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Post by ohbottom on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:15 GMT
There's a shit load of shit I want to shit out at that shit, I'm going to sleep on it and have a major rant tomorrow. Then the shit is hitting the other shit. Worst I've felt since MH arrived,
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:26 GMT
The slow, sterile passing in attacking areas, lack of pace all over the pitch, has destroyed our potency at home, and destroyed the atmosphere as there is nothing for the ground to get involved with.
Any season where we are comfortable is a good season for me but all over the pitch I think we have problems ahead. I think we are going to suffer from the lack of quality signings the last couple of seasons before this one. We are lacking all over the pitch.
The game is about pace and workrate at the moment and we have a squad full of good technical players with no pace or stamina
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:36 GMT
And Les hasn't even taken his hands out of his pockets. Clueless View AttachmentI heard a few fans shouting that at him.
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:37 GMT
I can't help thinking that in reality Imbula is 10 years older than he says he is
Just look at the creases on the back of his head !!
He's either that or one lazy bastard as he never breaks into a sweat
Couldn't be arsed
He's had one good game since joining us ( the first match ) and has been crap ever since
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:40 GMT
You are just making things up nobody has said anything like that. "Because Stoke should be smashing this 2nd place Spurs team into next week. #smiley/winky Doesn't matter what the reasons are, some people just need some perspective" No we shouldn't but we should be giving them a fucking game. Absolutely embarrassing and should have been the same result as when Birmingham beat us 7-0 because we showed the same half arsed attitude. Woolscheid has proven beyond doubt that he's no where good enough if we want to be a force in this division. This team completely lacks any bollox. BM
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Post by cozmick on Apr 18, 2016 20:59:44 GMT
See you fellas Satdee, boy that's gonna be fucking fun, ooooowe.
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Apr 18, 2016 21:00:10 GMT
Never never tell me again that Shawcross should play for England. Imbula and Wolly terrible........
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 21:00:47 GMT
As the season is as good as over we may as well blood some academy player's. Any thoughts? Sent from my E6853 using proboards Was thinking the same Yes, no more of this sucking up to the players, they play shite they should be dropped, send them a message by playing some spotty teenager over them and then see if they manage to pull their finger out.
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Post by markfitdt on Apr 18, 2016 21:01:18 GMT
Ryan was FAR worse tonight imo. Was he fit ? is he better than Wolly ? should the manager have played Ryan again this season ?, should we have sold Huth ? who do we blame for the defensive abortion we have become ? I don't disagree with any of your points but my point still stands that Ryan had a shocker tonight, worse than Wolly imho (not saying he played well), but Bexhill is trying to point score as usual. Judge players on their performances not whether their face fits or not.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Apr 18, 2016 21:01:39 GMT
Hughes has done well overall but I have to say that there are some big questions he needs to answer over the summer. We're so unbalanced, so weak and easy to play against. So little attacking threat and I think we have to conclude that the big signings haven't really worked out either. He still has credit in the bank but there is big work to do in the summer. Agreed.
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Post by silverdollar on Apr 18, 2016 21:01:52 GMT
Putting all the pathetic wrist slashing feint hearted fans to one side in this thread who think they are Stoke fans I would like to read some sensible comments on the poor performance. Well first of all Tottenham showed quite clearly why they are a possible top of the league team. They have some outstanding individual talent with enormous energy playing with the confidence of an early goal that should have been made more difficult. From that moment Stoke battled hard in the first half but unlike Spurs too many of Stoke's talented offensive players went missing. Arnautovic and Shaqiri were so tame as was Imbula and this also pretty much negated the game of Bojan who was ineffective.Well done to Affelay who never gave up. Wollshied was clearly the better of our defenders but Spurs opened us up on too many occasions. Spurs could have led by three at half time. Stoke started better in the second half but they had to take far too many chances opening the play up. Shawcross is not clearly an England quality player on his performance tonight. He was continually caught ball watching and on too many occasions there was a gap right through the middle of our defence. When the second goal came Stoke fell apart. We looked very frail and our confidence and team work just disappeared. It is quite obvious to conclude that we are not as good as we think we are BUT to all you weak minded Stoke fans. We have acquired 47 points already this year with more games to play. We have beaten Chelsea, Man City ,Man United, and Liverpool away in a Cup Semi Final. We do have quality in the team but as yet we have no consistency. It really hurts when we lose like we did tonight but well done Spurs. Roll on next season where I have every confidence that we have tremendous potential to continue our progress but improvement in the defence is essential. Remember! You could be a Villa supporter!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 18, 2016 21:01:59 GMT
That was as bad as any thing under the capped one It really wasn't. oh yes it is - no agenda but that was embarrassing
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Post by tuum on Apr 18, 2016 21:02:32 GMT
Hughes has done well overall but I have to say that there are some big questions he needs to answer over the summer. We're so unbalanced, so weak and easy to play against. So little attacking threat and I think we have to conclude that the big signings haven't really worked out either. He still has credit in the bank but there is big work to do in the summer. Fully agree with this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 21:02:43 GMT
I can't help thinking that in reality Imbula is 10 years older than he says he is Just look at the creases on the back of his head !! He's either that or one lazy bastard as he never breaks into a sweat Couldn't be arsed He's had one good game since joining us ( the first match ) and has been crap ever since I'm beginning to see why Porto left him on a the bench all season
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Post by liathroid on Apr 18, 2016 21:02:51 GMT
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Post by redwhite on Apr 18, 2016 21:03:16 GMT
We were absolutely awful and they were absolutely brilliant. Simple as that.
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Post by kevkj on Apr 18, 2016 21:03:38 GMT
You would dread, how some (not all) but some of our players would fare in a relegation struggle Crossed my mind that.
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Post by Kewstokie on Apr 18, 2016 21:03:45 GMT
Can't think of one player who outshone his equivalent on the Spurs team. Their midfield killed ours, simply ran through it. Only Affellay came out with any credit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 21:04:24 GMT
Putting all the pathetic wrist slashing feint hearted fans to one side in this thread who think they are Stoke fans I would like to read some sensible comments on the poor performance. Well first of all Tottenham showed quite clearly why they are a possible top of the league team. They have some outstanding individual talent with enormous energy playing with the confidence of an early goal that should have been made more difficult. From that moment Stoke battled hard in the first half but unlike Spurs too many of Stoke's talented offensive players went missing. Arnautovic and Shaqiri were so tame as was Imbula and this also pretty much negated the game of Bojan who was ineffective.Well done to Affelay who never gave up. Wollshied was clearly the better of our defenders but Spurs opened us up on too many occasions. Spurs could have led by three at half time. Stoke started better in the second half but they had to take far too many chances opening the play up. Shawcross is not clearly an England quality player on his performance tonight. He was continually caught ball watching and on too many occasions there was a gap right through the middle of our defence. When the second goal came Stoke fell apart. We looked very frail and our confidence and team work just disappeared. It is quite obvious to conclude that we are not as good as we think we are BUT to all you weak minded Stoke fans. We have acquired 47 points already this year with more games to play. We have beaten Chelsea, Man City ,Man United, and Liverpool away in a Cup Semi Final. We do have quality in the team but as yet we have no consistency. It really hurts when we lose like we did tonight but well done Spurs. Roll on next season where I have every confidence that we have tremendous potential to continue our progress but improvement in the defence is essential. Remember! You could be a Villa supporter! So basically it's ok, we only beat teams who play shit anyway, we were obviously gonna get bartered by a team that does what they're paid to do
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Post by loosestools on Apr 18, 2016 21:04:31 GMT
That display was inept, what a shocking defence, so much space afforded. Utter utter crap. Relegation looms next season on the last two performances, and an on fire Man City coming up - great!
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Post by 99problems on Apr 18, 2016 21:04:53 GMT
Wow, I've not seen us taken apart like that in a fucking age...
On that showing England will have a strong Euro campaign.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 18, 2016 21:06:39 GMT
The question that I just cannot answer is how have we got to mid-April and the management team still don't have a clue as to their best attacking line up or the tactics they should employ??
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 18, 2016 21:06:47 GMT
To be fair to wd, 'wank' covers covers it pretty well, and not for the first home game this season.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Apr 18, 2016 21:06:59 GMT
We have been wank since the Southampton game....no more wins this season ..as for Arnie the sooner he goes the better for me... Your having a laugh pal!
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 18, 2016 21:07:10 GMT
Need half a new team in the summer. Indeed be nice if they gave a shit as well. Tonight's match must have coincided with an Edl meeting seeing as you didn't go.
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Post by liamo on Apr 18, 2016 21:07:39 GMT
Hughes system works when you've got all the right cogs in place, when one cog gets fucked and we can't replace like for like, shit shows like Liverpool and tonights game happen Arnie and Shaq need overlapping fullbacks which we have in Pieters and Johnson without overlapping fullbacks they get no space and no time on the ball so the system fails We need a quick striker up top which we have in Diouf, except the lad accidentally ran Mark Hughes' prize winning cat over or something and can't get a game A team can get by with a few issues but when you've got your first choice banksesque goalkeeper breaking bones on International duty, your big rock at the back out for large parts of the season with a crocked back and multiple recurring injuries throughout the whole squad and you play a system that requires round pegs in round holes you're going to end up completely fucked without like-for-like cover
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Post by MadridStokie on Apr 18, 2016 21:07:48 GMT
Exposed by a big lack of pace through the team - we got exposed for pace through midfield and down our flanks (in short, everywhere !). This needs addressing big time - as someone said above by our midfield and flanks being cut to shreds with their pace coming forward it made life very very difficult for Shawcross/Wolly and also Whelan in front of those 2. Muniesa not good enough as a LB nor Cameron as a RB against a team playing as well as they did down their flanks. I thought Affelay was our best player but defensively in terms of tracking back, he, Imbula and Whelan looked like they were running through treacle where the Spurs midfield just ghosted past them. And, yet again, we really struggle against a side that presses us not just high up the pitch but all over the pitch - they had the pace and desire to press us throughout the whole match.
In short, a big well done to Spurs, having watched them a few times they are surely playing the best football in the league but that might not be enough for the title for them. I would like to see them do it - I have something against a team that has gone into administration (Leicester) and left lots of people out of pocket (and probably HMRC too i.e. we have paid for them) who then go on to win the league.
We need to regroup, accept we were beaten by an excellent performance from an excellent team gelling so well at the moment and work out our weaknesses. We are also clearly impacted by our inability to field the same starting 11 for consecutive matches - something both Spurs and Leicester have been able to do - and it shows. Let´s hope we can battle back to not let the season completely peter out but we need to focus on sorting out a few key issues in the summer.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2016 21:08:02 GMT
Mug who looks the Mug now, would you have played Ryan again this season go on honest opinion have you got the balls to call the manager out on this one ? Not prepared to say Hughes out then? Getting close, should he have played Ryan again this season ?
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 18, 2016 21:09:10 GMT
You expected anything less? Out of form, fitness and ideas vs a team steamrolling everyone while chasing the title? I expected and insist on a lot more.That was Fuckin abject.Seeing Niedzwiecki grinning and laughing with the Spurs coaching staff after the game didn't help my mood either.
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Post by that's our Ric on Apr 18, 2016 21:10:24 GMT
Can we please just end the season here ?? Embarrassingly bad, and ruining all the good things that have happened. God help us at Man City with this defence
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