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Post by nott1 on Apr 4, 2016 15:08:51 GMT
Instead of instantly busting a gut to get goal-side, as any defender surely should, his first instinct was to wave his arms in the air and look for someone else to blame for his misplaced pass. All made up bollocks. No wonder bayern likes it. He put his arm up to appeal for handball, waved it in annoyance of not getting the decision and then ran back to his position. I did the same in the stand to be fair..... Practising your jazz hands?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 4, 2016 15:09:54 GMT
This story can be filed with his top 10 influential fans piece. In the cabinet marked 'rancid dog shit'
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Post by Davef on Apr 4, 2016 15:15:09 GMT
He didn't need to bust a gut to get back in position. The fact that he WAS back in position by the time Swansea got anywhere near our penalty is the main thing and that's what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 15:17:39 GMT
He put his arm up to appeal for handball, waved it in annoyance of not getting the decision and then ran back to his position. I did the same in the stand to be fair..... Practising your jazz hands? I starred in the 1991 Queens Theatre Burslem production of Kiss Me Kate, my jazz hands need no practice.......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2016 15:20:10 GMT
He didn't need to bust a gut to get back in position. The fact that he WAS back in position by the time Swansea got anywhere near our penalty is the main thing and that's what happened. And then did a half Gary Cahill turning his back on the ball.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 4, 2016 15:20:40 GMT
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Post by Northy on Apr 4, 2016 15:27:13 GMT
So the 3 forward players not busting a gut to give him an option from the move out of defence don't get any criticism because he didn't bust a get to get back in position (although he was in place by the time Swansea got there) if golden boy Arnie would have ran to the left and forwards at an angle the break was on.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 4, 2016 15:31:14 GMT
So the 3 forward players not busting a gut to give him an option from the move out of defence don't get any criticism because he didn't bust a get to get back in position (although he was in place by the time Swansea got there) if golden boy Arnie would have ran to the left and forwards at an angle the break was on. He should have passed it to one of ours not one of theirs having ventured so far.
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Post by Northy on Apr 4, 2016 15:42:33 GMT
So the 3 forward players not busting a gut to give him an option from the move out of defence don't get any criticism because he didn't bust a get to get back in position (although he was in place by the time Swansea got there) if golden boy Arnie would have ran to the left and forwards at an angle the break was on. He should have passed it to one of ours not one of theirs having ventured so far. yes he should, he tried but somebody's arm got in the way, right in front of the referee aswell, shall we go through every misplaced pass throughout the game? or shall we also have a go at geoff Cameron for being 5 yards too deep off his man and not reacting quick enough to close him down before he got the shot away to score?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 4, 2016 15:49:25 GMT
I can't be bothered to trawl through this thread or others, and I'm sure someone has brought it up, but how Wolly's 'error' can be picked on in this way when Erik's non-tackle on Routledge that led to the first goal isn't (or as much) beats me (Erik almost walked back). However, in the same way, there are others who could have prevented the goal and plenty of time that elapsed in the passage of play. I think Whelan was feeling the effects of his injury and probably should have got tighter but we gave him too much time to turn and we all know he can strike a ball.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 4, 2016 22:29:16 GMT
I can't be bothered to trawl through this thread or others, and I'm sure someone has brought it up, but how Wolly's 'error' can be picked on in this way when Erik's non-tackle on Routledge that led to the first goal isn't (or as much) beats me (Erik almost walked back). However, in the same way, there are others who could have prevented the goal and plenty of time that elapsed in the passage of play. I think Whelan was feeling the effects of his injury and probably should have got tighter but we gave him too much time to turn and we all know he can strike a ball. Their first goal was a very good one in my opinion. Great bit of trickery and quick feet on half way line then good pace to accelerate away from retreating defenders. Routledge had his head up, was aware of what was around him, fed Sigurdsson who took two excellent touches and produced an excellent finish. Yes Pieters got beat but it is rare he gets done 1 v 1. Shit happens. We gifted them the second but even then there was a handball, an offside and a deflection. If I was going to criticise Wolschied, I'd choose to criticise his "back turning" which resulted in the deflection rather than the misplaced pass.
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 5, 2016 1:56:19 GMT
Its incredible how extreme the opinions become on here, not sure why I bothered reading this whole thread as it's just the same old crap back and forth. Surely most can agree Wooly has improved immensely since he arrived, and has actually proved alot of us wrong, as I was not convinced AT ALL at first, nor was my Dad who NEVER moans about players. However he has improved SO MUCH and is a Stoke player. Let's get behind him! Robert Huth is about to win the league with Leicester instead of us. It fucking sucks but that's the reality. Its literally pointless some of the arguments I've just read. Saying that, I think the centre half positions at Stoke are really scrutinised by Stoke fans, as we have had Huth and Ryan and Faye as benchmarks in this division, which is a pretty high bar, but Wooly has different qualities and will prove alot of people wrong on here I think going forward next season. Can't we just all get along
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Post by KevinWhimper on Apr 5, 2016 10:05:45 GMT
I can't be bothered to trawl through this thread or others, and I'm sure someone has brought it up, but how Wolly's 'error' can be picked on in this way when Erik's non-tackle on Routledge that led to the first goal isn't (or as much) beats me (Erik almost walked back). However, in the same way, there are others who could have prevented the goal and plenty of time that elapsed in the passage of play. I think Whelan was feeling the effects of his injury and probably should have got tighter but we gave him too much time to turn and we all know he can strike a ball. Basically mate in summary, it's 6 pages of bayern being an argumentative bell end for a change.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 10:18:20 GMT
I can't be bothered to trawl through this thread or others, and I'm sure someone has brought it up, but how Wolly's 'error' can be picked on in this way when Erik's non-tackle on Routledge that led to the first goal isn't (or as much) beats me (Erik almost walked back). However, in the same way, there are others who could have prevented the goal and plenty of time that elapsed in the passage of play. I think Whelan was feeling the effects of his injury and probably should have got tighter but we gave him too much time to turn and we all know he can strike a ball. Basically mate in summary, it's 6 pages of bayern being an argumentative bell end for a change. Haha or just saying what I think and replying to people. The independent sources then agreeing. Agenda.
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Post by datguy on Apr 5, 2016 10:32:18 GMT
According to Squawka, he has made ONE mistake that led to a goal this season.
Yep, he must be shite.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 10:37:55 GMT
According to Squawka, he has made ONE mistake that led to a goal this season. Yep, he must be shite. Bayern's bible is Squawka. Put's him in a pickle that.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:00:24 GMT
The mistakes stat is farcical. It doesn't count fouls that lead to a penalty.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 5, 2016 11:01:21 GMT
Let's just look at our clean sheet record and conclude we need to be a lot better defensively than we have been. When teams score good goals against you there's not a great deal you can do but the sloppy bullocks we've been letting in leads me to conclude that no one has been defending to a 'world class" level or any other such bollocks.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:05:32 GMT
Let's just look at our clean sheet record and conclude we need to be a lot better defensively than we have been. When teams score good goals against you there's not a great deal you can do but the sloppy bullocks we've been letting in leads me to conclude that no one has been defending to a 'world class" level or any other such bollocks. As I've said in another thread if we swapped both our full backs and one centre back I wouldn't be arsed in the slightest.
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Post by Davef on Apr 5, 2016 11:07:38 GMT
Let's just look at our clean sheet record and conclude we need to be a lot better defensively than we have been. When teams score good goals against you there's not a great deal you can do but the sloppy bullocks we've been letting in leads me to conclude that no one has been defending to a 'world class" level or any other such bollocks. As I've said in another thread if we swapped both our full backs and one centre back I wouldn't be arsed in the slightest. Until they didn't turn out to be on the same level as Maldini, Cafu and Beckenbauer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:10:22 GMT
As I've said in another thread if we swapped both our full backs and one centre back I wouldn't be arsed in the slightest. Until they didn't turn out to be on the same level as Maldini, Cafu and Beckenbauer. The basic ability to stay switched on for 90 minutes will do. And from the full backs to attack and defend and to know when to do which. That'd do me.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Apr 5, 2016 11:20:34 GMT
Until they didn't turn out to be on the same level as Maldini, Cafu and Beckenbauer. The basic ability to stay switched on for 90 minutes will do. And from the full backs to attack and defend and to know when to do which. That'd do me. Dunna worry Bayern Wilson will be back soon :-)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:28:41 GMT
The basic ability to stay switched on for 90 minutes will do. And from the full backs to attack and defend and to know when to do which. That'd do me. Dunna worry Bayern Wilson will be back soon :-) He's got to be sold this summer surely?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Apr 5, 2016 11:31:55 GMT
Dunna worry Bayern Wilson will be back soon :-) He's got to be sold this summer surely? I would have thought so mate and I suppose the best left back in the country could find himself reunited with the capped one.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 5, 2016 11:33:24 GMT
I know that if Wilson had been involved in a couple of incidents a certain other defender has been in recent weeks, words like 'immense' would not have been thrown his way!
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Post by Davef on Apr 5, 2016 11:33:45 GMT
The mistakes stat is farcical. It doesn't count fouls that lead to a penalty. Wollscheid hasn't committed a foul that's led to a penalty this season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:38:59 GMT
He's got to be sold this summer surely? I would have thought so mate and I suppose the best left back in the country could find himself reunited with the capped one. Presuming he's still in a job.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 11:42:29 GMT
The mistakes stat is farcical. It doesn't count fouls that lead to a penalty. Wollscheid hasn't committed a foul that's led to a penalty this season. I never said he had. That's just an example how farcical it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 11:44:18 GMT
The mistakes stat is farcical. It doesn't count fouls that lead to a penalty. Wollscheid hasn't committed a foul that's led to a penalty this season. bayern counts the one at Southampton that the ref didn't give, he spent a week analysing it whilst most of us were just celebrating a superb away win and clean sheet.....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 5, 2016 11:48:24 GMT
Wollscheid hasn't committed a foul that's led to a penalty this season. bayern counts the one at Southampton that the ref didn't give, he spent a week analysing it whilst most of us were just celebrating a superb away win and clean sheet..... "Wollscheid" and "Southampton", bring back some rather more recent painful memories!
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