At least he looked like he gave a shit about closing a man down, unlike Imbula for large periods of the match. Given didn't do bad, nothing he could do about the goals and his kicking was excellent. I still can't get over how bad our back 4 was.
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Post by kurt on Apr 19, 2016 6:38:44 GMT
Afellay was one of the only players to come out of that match with some credit, tbh. He was passing backwards because there were no other passes on. At least he looked like he gave a shit about closing a man down, unlike Imbula for large periods of the match. Afellay has his qualities, but i think he has the WORST SHOT of all 3 Enlish top football leagues. He tries it from 25 m, from 18 m or from 8 m distance to the goal....................HE ALWAYS MISSES THE GOAL!!! It always looks for me, like an 8 year old boy tries to shoot
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2016 8:17:19 GMT
Afellay is not the solution and very much part of the problem.
He probably was one of the better players last night but he epitomises what's wrong with how this side are trying to play football.
I still can't see past him being a fantastic option from the bench when we're winning to keep the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 8:20:02 GMT
I actually thought Afellay did well, he was battling showed desire to win the ball in the middle of the park.
Strange that you would point the finger at him when there were so called bigger players who already looked like they were on holiday.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 19, 2016 8:29:15 GMT
This is it. This should keep him going for a bit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2016 8:31:46 GMT
I actually thought Afellay did well, he was battling showed desire to win the ball in the middle of the park. Strange that you would point the finger at him when there were so called bigger players who already looked like they were on holiday. I thought he was our best outfield player. But he's there to break sides down and attack, something he can't do that well. He's the creative player in central midfield and we have no creativity...... A fact that gets overlooked because he was probably the best player but he's very much part of the problem and not the exception. As for Imbula, I'm still a bit too angry with him to write rationally.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Apr 19, 2016 9:24:34 GMT
We played the best team I've seen in the Premiership with at least 3 first choice players missing and a few other carrying knocks. The game was huge for them whilst we didn't really have anything to play for. Not having anything to play for isn't an excuse for forgetting how to run and pass a ball properly.
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Post by kurt on Apr 19, 2016 9:28:40 GMT
Afellay is good in building up an attack, he has a good technique and tackles sometimes well
...but he should reduce his pirouettes and practize shooting
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 19, 2016 10:05:50 GMT
I actually thought Afellay did well, he was battling showed desire to win the ball in the middle of the park. Strange that you would point the finger at him when there were so called bigger players who already looked like they were on holiday. He tried, that's true. I was just pissed off with the amount of time his first thought was to pass backwards, and wondered why N'Zonzi got pelters for it and Afellay doesn't seem to. Oh, I agree about other players being worse, there were too many to list! Shaquiri was atrocious, for one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2016 10:08:30 GMT
I actually thought Afellay did well, he was battling showed desire to win the ball in the middle of the park. Strange that you would point the finger at him when there were so called bigger players who already looked like they were on holiday. He tried, that's true. I was just pissed off with the amount of time his first thought was to pass backwards, and wondered why N'Zonzi got pelters for it and Afellay doesn't seem to. Oh, I agree about other players being worse, there were too many to list! Shaquiri was atrocious, for one. When it was actually part of N'Zonzi's job and it isn't really part of Afellay's unless he's playing the deeper midfield role, which he hasn't been. It's a funny one.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 19, 2016 10:09:58 GMT
I actually thought Afellay did well, he was battling showed desire to win the ball in the middle of the park. Strange that you would point the finger at him when there were so called bigger players who already looked like they were on holiday. I thought he was our best outfield player. But he's there to break sides down and attack, something he can't do that well. He's the creative player in central midfield and we have no creativity...... A fact that gets overlooked because he was probably the best player but he's very much part of the problem and not the exception. As for Imbula, I'm still a bit too angry with him to write rationally. If Afellay is our only creative midfielder, what's Imbula supposed to be? What's Bojan supposed to be? What's Arnie, Shaqiri supposed to be? You're doing it again Bayern and I'm pretty surprised the op has decided to feed your massive ego. Afellay was about the only one who put in a shift tonight. How can you expect him to be creative, when there was fuck all in front of him. He's about the only player who didn't look like he was on a beach somewhere.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2016 10:15:19 GMT
I thought he was our best outfield player. But he's there to break sides down and attack, something he can't do that well. He's the creative player in central midfield and we have no creativity...... A fact that gets overlooked because he was probably the best player but he's very much part of the problem and not the exception. As for Imbula, I'm still a bit too angry with him to write rationally. If Afellay is our only creative midfielder, what's Imbula supposed to be? What's Bojan supposed to be? What's Arnie, Shaqiri supposed to be? You're doing it again Bayern and I'm pretty surprised the op has decided to feed your massive ego. Afellay was about the only one who put in a shift tonight. How can you expect him to be creative, when there was fuck all in front of him. He's about the only player who didn't look like he was on a beach somewhere. Imbula is meant to link the defence and the creative players. Bojan last night was the striker. Shaq last time I looked wasn't a central midfielder. Afellay did but there's no coincidence that we've got worse and created less since he moved further up the pitch centrally. It's another case of people being unable to see past the end of their noses. This whole situation is, last night is nothing new.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 19, 2016 10:18:02 GMT
Afellay was one of the only players to come out of that match with some credit, tbh. He was passing backwards because there were no other passes on. At least he looked like he gave a shit about closing a man down, unlike Imbula for large periods of the match. Afellay has his qualities, but i think he has the WORST SHOT of all 3 Enlish top football leagues. He tries it from 25 m, from 18 m or from 8 m distance to the goal....................HE ALWAYS MISSES THE GOAL!!! It always looks for me, like an 8 year old boy tries to shoot Reminds me of the majority of whelans shots in his stoke career.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 19, 2016 10:20:32 GMT
If Afellay is our only creative midfielder, what's Imbula supposed to be? What's Bojan supposed to be? What's Arnie, Shaqiri supposed to be? You're doing it again Bayern and I'm pretty surprised the op has decided to feed your massive ego. Afellay was about the only one who put in a shift tonight. How can you expect him to be creative, when there was fuck all in front of him. He's about the only player who didn't look like he was on a beach somewhere. Imbula is meant to link the defence and the creative players. Bojan last night was the striker. Shaq last time I looked wasn't a central midfielder. Afellay did but there's no coincidence that we've got worse and created less since he moved further up the pitch centrally. It's another case of people being unable to see past the end of their noses. This whole situation is, last night is nothing new. Was Bojan the striker, or was he the false number 9? If he's the false number 9 then surely he's also expected to drop back and add a creative bite to that midfield. If he was an out and out striker then, well, that's a baffling decision. I never said Shaq was a creative midfield, but fuck me Bayern you're sat there typing shit like "look at Stoke, we're not creative and it's all Afellay's fault" hold on a sec? You can't expect one player to be creative. You're taking the term 'playmaker' and stretching it ever so slightly mate. Afellay for me, is a better player in the deeper role, but that's not to suggest he performed badly last night and closing in on him, when I reckon 6 other players should be getting a dressing down is missing the point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 19, 2016 10:25:05 GMT
Imbula is meant to link the defence and the creative players. Bojan last night was the striker. Shaq last time I looked wasn't a central midfielder. Afellay did but there's no coincidence that we've got worse and created less since he moved further up the pitch centrally. It's another case of people being unable to see past the end of their noses. This whole situation is, last night is nothing new. Was Bojan the striker, or was he the false number 9? If he's the false number 9 then surely he's also expected to drop back and add a creative bite to that midfield. If he was an out and out striker then, well, that's a baffling decision. I never said Shaq was a creative midfield, but fuck me Bayern you're sat there typing shit like "look at Stoke, we're not creative and it's all Afellay's fault" hold on a sec? You can't expect one player to be creative. You're taking the term 'playmaker' and stretching it ever so slightly mate. Afellay for me, is a better player in the deeper role, but that's not to suggest he performed badly last night and closing in on him, when I reckon 6 other players should be getting a dressing down is missing the point. Fuck knows what he was, I hate that false 9 bollocks for the reasons it didn't work last night. I specifically said in the post quoted "central midfielders" for this very reason. Because I'm not blaming it all on Afellay and was focussing on the midfield, who's job it is to move the ball quickly to those player out wide. They're not doing that. And Afellay's movement is crap too and is part of the problem, like Shaq's and Arnie's is. Oh he is by far, it suits his game to a tee. He played badly, no one played well, he was however the least shit. It's not missing the point at all, it's looking at the picture and looking back over what's happened before.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 19, 2016 10:27:23 GMT
I thought he was our best outfield player. But he's there to break sides down and attack, something he can't do that well. He's the creative player in central midfield and we have no creativity...... A fact that gets overlooked because he was probably the best player but he's very much part of the problem and not the exception. As for Imbula, I'm still a bit too angry with him to write rationally. If Afellay is our only creative midfielder, what's Imbula supposed to be? What's Bojan supposed to be? What's Arnie, Shaqiri supposed to be? You're doing it again Bayern and I'm pretty surprised the op has decided to feed your massive ego. Afellay was about the only one who put in a shift tonight. How can you expect him to be creative, when there was fuck all in front of him. He's about the only player who didn't look like he was on a beach somewhere. I didn't intend to feed his "massive ego", but I think he has been right on some issues. It was meant to be a jokey thread title. I also didn't mean to single Afellay out and agree he showed passion and fight. The fact that "there was fuck all in front of him" is both valid and worrying.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 19, 2016 10:43:13 GMT
If Afellay is our only creative midfielder, what's Imbula supposed to be? What's Bojan supposed to be? What's Arnie, Shaqiri supposed to be? You're doing it again Bayern and I'm pretty surprised the op has decided to feed your massive ego. Afellay was about the only one who put in a shift tonight. How can you expect him to be creative, when there was fuck all in front of him. He's about the only player who didn't look like he was on a beach somewhere. I didn't intend to feed his "massive ego", but I think he has been right on some issues. It was meant to be a jokey thread title. I also didn't mean to single Afellay out and agree he showed passion and fight. The fact that "there was fuck all in front of him" is both valid and worrying. In more ways than one.
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Post by cozmick on Apr 19, 2016 10:46:09 GMT
Pulis hoofball got us into the box more often than not.
Hughes' passing it square tactics get us fucking nowhere.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 19, 2016 10:49:04 GMT
I didn't intend to feed his "massive ego", but I think he has been right on some issues. It was meant to be a jokey thread title. I also didn't mean to single Afellay out and agree he showed passion and fight. The fact that "there was fuck all in front of him" is both valid and worrying. In more ways than one. Eh?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 10:50:31 GMT
Pulis hoofball got us into the box more often than not. Hughes' passing it square tactics get us fucking nowhere. Yet somehow Hughes' passing it square tactics consistently get us more points than under the Pulis era?
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