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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 18, 2016 21:24:50 GMT
Shame these Edl memberships don't include a night school in punctuation hey? dyslexia is a blight, not sure about stupidity it may in your case be hereditary. Dyslexia? Yeah? I don't normally like to mock the afflicted, but I'll make an exception.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 18, 2016 21:26:25 GMT
To be fair to wd, 'wank' covers covers it pretty well, and not for the first home game this season. I briefly deliberated being more eloquent but then decided "wank" was more fitting for that diabolical showing today. It was the first word that came to mind for me.
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Post by saraneus on Apr 18, 2016 21:28:07 GMT
What you have to remember is that Stoke have not had a full squad all season, far from it. It's very similar to last season. After Christmas last year, we had to pick reserve squad members for defense. We are now playing only 2 first teamers in defense and goal, and one of them had been injured for much of the season. Hughes has to remember that with such a weakened side due to injuries and comebacks from injuries he can't play the squad how he is doing. It's an invitation to get beat 4-0! He needs to go traditional. 5:3:2 maybe and go for the counter when the other side is drawn in. Stop being fooled by the likes of Leicester and Tottenham who hold back and then strike with potency. Stop playing players out of position. Given Cameron, Shawcross, Wolly, Muniesa Imbula Shaqiri, Bojan, Afellay Arnautovic Joselu |
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Post by MadridStokie on Apr 18, 2016 21:28:16 GMT
Exposed by a big lack of pace through the team - we got exposed for pace through midfield and down our flanks (in short, everywhere !). This needs addressing big time - as someone said above by our midfield and flanks being cut to shreds with their pace coming forward it made life very very difficult for Shawcross/Wolly and also Whelan in front of those 2. Muniesa not good enough as a LB nor Cameron as a RB against a team playing as well as they did down their flanks. I thought Affelay was our best player but defensively in terms of tracking back, he, Imbula and Whelan looked like they were running through treacle where the Spurs midfield just ghosted past them. And, yet again, we really struggle against a side that presses us not just high up the pitch but all over the pitch - they had the pace and desire to press us throughout the whole match. In short, a big well done to Spurs, having watched them a few times they are surely playing the best football in the league but that might not be enough for the title for them. I would like to see them do it - I have something against a team that has gone into administration (Leicester) and left lots of people out of pocket (and probably HMRC too i.e. we have paid for them) who then go on to win the league. We need to regroup, accept we were beaten by an excellent performance from an excellent team gelling so well at the moment and work out our weaknesses. We are also clearly impacted by our inability to field the same starting 11 for consecutive matches - something both Spurs and Leicester have been able to do - and it shows. Let´s hope we can battle back to not let the season completely peter out but we need to focus on sorting out a few key issues in the summer. The fact you want Spurs to win the league ahead of a club our size is outrageous for a proper Stoke fan and I stopped reading your jaundiced opinion at that point. Fuck Spurs, they are a massive club and if they win the league it doesn't give any more hope for us than we have ever had. It may as well be Manchester, Chelsea or Arsenal it's no different. BM Of course I disagree with you - I don´t consider Tottenham to be one of the top 4, they have never won the PL - I really have an issue with a club winning the PL that went out of business owing a lot of people a lot of money and were able to wipe the slate clean at their expense and then come back without having to pay their dues. But hey, that´s just my opinion, I accept that.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:28:24 GMT
Edl meeting where was it sorry missed that shame, I would imagine there would have been more passion than we have just witnessed, did you enjoy our masterful defensive display ? marshalled admirably by our potential Player of the season and rock of our defence PW we should without doubt build our future defence around this mercurial talent. [br Ryan was just as bad.The only winners tonight are the Wooly haters. It's nights like this you crave. Go fill your boots.. Ryan has an excuse he is not fit, however next season he will be fit, wolfy is not good enough next season he still will not be good enough, that is the difference simple really.
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Post by trentvale68 on Apr 18, 2016 21:29:53 GMT
Must be time for a William Shatner tantrum video!!
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 18, 2016 21:30:25 GMT
[br Ryan was just as bad.The only winners tonight are the Wooly haters. It's nights like this you crave. Go fill your boots.. Ryan has an excuse he is not fit, however next season he will be fit, wolfy is not good enough next season he still will not be good enough, that is the difference simple really. I am glad you are here as the club doctor to tell us which players are fit and which are not, if only Hughes would listen to you!
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Post by nott1 on Apr 18, 2016 21:31:01 GMT
[br Ryan was just as bad.The only winners tonight are the Wooly haters. It's nights like this you crave. Go fill your boots.. Ryan has an excuse he is not fit, however next season he will be fit, wolfy is not good enough next season he still will not be good enough, that is the difference simple really. Spot on but why don't some see this?
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Post by blakngreen on Apr 18, 2016 21:31:46 GMT
Probably not but I'm struggling to see who he would put in there at the moment. Even a half fit Ryan is better than some of our other options. And who's fault ultimately is that ? No idea fella, Ryan would probably want to play if he had 1 leg. Hindsight is a wonderful thing as regards your favourite topic and not forgetting the lack of extra CBs at the club. But I'll back Mark Hughes to sort it, despite what I am seeing at the moment. Let's be honest it isn't pretty.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:32:18 GMT
dyslexia is a blight, not sure about stupidity it may in your case be hereditary. Dyslexia? Yeah? I don't normally like to mock the afflicted, but I'll make an exception. Covered by the old DDA act, TAPS however is not sorry if you are struggling Thick--Pig -- just fill in the blanks even you should be able to decipher that one
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:35:14 GMT
Ryan has an excuse he is not fit, however next season he will be fit, wolfy is not good enough next season he still will not be good enough, that is the difference simple really. I am glad you are here as the club doctor to tell us which players are fit and which are not, if only Hughes would listen to you! Did you watch the last two games , you do not need to be a doctor to see that it was as plain as the nose on your face.
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Post by algor on Apr 18, 2016 21:35:52 GMT
Fuck you!! We have conceded 10 goals in 3 games, suffered our worst away result this season and our worst ever home defeat in the prem! This on top of chucking away a 2 goal lead to Swansea. Who do you think you are calling fans weak for daring to question what is going on at the moment you patronizing prick! 'Scuse me love, not to say anything, but I think you've pissed your knickers. Oh do grow up! Fans are worried about several recent really poor results, some of the worst we have ever had at this level but you just abuse anyone who dares to question the management about this, you sir are prick, plain and simple!
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 18, 2016 21:37:59 GMT
Dyslexia? Yeah? I don't normally like to mock the afflicted, but I'll make an exception. Covered by the old DDA act, TAPS however is not sorry if you are struggling Thick--Pig -- just fill in the blanks even you should be able to decipher that one Fucking hell cletus, you're cured!! Look if you haven't got enough money to attend stoke matches, I could borrow you some. I do give to other charities.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:38:52 GMT
And who's fault ultimately is that ? No idea fella, Ryan would probably want to play if he had 1 leg. Hindsight is a wonderful thing as regards your favourite topic and not forgetting the lack of extra CBs at the club. But I'll back Mark Hughes to sort it, despite what I am seeing at the moment. Let's be honest it isn't pretty. Not really hindsight fella just common sense he knew what could happen, and no it is pretty ugly.
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 18, 2016 21:40:14 GMT
'Scuse me love, not to say anything, but I think you've pissed your knickers. Oh do grow up! Fans are worried about several recent really poor results, some of the worst we have ever had at this level but you just abuse anyone who dares to question the management about this, you sir are prick, plain and simple! And you madam, have wet yourself... again.
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Post by ianstokie on Apr 18, 2016 21:41:39 GMT
Lack of pace? No. Lack of ideas? Yes. I do like Mark Hughes, but I think he needs another sidekick to help with tactics.
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 18, 2016 21:41:50 GMT
I am glad you are here as the club doctor to tell us which players are fit and which are not, if only Hughes would listen to you! Did you watch the last two games , you do not need to be a doctor to see that it was as plain as the nose on your face. You ought be making a lot of money, seeing as you can make a decision on someones fitness and health, from your armchair.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:42:44 GMT
Covered by the old DDA act, TAPS however is not sorry if you are struggling Thick--Pig -- just fill in the blanks even you should be able to decipher that one Fucking hell cletus, you're cured!! Look if you haven't got enough money to attend stoke matches, I could borrow you some. I do give to other charities. Sorry thick one you lend money not borrow it to others , you are digging yourself into a hole put your JCB away before you disappear under your own pile of shit.
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 18, 2016 21:43:22 GMT
The fact you want Spurs to win the league ahead of a club our size is outrageous for a proper Stoke fan and I stopped reading your jaundiced opinion at that point. Fuck Spurs, they are a massive club and if they win the league it doesn't give any more hope for us than we have ever had. It may as well be Manchester, Chelsea or Arsenal it's no different. BM Of course I disagree with you - I don´t consider Tottenham to be one of the top 4, they have never won the PL - I really have an issue with a club winning the PL that went out of business owing a lot of people a lot of money and were able to wipe the slate clean at their expense and then come back without having to pay their dues. But hey, that´s just my opinion, I accept that. Sure, and you'd stop supporting Stoke if the same happened to us as Leicester would you? Maybe you could concentrate on your big team then? But just to balance your one eyed view you should know that your beloved Tottenham were allowed to beach rules about the way they paid players without punishment a few years ago now, whilst little Swindon Town got relegated two divisions for the same offence. BM
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Post by algor on Apr 18, 2016 21:43:57 GMT
Oh do grow up! Fans are worried about several recent really poor results, some of the worst we have ever had at this level but you just abuse anyone who dares to question the management about this, you sir are prick, plain and simple! And you madam, have wet yourself... again. Your a boring troll who just repeats yourself, good luck with your agenda.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:45:01 GMT
Did you watch the last two games , you do not need to be a doctor to see that it was as plain as the nose on your face. You ought be making a lot of money, seeing as you can make a decision on someones fitness and health, from your armchair. Made my money duck just finished counting it
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 18, 2016 21:46:13 GMT
And you madam, have wet yourself... again. Your a boring troll who just repeats yourself, good luck with your agenda. Don't forget to wipe your vagina before you go on the Hughes out demo.
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 18, 2016 21:47:13 GMT
You ought be making a lot of money, seeing as you can make a decision on someones fitness and health, from your armchair. Made my money duck just finished counting it Hold up, I thought you couldn't afford to go to matches? Or are you just lazy?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 22:11:43 GMT
Putting all the pathetic wrist slashing feint hearted fans to one side in this thread who think they are Stoke fans I would like to read some sensible comments on the poor performance. Well first of all Tottenham showed quite clearly why they are a possible top of the league team. They have some outstanding individual talent with enormous energy playing with the confidence of an early goal that should have been made more difficult. From that moment Stoke battled hard in the first half but unlike Spurs too many of Stoke's talented offensive players went missing. Arnautovic and Shaqiri were so tame as was Imbula and this also pretty much negated the game of Bojan who was ineffective.Well done to Affelay who never gave up. Wollshied was clearly the better of our defenders but Spurs opened us up on too many occasions. Spurs could have led by three at half time. Stoke started better in the second half but they had to take far too many chances opening the play up. Shawcross is not clearly an England quality player on his performance tonight. He was continually caught ball watching and on too many occasions there was a gap right through the middle of our defence. When the second goal came Stoke fell apart. We looked very frail and our confidence and team work just disappeared. It is quite obvious to conclude that we are not as good as we think we are BUT to all you weak minded Stoke fans. We have acquired 47 points already this year with more games to play. We have beaten Chelsea, Man City ,Man United, and Liverpool away in a Cup Semi Final. We do have quality in the team but as yet we have no consistency. It really hurts when we lose like we did tonight but well done Spurs. Roll on next season where I have every confidence that we have tremendous potential to continue our progress but improvement in the defence is essential. Remember! You could be a Villa supporter! At last, a post made by someone with a real perspective on tonight's game. I'm as disappointed with the result and more so the overall performance of the players, Affelay being the only exception, as the next man tonight. It's hard to take, but looking at the bigger picture we ain't done that bad over the season so far and at least we are safe and can look forward to at least another season's football in the top tier along with some serious money to invest in some new stock. Roll on season 2016 - 2017. Next time around we may just get it right. U T M P
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 22:12:01 GMT
Made my money duck just finished counting it Hold up, I thought you couldn't afford to go to matches? Or are you just lazy? Bone idle now done my bit, plus I have a nasty cold to boot, thought I would take the sensible option and use my Sky subscription for once , thinking of cancelling in the morning I am no lover of Horror shows
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 22:14:43 GMT
Putting all the pathetic wrist slashing feint hearted fans to one side in this thread who think they are Stoke fans I would like to read some sensible comments on the poor performance. Well first of all Tottenham showed quite clearly why they are a possible top of the league team. They have some outstanding individual talent with enormous energy playing with the confidence of an early goal that should have been made more difficult. From that moment Stoke battled hard in the first half but unlike Spurs too many of Stoke's talented offensive players went missing. Arnautovic and Shaqiri were so tame as was Imbula and this also pretty much negated the game of Bojan who was ineffective.Well done to Affelay who never gave up. Wollshied was clearly the better of our defenders but Spurs opened us up on too many occasions. Spurs could have led by three at half time. Stoke started better in the second half but they had to take far too many chances opening the play up. Shawcross is not clearly an England quality player on his performance tonight. He was continually caught ball watching and on too many occasions there was a gap right through the middle of our defence. When the second goal came Stoke fell apart. We looked very frail and our confidence and team work just disappeared. It is quite obvious to conclude that we are not as good as we think we are BUT to all you weak minded Stoke fans. We have acquired 47 points already this year with more games to play. We have beaten Chelsea, Man City ,Man United, and Liverpool away in a Cup Semi Final. We do have quality in the team but as yet we have no consistency. It really hurts when we lose like we did tonight but well done Spurs. Roll on next season where I have every confidence that we have tremendous potential to continue our progress but improvement in the defence is essential. Remember! You could be a Villa supporter! At last, a post made by someone with a real perspective on tonight's game. I'm as disappointed with the result and more so the overall performance of the players, Affelay being the only exception, as the next man tonight. It's hard to take, but looking at the bigger picture we ain't done that bad over the season so far and at least we are safe and can look forward to at least another season's football in the top tier along with some serious money to invest in some new stock. Roll on season 2016 - 2017. Next time around we may just get it right. U T M P Do you trust LMH to make that investment after that ? we have spent a huge amount of money and are worse than last season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 22:24:13 GMT
At last, a post made by someone with a real perspective on tonight's game. I'm as disappointed with the result and more so the overall performance of the players, Affelay being the only exception, as the next man tonight. It's hard to take, but looking at the bigger picture we ain't done that bad over the season so far and at least we are safe and can look forward to at least another season's football in the top tier along with some serious money to invest in some new stock. Roll on season 2016 - 2017. Next time around we may just get it right. U T M P Do you trust LMH to make that investment after that ? we have spent a huge amount of money and are worse than last season. If he's still at the helm carps, yes I do. He has no other options.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 18, 2016 22:32:24 GMT
We missed a great chance to increase our profile in the US (for what it's worth). The NBCSN studio pundits (including Robbie Earle) were in England this weekend show-casing the Premier League at Stamford Bridge, King Power Stadium at the Brit. Good post-match interview with Geoff Cameron who noted that Stoke were poor and played like a team playing for a top 10 place against a team playing for the championship. No excuses from him, pretty much sums it up.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 18, 2016 22:44:29 GMT
At last, a post made by someone with a real perspective on tonight's game. I'm as disappointed with the result and more so the overall performance of the players, Affelay being the only exception, as the next man tonight. It's hard to take, but looking at the bigger picture we ain't done that bad over the season so far and at least we are safe and can look forward to at least another season's football in the top tier along with some serious money to invest in some new stock. Roll on season 2016 - 2017. Next time around we may just get it right. U T M P Do you trust LMH to make that investment after that ? we have spent a huge amount of money and are worse than last season. Hughes has made some bad decisions this season (especially, substitutions). However, this is ride loudly OTT. Pottechino has built a great side that is settled and been playing together for a while. Stoke, on the other hand is a work in progress. Note: - That team has not played together as a unit more than a couple of times - Due to too many injurites - Different line-up virtually every game - Joselu, Affelay, Shaqiri signed in the summer - Ibmula only played 12 games - Replacement N'zonzi has only played 12 times - Today, defense was make-shift - Shawcross clearly not fit - Cameron not first choice RB - Muniesa not first choice LB - Woolly is Woolly - Spurs probably the best team in the country with an eye on the title - etc, etc, etc.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Apr 18, 2016 23:21:22 GMT
SJW.
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